Thief/Ninja

[Machiko]

I am approaching level 30 slowly (only 20 right now) and would like to know WHY I should get ninja for sub. I heard ninja was one of the best but I can't figure out why cause i'm stupid lol =P

[Aero]

I'm lvl 20 too, and I'm wondering the same thing. I really would like Nin/Thf, but I hear it's not as good as Thf/Nin..:(

[leii]

u can see my level on the right. for me i went thf/monk. it seems to give better stats than a warrrior. and also if u use boost like 5 times it adds a huge amount of damage with sneak attack. so far the highest i did against a tough monster was 141 dmg. and i am going thf/nin also. also u get counter at a level 10 monk and u get around 50 more hp.

[Cri]

Thief nin is better because its great in evasion, dual wielding dex weapons which is needed. Increased damage some what also but thats not important

[Cri]

Thief nin is better because its great in evasion, dual wielding dex weapons which is needed. Increased damage some what also but thats not important

[John Doe III]

Originally posted by Cri
Thief nin is better because its great in evasion, dual wielding dex weapons which is needed. Increased damage some what also but thats not important

If you have Ninja sub dont buy regular daggers, get status daggers (ex. +3 dex so forth). If they are regular daggers they are worthless and you are wasting your time with that sub job.

[Tatsu-sama]

The reason this is such a good combination (better than having Ninja as a primary class) is because at level 50 theives get triple attack. Combine this with dual wield to get up to 6 hits a turn. You do the math and you know that can equal alot of pain fast.:p

[Milon]

"If you have Ninja sub dont buy regular daggers, get status daggers (ex. +3 dex so forth). If they are regular daggers they are worthless and you are wasting your time with that sub job."

Ya, what that guy said. If you're going to use dual wield you should go with stat increasing or elemental daggers. Ninja also provides the best balance in dex (for Sneak) and agi (for Trick) increases as the levels progress. I'm doing THF/WAR right now, but am looking into THF/NIN later on when some more elemental daggers become available.

[leii]

haha yeah ^

i plan to dual weild 2 parrying daggers +10 to parry each :thumbsup: good stuff

[Aero]

Thanks for the help, I guess thf/nin would be pretty cool actually :)

[sinfox]

i would like to add that utsesumi.. or blink ninjitsu is also an amazing addition to your abilities, especially when pulling..

utsesumi will absorb up to 3 attacks, however it's most interesting property that i've seen so far is the ability to absorb spells also.. when pulling while using utsesumi - you will never be bound again, or have a sizeable chunk of your hp taken off by a powerful spell

i likes it a lot ^^

sin

[Tokitoki]

Parry Knives dont help much as you dont tank.. Sorry leii.

I use a Ryl Squires Dagger for the Acc + and an Acid Knife for Defense Down effect. Blink really is only useful wheb pulling since you cant really tank w/o Provoke. But it is very nice to have so you dont die on the way back to your party :P

[leii]

i just want to raise my parry with them thats all. my parry is like level 20. so i hope to raise my parry fast with them

[Dashwolf]

i'm a thf nin and i'm 32/13 at the moment...

i'm wielding a royal squire dagger on my main and a beestinger on my sub just for the +1 dex and +1 agi

i tried using short sword for the +2 dex but the delay seemed really long.

since most of the damage comes from sneak attack or a fuidama, it only counts the damage from the main weapon, hence my idea of using the beestinger, i'm not sure if this is a good choice. just wondering any other good weapons to wield?

other alternatives i can think of is the archer's knife or the parry knife. but like the guy above said, its kinda useless if you're not tanking.

i might buy a mithran scimitar for that +3 dex if i could afford that 45k on carbuncle -_-

just spent a buckload of gils from silk sales on a full merc capt set..

[Dashwolf]

just a quick question

do you thiefs bother with your main damage really?


i feel most of the damage dealt by theives come from their sneaks and fuidama anyways...

[miffycat]

you are right in the sense most of thf's damage comes from fuidama which explains why thf will suck solo cos most of its attacking power is not utilised.

but in any fight, every thf will try his best to deal as much damage as possible regardless of how "scratchy" his normal damage is. If thf's do not bother with main damage, many high lvl thf's who sub nin and have a choice of 2 wpns would sub AF1 since AF1 gives +2 to agi and dex. But they don't cos AF1 has only D15 and is considered weak once you passed lvl 50. Even though the dex and agi boost helps alot in fuidama and so long as your main wpn is not AF1, your fuidama will be strong, most high lvl thf's won't wanna use Af1 pass 50.

So to your question, yes they do bother with their normal damage.

[Dashwolf]

so...

2 mercenary cpt kuruki is better than 1 merc/1 beestinger?

damm i have to shop for a good knife now :(