ps2 info anyone?

[mitchel]

this is my first post, hi everyone
i have to wait for the ps2 version cause my comp inst good enough to run it. i no it comes out in march but i was wandering if anyone has any info about it? like if the graphics are going to be worse then pc or if it is goin to be very laggy, cause other games are pretty laggy(sports games mainly) and its seems like ffxi would have more going on at one time. any info would be great

oh and can u go on the internet with ps2?
like serf the web and ssuch?

thanks in advance for any help ^_^

[Zaleshea]

PS2's processor is far better than any computer on the market, or so they say. Especially if the FFXI discs are produced in DVD format for the PS2's DVD drive. I can imagine it will display the game pretty well, since there's no way to put in a graphic card. Yes unlike the GC, you can surf the internet with the PS2.

I. . . .

Can imagine it may be VERY laggy at first when the PS2 version is released, as everyone who has one will be pilling up on the servers at once. But it should die down after a couple of days.

[mitchel]

hmm so how would i go about gettin on the internet with ps2?(surfing not games)
i put the system disk thingy in and there was no options about going on it, if anyone knows please tell ^_~

[Malachi_Gage]

i think you have to wait for the HDD (Hard Disk Drive) to come out to do the internet stuff

btw...this internet surfing stuff is new to me, i've never heard this before, so my HDD comment above is a TOTAL GUESS

[mitchel]

hmmmm
i searched a little bit and from what i read i think u need some kind of speacial disk called NAD or something like that which gets u on
im not reallly sure tho i was pretty confused...
if anyone knows help would be greaaaatly appreciated

[Centurion]

I was a Beta Tester for the PS2 version, and my comments are based on that experience.
I played the game on both Broadband, DSL, and narrowband, 56k, and I experienced good play on both connections. It is my understanding that the game is capped for a 56k connection, but I do not know that for sure.
To play FFXI you will need to buy the Hard Disk Drive. FFXI comes preinstalled on the HDD.
While there may be a server or two added when FFXI comes out in the NA region, NA PS2 players will be playing on the same servers as the PS2 and PC players from Japan as well as the NA PC players who have been able to play the game since Oct. The most laggy expreriences I had during play were usually at the Auction Houses as many people can be found there. Otherwise gameplay was relatively smooth.
I had a chance to see FFXI on the PC and I have to admit the graphics are a bit more crisp. That being said I found the quality of the graphics to be better than average, but not great. If you have played EQoA I can offer the following comparison- EQoAs graphics are crisp but sterile, while FFXIs graphics are a bit grainy, the overall presentation is more organic.
As far as being able to browse the Internet with your PS2, I dont think this is something you will able to do right out of the box. But I suspect someone will come out with a Browser application at some point.

Thats about all I can think of for now.


Hope that helps

[Sadeira]

you haven't seen lag till you go to the ah in lower jeuno

there are usually 100 or so people gathered in front of the ah at any one time

thankfully, there's an option in the config menu that allows you to set the number of models that will load in an area :)i'm pretty sure the same option will be in the ps2 version

but the number of models isn't really an issue until you hit jeuno

we'll see how many people will be there once all the ps2 players hit level 20 and decide that it's time to go to jeuno level land (qufim)

[avi]

From what I know the graphics arn't gonna be as good because its the graphics card that really matters and the PS2 Graphics card is much more outdated then a GE Force 4 or ATI 9600.

The truth The control is MUCH more natural then the PC version, mostly because of the Controler. FFXI was made for PS2 in the first place.

As it looks it won't be as buggy(if there are any bugs left) as the PC version, could be(as said most are gone).

The PS2 version is being shipped on MARCH 23rd. thats what all the sites and SQUARE-ENIX say.

I think that the community will be just as good if not better on the PS2 realese. I say this because, you add the PS people who are mostly avid FF players(becaue they care more about thier PS2 insted of their PC). Now with the wave of PS2 gamers, the NA Community will grow more.

Basicly, expect a great atmosphere when you start playing.

See you then, Imwaiting too...:thumbsup:

[Sadeira]

i actually like using the keyboard in ffxi

i can multi task practically with the keyboard. usually when i'm riding a chocobo, i browse my menus for whatever reason. i don't think a controller can do this

but the most important thing about a keyboard is MACROS
macros are the lifeblood of a mage and using the menus is rather cumbersome.

maybe ffxi was made for a controller, but i still prefer the keyboard :)

[Teknoman]

Also I played FFXI beta test on PS2 and noticed that PS2 doesnt get much slowdown at all, even in weather conditions, but both have thier advantages. Look for FFXI preinstalled on the PS2 HDD in march:biggrin:

[Bishop]

Originally posted by Zaleshea
PS2's processor is far better than any computer on the market, or so they say.

Just to straigthen facts up, it isn't the fastest proccessor on the market. Unlike a real comp, it's proccessor doesn't need to handle an os and all that stuff, so having some 3.2ghz proccessor would be a waste on a ps2. If you look at your manual, it should tell you what frequency the proccessor in your ps2 runs at.

[avi]

I didn't say I don't use a keyboard but you can bring menues up with one click of a button. but I muct say, keyboard shortcuts are REALLY useful.

[Thoronas]

Menu control and macro control is alot faster with a keyboard. However movement is far and away better on the controller. The analog sticks rock.

[Susano]

I too was in the beta testing phase and have to say, the PS2 handled the game well.

It looked very nice, resolution was a little low, so menu's crowded the screen a bit, but here are some screenshots made by someone who plays on the ps2 in the high end game:

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31963

As you can see, the game still looks very nice.

[Grand Lethal]

Ok, PS2 beta tester here:

Yes it does look like March 23 for the shipping day. However us Beta testers are supposed to get it a week before retail release (now living in Canada, I'm hold my breath for 2 weeks AFTER retail release).

The game plays very well on the PS2, although I hate that you can't adjust resolution or upgrade the graphics card. however I did like the transitions. load times were fast, and I don't know if the DVD format helps at all because the game is Downloaded entirely to the HDD, you can run FFXI without a DVD/CD in the drive.

PS2 people can use a keyboard plugged into the USB port of your PS2. I used a Logitech multimedia keyboard and it worked smashingley without having to install drivers or anything :)
Anyone that gets the PS2 version and doesn't have a keyboard, you should REALLY buy one. you can get a cheap on for like 15US or 25-30 Canadian, trust me playing without it is like fishing without drinking beer.

I'm still unsure of the HDD content, but it sounds like they are pre-installing an internet browser, Some sort of file making system, and a music player for sure. It will be nice to see it function more like an XBOX in that respect. gone are the days of listening to bad music when you can put your own tunes into the game instead! (That being said, the FFXI music is tremendous! I have the 2 disk collection on my computer and listen to it regualarily to take me back into the game while I wait for its PS2 release).

Lastly for anyone interested, I'll be with my group the WLA on the Midgardsormr server. If anyone ends up there or needs a WP there, feel free to PM me and I'll get my LS to help you out. You'll see me as my namesake here as long as it isn't take yet on the server. Happy gaming and I'll see a bunch of you in a little over a month and a half!

[aleriani.DRG.]

Originally posted by Sadeira
i actually like using the keyboard in ffxi

i can multi task practically with the keyboard. usually when i'm riding a chocobo, i browse my menus for whatever reason. i don't think a controller can do this

but the most important thing about a keyboard is MACROS
macros are the lifeblood of a mage and using the menus is rather cumbersome.

maybe ffxi was made for a controller, but i still prefer the keyboard :)

you can do both these things with the controller. in fact, i like using the controller more than i like using the keyboard. i swear by WASD, but the controller wins this round.

[Grand Lethal]

yeah you can access macros much easier with the controller actually. just typing things is much easier with the keyboard. Its much faster communicating with people using the keyboard, but thats about it.

[Bronx]

Ha Ha, I do the same thing about the music Grand. I also have the music on my computer :)

Beta tester here again. I NEVER got any lag untill the end-of-beta event. There were like 200+ ppl standing at the AH in San at the start. It was pretty laggy, but it was very minimal. It didnt bother me at all considering that the lag I would get in EQOA was just plain horrible. I have 56K. Controller kicks! I love this game!

[Mitch]

The PS2 version looks great, not quite as crisp as a high end pc. I never experienced any lag in the ps2 beta except when more than 20 people were standing close together, like was mentioned about jeuno or whenever a cool looking GM appeared. I always loaded zones quicker than fellow party members who had computers, and of course the ps2 controller is way better than any pc gamepad. Don't forget the lazyboy factor either, its nice to kickback with keyboard and controller and play on a 27" sony(thats what i have anyway), beats the crap out of even a 19" computer monitor. I have a radeon 8500 128mb and that doesnt exactly make for silky smooth framerate, the ps2 version was alot more consistent in terms of frame rate than my pc setup, 1800 athlon xp, 512 mb ram.

If you compare the two versions, naturally the ps2 has a shorter draw distance because of ram limitations, but its not pop in directly in front of you or anything like that. I have the PC version now, but when the game ships I will definitely play the ps2 probably exclusively.

You wont be disappointed with the ps2 version once you start playing.

See you in a month and a half :biggrin:

Mitch

[ChewyDogg]

I am chomping at the bit for the day I finally get to return to Vana'diel! I was completly addicted to the beta (just ask my wife). I never had any serious problems with lag either until the end of beta event and then it became unplayable. I spent countless nights playing until 4-5 am. Oh man I can't wait much longer!!:spin:

[Uchiha Sasuke]

Originally posted by Mitch
The PS2 version looks great, not quite as crisp as a high end pc. I never experienced any lag in the ps2 beta except when more than 20 people were standing close together, like was mentioned about jeuno or whenever a cool looking GM appeared. I always loaded zones quicker than fellow party members who had computers, and of course the ps2 controller is way better than any pc gamepad. Don't forget the lazyboy factor either, its nice to kickback with keyboard and controller and play on a 27" sony(thats what i have anyway), beats the crap out of even a 19" computer monitor. I have a radeon 8500 128mb and that doesnt exactly make for silky smooth framerate, the ps2 version was alot more consistent in terms of frame rate than my pc setup, 1800 athlon xp, 512 mb ram.

If you compare the two versions, naturally the ps2 has a shorter draw distance because of ram limitations, but its not pop in directly in front of you or anything like that. I have the PC version now, but when the game ships I will definitely play the ps2 probably exclusively.

You wont be disappointed with the ps2 version once you start playing.

See you in a month and a half :biggrin:

Mitch

I can do the same thing with my big screen sony, and my computer. However a monitor is way better than a TV will ever be. The resoloutions of a TV hit 800x600, while right now on my monitor im using 1600x1200. Not only that monitors are by far more crisp looking. If i could play PS2 games on my monitor i would at a drop of a hat.



PS2's processor is far better than any computer on the market, or so they say.

Now this is seriously funny, why would you even think that if the PS2 was realeased how long ago? Anyways, all the PS2 is, is a giant Video card. Its GPU i think was somewhere between 300-400 mhz, which is nowhere near as fast as my 2800+. The fact that the PS2 doesnt have background applications running, means that it can focus just on games, thats all.

The only plus side i see to using a PS2 is no Tech problems pretty much.

[mitchel]

wow thanks for all that info
man that makes me wanna play even more i thought it would be laggy as hell like nba 2004, that game lags aaaalotttt online
hmm i wanna be in servers with other ps2 users just cause it makes me feel like im with my kind haha
anyways thanks again guys

[hogarth]

i too am gettin the ps2 version :) i heard you can take screen shots on the ps2 but what can i do with them then any idea how they would be transfered to a pc etc ?

[Khaelyn]

You can email the screenshots to yourself (limit is 5 per email) or with the new HDD software, there may be an easier way. I would hope so.

[hogarth]

thanks as im running a small site and im gonna be running a journal there which will need my pics ;)

[Strail]

Alright guys,

I think I have some info and i def. have some questions. First of all I havent played the game, I'm waiting for the PS2. If said user says a 128 meg ATI card doesnt make the game run smooth on PC i don't know what can.

About PS2 internet: In the manual of the network adapter it says it is not possible to brows the internet at this time. I'm guessing this will change to some degree with the release of the hard drive. Also, the PS2 processer is by far one of the weakest available in any gaming hardware, (keep in mind, the PS2 is my favorite system.) It clocks in at a whopping 299 mhz. My pc is 1.9 gigahertz (1900 mhz), and most decent ones now are 2.5 to 3 gigahertz. But like someone said before, a PC has to run a thousand things at once so that 299 prolly equals 1.5 to 2 gigahertz in PC terms (I find graphics between my PC and PS2 pretty even for most comparable games).

Okay guys I have a couple questions about the game if anyone knows. I know you can use a keyboard, you basically have to if you want to talk to anyone. Does anyone know if you can use a usb mouse with the PS2? I tried Everquest, which by the way reading a brochure for FFXI is more fun than playin EQOA in my opinion, and much to my dismay you couldn't use a mouse and keyboard combo, you had to use controller and keyboard or just keyboard. I'm hoping, since FFXI is designed for the PC as well, that you can use the mouse/keyboard combo.

Also, regarding the HDD for PS2, does anyone know if this will function as a infinite memory card for all games as well (a.k.a. Xbox)? I was wondering about it because Xbox games were designed of the bat to save on the HD, but PS2 games are made to save on memory cards.

[hogarth]

some hdd info here

http://www.playstation-gamers.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=847fb540c581bed8ad99ba12eb2742f0 :)

Regarding the mouse i think any usb mouse should work fine with the ps2 and im sure i have seen keyboard and mouse combo's possibly the offical sony keyboard and mouse i will try get you a link later for them.

[Khaelyn]

From Beta testing I can tell you that any standard USB mouse will work on your PS2... but why? You have the controller and the keyboard.

[Grand Lethal]

*nods*
tried mouse for a short time. its completely useless if you have the controller.

This is my final comment on the matter. Get the game... Ps2, PC, doesn't matter. Get it, play it, love it. I'll see you all in a little over a month.

[Uchiha Sasuke]

Originally posted by Strail
Alright guys,

I think I have some info and i def. have some questions. First of all I havent played the game, I'm waiting for the PS2. If said user says a 128 meg ATI card doesnt make the game run smooth on PC i don't know what can.

About PS2 internet: In the manual of the network adapter it says it is not possible to brows the internet at this time. I'm guessing this will change to some degree with the release of the hard drive. Also, the PS2 processer is by far one of the weakest available in any gaming hardware, (keep in mind, the PS2 is my favorite system.) It clocks in at a whopping 299 mhz. My pc is 1.9 gigahertz (1900 mhz), and most decent ones now are 2.5 to 3 gigahertz. But like someone said before, a PC has to run a thousand things at once so that 299 prolly equals 1.5 to 2 gigahertz in PC terms (I find graphics between my PC and PS2 pretty even for most comparable games).

Okay guys I have a couple questions about the game if anyone knows. I know you can use a keyboard, you basically have to if you want to talk to anyone. Does anyone know if you can use a usb mouse with the PS2? I tried Everquest, which by the way reading a brochure for FFXI is more fun than playin EQOA in my opinion, and much to my dismay you couldn't use a mouse and keyboard combo, you had to use controller and keyboard or just keyboard. I'm hoping, since FFXI is designed for the PC as well, that you can use the mouse/keyboard combo.

Also, regarding the HDD for PS2, does anyone know if this will function as a infinite memory card for all games as well (a.k.a. Xbox)? I was wondering about it because Xbox games were designed of the bat to save on the HD, but PS2 games are made to save on memory cards.


299mhz, i was close :cool:. Also you couldnt really say it adds up to a 1.5mhz, it gets messy because theres a lot more factors involved. For example the PS2 ONLY runs in low res, because its made to run on TVs of course. Running low res also takes a LOT of pressure off the system.

You really REALLY want to stick with controller/keyboard, this game was made for a controller. I use a PC, and i switched to a controller, its faster, easier, and all around better. :biggrin:

[Strail]

Cool thanks guys I didn't realize the game was designed so well for a controller. I was thinking of games like Asheron's Call and Dark Age of Camelot and thinking how much it would suck to play them without a mouse.