Highest dmg for paly?

[MagicH4t]

after watching some videos i see paladin does a average of 10-20 dmg a hit with a drk doing a avg 60-100 dmg a hit. If those figures are correct whats the most dmg that can be done with a pally???? I mean whm can even get dmg in to the 400's but can a pally using his 5 hit ws???

[MagicH4t]

also my friend is going to be a bst/nin what would work better if its just me and him in a group a PLD/WAR or SAM/WAR

[nuvas]

With Spirits Within WS I hit a crab in Boyahda for over 500. That was with 300% TP though...

[Claritin]

From what I can recall from my knowledge of playing this class and what I have read.

Paladin's are not about DOING damage they are about ABSORBING damage.

DRK are about DOING damage.... they do more dmg than say a WAR... and WAR does more DMG than a PAL.

So why are you comparing them?

A Paladin that does thier role in a group well will use a shield... so that they block more attacks, have a higher DEF score, and can use shield bash to interrupt casting or goblin bombs.

A Dark Knight who does thier role in a group well will be using a 2-handed weapon with no shield... because they are trying to do dmg.

So comparing the 2 classes is silly... they are polar opposites of the melee classes.

Hell I am not even sure right now that I picked the right weapon... I started reading about TP skills and realized clubs have a TP skill that can regen the groups mana.... that might be my real job.... shield and club... I just have to get high enough to get 125 skill in club so I can test it.

[Radamvice]

ever since i saw it used right, paladins should use sword for flat blade imo, extra stuns used to avoid monster tp attacks and spells or whatever = <3

[imac2much]

From my experience, Flat Blade seems to miss quite a bit against ITs in XP PT... but I digress.

I think if you have good communication, it's better to use normal WS in renkei. In my semi-set PT, my rng friend and I always renkei Piercing Arrow -> Seraph, while our 2 BLM's burst with Freeze (2 bursts for a total of about 1800 damage). We have the timing down pat, and get it off flawlessly. If they want to use at the beginning of a fight, only 1 BLM will cast and stand behind me so I can cover while I get hate back.

Killing things 100% faster with renkei >>> chance of stunning a monster.

[Lartfor]

I have seen Paladins do 1200+ dmg with Savage blade. I have also hit for near 600 dmg with fast blade against war lizards in devoi. I also have never seen a pld my lvl doing 10-20 dmg to ITs, im geared for defense and do around 25-40.

[imac2much]

Wow, even with Defender? With Defender on I tend to do 10 damage against Kuftal crabs and Garlaige/QSC Beetles... then again I guess their defense is kind of high. When we poke bats in Garlaige instead, I get the same damage output as you. But personally I prefer crabs and beetles... no jetstream/sickleslash/silencegas/sidewinder/cursedsphere/bombtoss/o____O...

BTW I'm not using anything special, just the Tactic Mgn Espadon (like I think every other PLD my level).

[nuvas]

Flat Blade is a pretty horrible WS. At higher levels you'll rarely use it at all.

I'd love to do 25-40 damage per swing, but like mac I do about 10damage on average. :p

[Lartfor]

With defender up its more like 15-30 ish.

[Kai]

I rarely use defender for some reason unless fighting an IT++. Also something I find strange is I do exactly 37 damage about 5/10 against crabs in Boyahda :spin: . Most the time 25-40 damage against IT's.

[Kagi]

O.O Ethreal, I -never- knew it was you until I looked in your sig.

To add to what's been said above, I hear Vorpal Blade does pretty sweet damage.

[Somajan]

Once you get Cross Blade, Fast Blade becomes pretty much obsolete.

[TheBruce]

Lol, Midgarsormr party!

524 is max I've done with spirit within. I wonder if its damage dependant on how much total hp you have and not if your at 100% total.

Like Galkas would do more than an Elvaan who would do more than a Taru.

Man, where are you guys gonna exp at 58? I'm like 4k away now and we are gettin horrendous exp in boyahda now. I hear terrigan is good, but we went there and were totally lost and scared of the IT goblins Porshia's group was fighting. :)

Btw, sorry about the thread hijack. I really really think I'm going to go 2h in the 60's. That should be better damage imho.

[Infest]

/slap TheBruce... anyone want to help me with af2? =P I still need the feet.

[Madison]

what weapon has spirits within?

[Kai]

The most I have done with Spirits Within on an IT monster was 555 to a crab in Boyahda, and yes Thebruce damage is based on TP and HP for Spirits within, even says so in the description:p .

[nuvas]

Spirits Within is a sword weaponskill.

I got Vorpal Blade and it's pretty awesome, not on IT's though. But just for messing around killing too weaks.

Did 882 damage on a dancing weapon with just 130% tp in Qufim. That's some funny stuff. ;)


Elidrin
60 Paladin/Warrior
Midgardsormr

[foobar]

I can't complain. At 46 and with AF1, on average I've been doing more damage than a THF. :thumbsup:

[daigoro]

I've yet to hit anything for 1000+ but came so close yesterday using club and black halo weapon skill....985 damage on a Fallen Knight.


On the opposite side...I've hit mons in level up PTs with savage blade for 1 damage with level-3 light bonus of 1 :thumbsup:

Think this week should be able to get Groundstrike..maybe can break 1000 with that?

-daigoro

[TheBruce]

Bah eth, read my post again dork.

I didn't ask how much damage Spirit would do with less than full hp, I was wondering if more hp=more damage. So would a galka do more damage with it than an equivalent level taru.

And can we get any more midgarsormr paladins on this thread? :spin:

And Infest, sup dood, heh, I haven't even bothered starting on the af's yet (cept for the boots). I'm just going to burn to 60 and than take care of all that with one group, cept the body of course.

[jnixon16]

This WS truely is horrible, even when you save higher TP for possible longer stun, it only lasts for like 3 seconds

[imac2much]

Flat blade is not for damage, nor is it to actually stop the monster for an extended period of time. Like most stun WS's, it is a way to cancel certain skills and spells from monsters. For example, Goblin's bomb toss can be cancelled, as can ancient magic. This is useful when a Haunt starts casting Flood on you...

[Arximiro]

As a paladadin I usually deal as much damage as the warriors or evern more. Maybe that changes in the higher lvl like 40-50, But paladin rocks after lvl 30 . And another question, Are all you americans because your all in the 50's or above it seems, and it hasnt even been out a long time. R those ur lvls from beta????:confused:

[nuvas]

I didn't play beta. I'm level 60 on retail.

[Kerensky]

What sword skill level is the WS Spirits Within?

[Dark-Cress]

WS lvl 175
a lvl 55 pld

[bside]

the most damage i ever did as a pld in a leveling party was around 530 w/ swift blade. tp was like 120 then. i normally do like 200 damage off of swift blade, but it was for some reason... not usual.

against too weak's, the most i've ever done was 880 or so w/ vorpal blade.

[Arximiro]

daigoro Are you really lvl 75??? if so what is your playtime im jus curious, also the guy who has lvl 60 or above in 3 jobs whats your whats your total playtime, Im jus curious Im almost at 15 days how did u guys get so high since october i play everyday of my life u guys are crazy :thumbsup:

[daigoro]

Originally posted by Arximiro
daigoro Are you really lvl 75??? if so what is your playtime im jus curious, also the guy who has lvl 60 or above in 3 jobs whats your whats your total playtime, Im jus curious Im almost at 15 days how did u guys get so high since october i play everyday of my life u guys are crazy :thumbsup:

I've been playing since July '02 on japanese PS2...playtime clock around 215 days i think. Just think how far you'd be if you had to wait 1 year to get 15 levels ^^ I hit 60 december '02 and 75 december '03 thanks to ridicules waits between genkai quests....not to mention the messed up "Improved" xp system they tried in the 60-65 range (5 chains starting at ~70xp and end at ~150xp was best option, almost impossible to fight tote+)

-daigoro

[bside]

Originally posted by Arximiro
also the guy who has lvl 60 or above in 3 jobs whats your whats your total playtime, Im jus curious Im almost at 15 days how did u guys get so high since october i play everyday of my life u guys are crazy :thumbsup:

i've been playing since Nov 02, when the japanese release for windows came out. (yap, in japan, one for ps2 came out first.) total playtime is around 130 days.

[Arximiro]

you guys are hard core ^^ i wish i could speak japanese, Also move there i hate this country, japan is 100 times more better. But please no one get offended by this jus one mans opionion

[Adam]

Yeah, last I recall PLD's were about taking damage, not dishing it out. With PLD, you sacrifice weapons to up your defense to protect your party, but while you are a DRK, you sacrifice your defense and agility to dish out extreme damage. Depends on the way you look at it, really.

[shenji_s]

I was levvel 59 atm using Tact Magi and did 1203 :eek: on the Level 55 Genkai Hound with 300% tp and full hp lol