Teleport Service Unfairness ?

[boblibob]

Hi all , i was just thinking about this teleport business ,
If a server didn't manage to kill all the treants , then they dont get the teleport service , and they can NEVER have it , because the quest ends tommorow , isnt this unfair for people who arent ingame yet , there missing out , it also makes some servers more playable than others .
Is denying a server anymore chance of getting this ability wrong ? or just dam stoopid ....

[Necrosaro]

I think the teleporters make the game too easy. I really don't care if my server gets it or not. Everquest after getting the plane of Knowledge just wasn't the same.

[Kurgan]

I still have yet to see any confirmation from Square Enix or PlayOnline that there is a an expiration date for completing the quest.

Edit: Nevermind, I found it.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news1258.shtml

[EpsilonPhoenix]

No, it is not unfair. They worked hard and got a big reward. They deserve it.

And I don't think it makes the game too easy. It's up to them if they want to use it. They can continue to travel just the same as before the event.

[sactothrash]

Well they said the teleportation would take place between outposts. Who knows what the details are? Maybe you can only teleport to outposts of your current country for example. If thats the case the benefit isn't as big as you'd think.

There's still a coolness factor in saying "I helped kill the treant!"

[EpsilonPhoenix]

Yeah. Maybe they should give titles to those who gave the most/hardest hits while killing a treant.

"Treant Trampler"


:thumbsup:

[Thark601]

i think it's completly fair...
and for all we know the teleport could just be back to your home nation from any outpost with strong influence of your own nation

if your not playing yet u have the option of going to a server with or a server without it... so stop complaining :)

[Hattori Hanzo]

The system does have a set of rules people:

On the Usage of the Teleport Service:

- In order to take advantage of the teleport service it is necessary to fulfill the following two requirements. One, the refueling quest to the desired region must be completed. Two, the character's job level must be above that level specified by each region.

- The positions and names of the Teleport Service dispatch are as follows:

Port Windurst: (D-5) Rottata
North San d'Oria: (D-9) Jeanvirgaud
Bastok Metalworks: (F-8) Conrad

- Please take notice that the teleport service cannot be used through talking to a Teleport Dispatch outside of one's home country.

- The Teleport Service requires a usage fee. This fee changes as depending on the desired region of transfer and the condition of the Empire.

- In regards to the refueling quest, even if the quest has been received before, after the opening day of the Teleport Service on this world, it is necessary to complete the refueling quest once again.

- In the event that one has applied to move from their home country, the results of the refueling quest do not transfer with them to the other country.

- A technical issue has been confirmed wherein characters whose level is Under 20, upon talking to the Teleport Dispatch, regardless of having completed the refueling quest receive the message, "At present, as there are no regions for whom the refueling quest has been completed, we regret to inform you that we are unable to provide teleport service."

[Sindarkus]

Originally posted by Thark601

if your not playing yet u have the option of going to a server with or a server without it... so stop complaining :)

It's random unless you have a world pass :)

[GT Racer]

its not completely random.
roll character. damn. didnt get it
reroll charachter. damn. didnt get it.
reroll charachter. got it.

[FeanorDRG]

I pay Sguare-Enix monthly to play the game. Square-Enix uses my money to enhance gameplay and make the game more enjoyable. Teleports enhance gameplay. Therefore, no one should have to suffer through days of trying to kill these things in order to make the game more enjoyable to play. Apparently the code has already been written; all they have to do is press a button to implement the teleports. Just my $0.02.

[boblibob]

thv FeanorDRG , thats what im tryin to get across , if were paying for the game , we should be able to have access to everything , maybe after the quest date is over , it can be a single person quest,
sort of the same , but with a special area u have to goto , or a spawn thing like the ECO warrior quest

and
its not completely random.
roll character. damn. didnt get it
reroll charachter. damn. didnt get it.
reroll charachter. got it.

doesnt work for all servers , from what i hear it dont work on ragnarok or midgardsormr ( where i am ) anymore

[Methrage]

I'd rather my server doesnt get the teleport system. I think what ruined everquest was when they added the planes of knowledge.

[Patchinko]

It's a reward to the worlds containing people who are working together and willing to spare time to finish these things off. It may be "unfair" that you're stuck on a world with a bunch of people who don't want to take part, yes, and if that's the case than I suggest you send Squeenix an email and tell them you'd like a chance to world shift to a better server after the event's over. They might not do anything, but then again they might.

IMO, it makes sense considering the number of new people on larger servers is lower than on smaller servers, and thus the integration of such a system accomodates a more experienced populace, especially with the EN release on PS2 coming in a few months. :)

[Pacman]

No one has said yet if maybe these servers who complete the quest just get this teleport system EARLY.

They may still reveal it on all servers. Although SquareEnix my be trying to keep all servers balanced, its not completely out of the question that SE may want to create actual different worlds, that have different technologies.

Who knows what they have planned, but I wouldnt worry about it.

[xarddrax]

Well how about looking at it like this...the newer servers have less high lvl players on them (like Midgardsormr) so it isnt completely "fair". On Midgardsormr we are heavily counting on the JP players that were in the game pre-North American release to kill the 3 areas with lvl 40+ caps since we have alot less lvl40+ players. There are many NA 40+ players but probably 3-4 times more JP players with high characters. So someone on Ragnarok really has no clue what its like on a server that is suffering like we are. A bunch of lvl 30 and lower noobs.
/end whineing

<Side note> I have yet to see a NA player on Midgard with all the REAL summons besides Crapbuncle.
:thumbsup:

[Amaterasu]

yesterday on Kujata, an NA player was attacking the tree in North Gustaberg with Titan and Shiva... ^^

[Patchinko]

Originally posted by xarddrax
Well how about looking at it like this...the newer servers have less high lvl players on them (like Midgardsormr) so it isnt completely "fair". On Midgardsormr we are heavily counting on the JP players that were in the game pre-North American release to kill the 3 areas with lvl 40+ caps since we have alot less lvl40+ players. There are many NA 40+ players but probably 3-4 times more JP players with high characters. So someone on Ragnarok really has no clue what its like on a server that is suffering like we are. A bunch of lvl 30 and lower noobs.
/end whineing

I take it you didn't understand what this meant:
IMO, it makes sense considering the number of new people on larger servers is lower than on smaller servers, and thus the integration of such a system accomodates a more experienced populace, especially with the EN release on PS2 coming in a few months.
Meaning a server with a relatively greater population of higher level players is more suited for this system. It's kind of a reward for the high-level players so they don't have to trounce around the world by airship and chocobo anymore, I'd imagine. Who knows what the level cap on it will be, but I'm certainly not complaining if I get some benefit out of it. :biggrin:

[xarddrax]

I wasnt specifically posting that comment to you just cuz you are on Ragnarok, thats just the first server that came to mind while i was typing since i know it has alot of people. Guess i should just said server "X".

[chuchan]

To the people who was saying that they paid for the game so they should get it too.

Well then how about I pay my monthly dues so i should get my AF armor and lvl75 right off the bat. It enhances gameplay!

wth?

[xarddrax]

Originally posted by chuchan
To the people who was saying that they paid for the game so they should get it too.

Well then how about I pay my monthly dues so i should get my AF armor and lvl75 right off the bat. It enhances gameplay!

wth?


Well i see where you are going with that, but they arent removing AF armor from the game and being able to reach lvl 75. What they ARE saying is that you cant get this ability on your server AT ALL. Waiting to get in due time and not recieving at all cuz 50%+ of your server is lazy, are too different things. You can still EARN AF and LVL75.

[EpsilonPhoenix]

And Fenrir earned their teleport service. :)

[xarddrax]

thought you were going to "quietly await the PS2 version"??
Not being to quiet.:biggrin: :biggrin:

[Susano]

Remember the Treat staff? After the halloween event they nerfed it because it was overpowered.

This will be similar I think, they will even out all the servers. As they already stated, they have found a bug witht he teleporters. All they are doing is testing the code on live live servers as a "bonus". Aftet they hammer out all the quirks, we will all either have it or none will.

SE knows better than to give one or two servers a clear advantage because it would cause an uneven balance of players on the servers.....everyone would jump to that server.

Sit back, wait, and enjoy :P

On a personal note, I refuse to kill the trees for one simple reason, I logged on unknowing of the event and ran into the tree which killed me.....I couldn't attack it since I hadn't talked to the moogle. If they have a mob flagged to be untouchable, don't let it kill someone till they can retaliate. I lost xp and my time and I will not participate in anything that annoys me like that did :P

[Edarion]

I was also an Everquest player and agree with the other people in the forums that a teleport system such as this would be a bad thing for the FF world. Part of the biggest appeal of the game in my opinion is the fact that it has a BIG world feel. I like the fact that it takes a long time to get from San d`Oria to Windurst. If you want to reduce that journey to a toll you pay at an outpost, feel free. I won't cheapen the game experience though.

[pagodaman02]

Of Course, Asura, the newest server, gets royally screwed. We have the lowest population of any server, and I doubt we'll have any chance of taking them down.

[miffycat]

FYI, this is not the first time outpost teleporting is been given as a reward. Just 3 months ago, before the NA came into FFXI, the there was a special event whereby we have to defeat 3 invading monsters in each starting area. The reward for this event is the outpost teleporting.

I am from ragnarok, and i know for sure tat ragnarok was rewarded with this teleporting service months ago. But the service did not stay long and was removed a short while after it was implemented.

From wat i read, i see no clause which states tat this service is going to be implemented forever, neither did it states tat it will have an end date. But from the way it seems, this teleporting will not be here for long, so make full use of it if you have been rewarded with it.

[ruffrydasean]

i heard Asura finished them off actually..could be wrong....check my thread anywho

[EpsilonPhoenix]

Originally posted by xarddrax
thought you were going to "quietly await the PS2 version"??
Not being to quiet.:biggrin: :biggrin:


Why, whatever do you mean? ^_^

[Ross]

No offense or anything.......but all you complaining about it being unfair are completely DUMB. I'm proud to be from Fenrir and our server was the first to get the service. Read the conditions! These conditions make it completely fair. First off, to go to an outpost with the service, you have had to of done a supply quest TO THAT OUTPOST. Next, if you have done that, you have to be AT or ABOVE the level for that area. Also, there is a fee attached (around 200 gil). So, stop your whining and complaining and READ people. It's on Playonline.com for God's sake!:zzz:

Oh yeah.....forgot to add this.....it costs the same as a Chocobo and is limited for the places you can go. Also, you can only teleport FROM your hometown (I'm from Bastok so I can only go from Bastok to outposts, not from any other town).

[Keiro]

ok well its fair and not fair at the same time.
its like saying everyone on the servers with it are heros for doing it when probably alot of them didnt even bother
but then on the servers where people did try as hard as they could still didnt get it its like saying "well touhg luck lazy" i can see it not being fair for those who made a great attempt. which i am sad if midgar doesnt get it cause i tried and the server still doesnt have it.... we need the japs to help us with the high level ones ><

[Osir]

Want some cheese with that whine?

[bonovoxpsu]

yeah, it sounds like teleporting is extremely limited. not the "teleport around the world in 30 seconds" that everyone seems to think. but still helpful enough to warrent killing those giant trees :).

and yes, on the mid server, we don't have a good high lvl populace. this seems mostly obvious as all the lvl 20 treants are dead and i think as of last night all the lvl 30 went down too... not sure. but i'm fairly certain there are 3 lvl 40 trees still around. but hey, what are you gonna do?

susano: sorry but, you getting killed by the treants AOE spells, well that's your own dumb fault. :P

what were you doing near there anyway? you should have stayed WAY clear of that thing to begin with...

[Sent]

Is the event over now? I thought it ended 7:00 PST

-Sent

[Hattori Hanzo]

It was mentioned that Asura defeated the trees.

That is correct.

[Hisdon]

Originally posted by miffycat
FYI, this is not the first time outpost teleporting is been given as a reward. Just 3 months ago, before the NA came into FFXI, the there was a special event whereby we have to defeat 3 invading monsters in each starting area. The reward for this event is the outpost teleporting.

I am from ragnarok, and i know for sure tat ragnarok was rewarded with this teleporting service months ago. But the service did not stay long and was removed a short while after it was implemented.

From wat i read, i see no clause which states tat this service is going to be implemented forever, neither did it states tat it will have an end date. But from the way it seems, this teleporting will not be here for long, so make full use of it if you have been rewarded with it.

was that Gigantoad? ._. we didn't get anything on Cactuar

[felpa_de_osa]

Teleport service can't be bad when the price of chocobos get expensive after gaining lots and lots of levels I will be willing to spend a some gil to get to one kingdom to the next so I could avoid /tell "I need a raise I am 3 miles from you", "could you heal me", and etc. But that wouldn't be after I have level my black mage to level 30 then switch to white mage and raise that till I have maxed white mage or close to it. I don't want to get to lazy and forget what chocobos are for and thats to help explore areas.

[Persephone]

I'm on Migardsormr and it's perfectly fine with me if we don't get the teleportation services. We didn't try hard enough, therefore don't deserve the same reward as those servers that did. It's not unfair at all.

What lesson would SE be teaching us if they gave our server teleportation services as well, just to keep things balanced? It would teach everyone that events don't really matter. There would be even MORE 'midgard' servers out there too lazy to finish events if they knew they'd get rewarded anyway.

There was a contest, we lost, we suffer. That's fair.

[Amaterasu]

^^^ i agree.

I'm glad that my 12+ hours of play time devoted to tree hacking didn't go to waste either (Kujata server).

You work for something, you get it.

You don't, you don't.