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Khain
01-16-2004, 12:39 PM
I just wanted to know how people set their whitemage blackmage sub macros. I am having trouble deciding how to set my macros and i keep changing them all the time

METDeath
01-16-2004, 08:30 PM
my whm is at 17 so i have a set of cure1's for the pt and cure2's for the pt, i have a /target <bt> macro, cure <t>/cure2 <t> macros, a slow macro, an hp/mp macro... a prot/shell macro is also a must (after i go pick up shellra from jeuno anyway) and three other macros... i think bind is one (don't use it much) and i usually make an adjusted bar elementa/status macro

goldberry
01-17-2004, 12:31 AM
well this is what i do!

i basically have 4 full rows of macros

1 for cures and job abilities

1 for buffs pro/shellra + bar spells

1 for whm debuffs (dia,banishga, paralyze, slow)

1 for all the blm spells i have so far (stone, water, bio, blaze spikes, bind, blind etc)

i put the whm debuffs seperate to the blm debuffs because i thought it may get confusing when im playing the blm as main, but if anybody has a better stratergy then i would love to hear it too!

hope this helps you

and i can understand why you keep changing them too, it takes a while to get a set up you are comfortable with and can work with, i changed mine because straight underneath cure i had /wave so every now and then i would wave at someone instead of curing them!! lol (so i chucked all those macros and put them much further down).

as you gain more spells you will always be messing with your macros

ZenXIII
01-17-2004, 08:39 AM
Interesting...
I get by with just one "set" of macros...
I put all of my party status enhancing/curing on the "alt" line, and all of the debuffs, etc. on the "ctrl" line.
Basically, my setup is like this:
Line 1:

Cure1 <st> | Cure2 <st> | Protectra/Shellra | Curaga | Divine Seal | Benediction | Poisona | Barfira (for goblins)

And that is it for right now (all other spells (e.g. single person protect/shell) I just get through menus, since they aren't normally crucial to get off NOW! :)
My second line:

Status (my MP) | Slow | Paralyze | Dia | Blind | Silence

And i think that is it for that line..can't remember exactly. BTW, i use <bt> for all of the enfeebles, a lot easier to handle in a situation than manually targeting the mob, imo.

Basically, i am of the opinion that you don't need to have a seperate button for each cure person on your list...the refresh time on cure is long enough that using <st> will be plenty of time to get off the spell before timer is elapsed.

Also, think about getting a gamepad...it makes this game soooooo much more enjoyable. I recommend the PS2 controller (you can get the ps2 to usb converter at radio shack for $10) as it was recommended to me, and i love it. Only thing is...rumble causes some folks to crash, so if you have problems after installing controller, that is probably your problem!

goldberry
01-17-2004, 10:18 AM
thanks for that info i had no idea about the <bt> i shall put that in straight away, and sometimes i use my menu's but i do like to have most things macroed too as when im solo i use menus but when i'm in pt i use macros

goldberry
01-17-2004, 04:02 PM
does anyone know if you have to put a /wait 2 between all /ja and /ma macros? i tried to fire off divine seal and curaga but it said command error

can anyone help?

ZenXIII
01-18-2004, 09:34 AM
The "wait" issue.
Ya, you need to have a wait in between skills and such on your macros.
This is because the macro just fires off line after line in quick succession.
Basically, running a macro is like quickly typing in each line and hitting enter immediately.
So if you have something like:
/ja "Divine Seal" <me>
/ma "Cure II" <st>

The computer is just going to quickly run both of those commands...the problem is, it tries to run the second line before your divine seal is finished casting.
So, yes, you need to put in a wait timer for the amount of time that it takes to use your ja.
I'm not sure the exact wait on that one though. ^^

Khain
01-18-2004, 06:22 PM
thanks for all the helpful info :)

nishiishii
01-19-2004, 04:25 PM
These are my current macros. I know it is a lot, but to help clear that up I use the Belkin N52 gamepad. If you notice there are five keys on each row, two rows = 10. So it helps break the macros in chunks. This is for my WHM 23 BLM 20 btw. (This is for when my BLM reached 24)

http://images.belkin.com/F8GFPC100/FUL1_F8GFPC100.jpg

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Macro Set #1
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ctrl1> /ma "Cure II" <p1>
ctrl2> /ma "Cure II" <p2>
ctrl3> /ma "Cure II" <p3>
ctrl4> /ma "Cure II" <p4>
ctrl5> /ma "Cure II" <p5>

ctrl6> /ma "Cure III" <p1>
ctrl7> /ma "Cure III" <p2>
ctrl8> /ma "Cure III" <p3>
ctrl9> /ma "Cure III" <p4>
ctrl0> /ma "Cure III" <p5>

alt1> /ma "Regen" <stpc>
alt2> Curaga + Divine Seal
alt3> Benediction
alt4> /ma "Cure" <t>
alt5> /ma "Cure II" <t>

alt6> /ma "Dia" <bt>
alt7> /ma "Slow" <bt>
alt8> /ma "Paralyze" <bt>
alt9> /ma "Silence" <bt>
alt0> /ma "Banish" <bt>


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Macro Set #2
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ctrl1> Protectra + Shellra Combo
ctrl2> /ma "Poisona" <stpc>
ctrl3> /ma "Blindna" <stpc>
ctrl4> /ma "Silena" <stpc>
ctrl5> /ma "Blink" <stpc>

ctrl6> /ma "Sneak" <t>
ctrl7> /ma "Invisible" <t>
ctrl8> /ma "Deodorize" <t>
ctrl9>
ctrl0>


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Macro Set #4
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ctrl1> /ma "Thunder" <bt>
ctrl2> /ma "Blizzard" <bt>
ctrl3> /ma "Fire" <bt>
ctrl4> /ma "Aero" <bt>
ctrl5> /ma "Drain" <bt>

ctrl6> ES + Thunder
ctrl7> ES + Blizzard
ctrl8> ES + Fire
ctrl9> ES + Bind
ctrl0> /ja "Mana Font" <p0>

alt1> /ma "Blind" <bt>
alt2> /ma "Bio" <bt>
alt3> /ma "Shock" <bt>
alt4> /ma "Rasp" <bt>
alt5> /ma "Shock" <bt>

alt6> /ma "Frost" <bt>
alt7> /ma "Sleep" <t>
alt8> /ma "Choke" <bt>
alt9> /ma "Burn" <bt>
alt0> /ja "Elemental Seal" <p0>

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Macro Set #5
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ctrl1> /ma "Cure" <stpc>
ctrl2> /ma "Cure II" <stpc>
ctrl3> /ma "Protectra" <p0>
ctrl4> /ma "Ice Spikes" <p0>
ctrl5> /ma "Warp" <p0>

ctrl6> /ma "Bind" <t>
ctrl7> /ma "Aeroga" <bt>
ctrl8> /ma "Waterga" <bt>
ctrl9> /ma "Stonega" <bt>
ctrl0>

Dragoon_K
01-22-2004, 10:10 AM
Hey guys, I just made a whitemage character, I have played as one to sub for my warrior with my now Dragoon character, but I really didn't pt with my white mage. I have a basic cure macro right now, but I have to not be engaged in battle to use it, I press f1-f6 to get the desired party member and then ctrl 1. Is there a better way to do this or is that the preffered way, I just want to be quick and good, and make sure I have the best way.

ZenXIII
01-22-2004, 02:23 PM
Sounds like your cure macro is:
/ma "Cure" <t>

...
Change it to this
/ma "Cure" <st>

This way you pick your target *after* you click the macro .. you can use the f keys to do that.
IIRC, you can also use <stpc> or something (not sure if that is the exact command, i just use <st>) to make sure you pick an ally, and not an enemy. However, if you are using the f keys this isn't an issue.

Dragoon_K
01-23-2004, 08:10 AM
ohhh, thank you very much ZenXIII, that is extreamly helpfull, I will make the changes now!

Calianeri
01-23-2004, 11:31 AM
ZenXIII has a good point: Healing/enhancing macros using <t> aren't a good idea. In fact, if you ever engage in battle, they are flat out useless. So I'd also suggest using <stpc> with the Function keys. <st> will work too, but I think that <st> will default to the battle target, whereas <stpc> will default to either you or a party member. (Sorry, I'm not 100% sure on the details, I've gotten so used to just pressing macro-functionkey-enter I never even look anymore! :o )

Also, I personally don't like switching macro sets during battle. I also really liked having individual party member macros up until the late 30s, so my set looked like this:

Ctrl: Cure p0 - p1 - p2 - p3 - p4 - p5 - Dia <bt> - Paralyze <bt> - Slow <bt> - MP Report

Alt: Cure II p0 - p1 - p2 - p3 - p4 - p5 - Regen <stpc> - Cure III <stpc> - Divine Seal <stpc> - /p Danger! <call2>

Other spells I cast manually (Protectra and Shellra, -nas, Banish, etc). For Benediction I still use the Ctrl-J menu. All of the non-Cure I and II spell macros have a /party chat line that uses the tab-translator to announce the spell name and the target.

But I've since changed my setup to have Cure I - IV targeted with <stpc>, freeing up spaces for Regen II, Sneak, Invis, Haste, and others.

I don't macro any black magic spells when playing WHM. But when leveling BLM, I have a set of macros much like my earlier-level WHM set, but replacing Slow with Blind, DS with ES, and a couple other changes. I don't macro the elemental spells. Choosing manually forces me to slow down my casting and wait for bursts.

Dragoon_K
01-24-2004, 04:00 AM
hey another quick question for you. When using <stpc> or <st> how do you tell the party who you are healing, I've tried to play with it breifly and couldn't figure it out. So I can heal but they'll have to look to see who's getting healed.

Khain
01-24-2004, 08:17 AM
my macros go
/ma "Cure" <st>
/party Casting Cure on <t>

Since you already have selected the target it will show there name in the <t> spot so it will look like

Casting Cure on DragoonK

Calianeri
01-24-2004, 10:12 AM
Actually, don't use <t> to display the selected target. It usually won't work. Instead use <lastst>.

So the macro would be:

/ma "Cure II" <stpc>
/party {Cure} II --> <lastst>

That will work in every situation.

Also, there was another thread recently about putting chat lines in Cure macros. It's generally not a good idea, because Cure is cast so often. It just ends up being very spammy and it's redundant with the yellow casting line. Personally I think having a chat line for Cure II is a good idea until the early-to-mid-20s, but after that, it gets spammy too. In general, if it's a spell that 1) often needs to be followed up by other actions, like a provoke, or 2) is important not to overlap with another caster, or 3) is not cast more than once per battle, a chat line is useful in my opinion.

Tobold
01-26-2004, 02:46 AM
I'm using a very different approach. I got one line of macros for targeting that look like this:

/target <p1>
/echo <t> targeted

With these macros I can target everybody in my party. Then the second line of macros is for all the spells, Cure I, Cure II, Cure III, Regen, etc. That way I can cast every beneficial spell on every character if need be, with just 2 macros.

The other advantage is that if I have a main tank doing his job well, I don't need to change targets very often. And curing him with <t> is faster than curing with <st>. And I can use the same macros on people not in my group.

Of course the debuffs etc. are on <bt>, the above set up is just for the spells you'd want to cast on other players.

Issaac
01-26-2004, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Tobold
I'm using a very different approach. I got one line of macros for targeting that look like this:

/target <p1>
/echo <t> targeted

With these macros I can target everybody in my party. Then the second line of macros is for all the spells, Cure I, Cure II, Cure III, Regen, etc. That way I can cast every beneficial spell on every character if need be, with just 2 macros.

The other advantage is that if I have a main tank doing his job well, I don't need to change targets very often. And curing him with <t> is faster than curing with <st>. And I can use the same macros on people not in my group.

Of course the debuffs etc. are on <bt>, the above set up is just for the spells you'd want to cast on other players.


I dont understand Tobold so you have 6 macros to target your groupmates? Why dont you just press F1 to F6 to select your group?

@Thread
I use 6 Macros /ma "Cure II" <me> to <p5>
and a 7th macro /ma "Cure III" <t>

They are all unter ALT 1-7 th last 3 ALT macros are for buffs which i chance frequently for each enemy. For example poisona and barpoisona for crawlers.

Under CTRL i have all debuffs lined up where the last 3 are my Job abilitys for quick use.

aleriani.DRG.
01-26-2004, 08:06 AM
All very useful info. Bump to the top!