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FF_Solarwind
12-26-2003, 06:32 PM
what would be the best support job to go along with a red mage??

BYSBippy
12-26-2003, 06:50 PM
you're halfway there, just decide which side you want the light or dark side. BLM or WHM are the best subs for RDM. depends on whether you wanna be a back-up nuke (with heavy mp reserves) or become more of an emergency healer. These are by far the most popular, but you can sub THF or WAR both classes share attributes w/ RDM. All up to you though.

Beener
12-26-2003, 09:16 PM
For Parties: Whm or Blm, b/c of more MP and some spells

For Solo: Warrior for attack/mp boost

For Farming: Thf for obvious reason

Mylek
12-26-2003, 09:27 PM
BLM and WHM are the most highly regarded sub jobs for a RDM.

Do not be mislead however, for you still will be a RDM regardless of which sub job have. Your overall ability to heal or nuke will not differ greatly between choosing sub WHM or BLM. Here are the essential differenes between the two sub jobs.

RDM/WHM gains the na/barga series of spells, erase, curega, divine seal. (also limited teleport at L72)

RDM/BLM gains the elemental stat debuff series, drain/aspir, sleepga, warp/escape, conserve mp, elemental seal, a bit more MP than whm.

With a balanced PT and for soloing I would give the overall advantage to RDM/BLM. Both are a welcome addition to any PT in need of a RDM.

Patchinko
12-26-2003, 09:59 PM
A sub WHM also gets PT-effect spells that the RDM base job doesn't get, like protectra, shellra and so forth.

I'd say BLM is probably a better sub, though, because later in the game there are plenty of RDM/WHM and BRD/WHM running around. :biggrin:

Pilsbane
12-27-2003, 01:50 AM
I did a /sea all rdm 50- a few times and blackmage came up most often for subjob. A few had whm, but it was about a 3 to 1 ratio blackmage to whitemage.

If I had to make a guess as to why I'd probably say its because of MP Conservation. That skill is soooo nice! I watched Nylia cast about 200 MP worth of spells on her blackmage and it only took away about 120 MP.

Mylek summarizes the differences pretty well. Do not be decieved thinking that RDM/BLM are the nuker redmages and RDM/WHM are the healer redmages. Both are very effective healers and nukers.

Zempten
12-27-2003, 09:36 AM
Well, I'm the kind of guy that doesn't want to be totally responsible for healing everyone's HP. So I went with BLM because at 40RDM/20BLM you get level 20 trait from BLM that allows you to cast spells for less mana cost. So that's always a plus to me ^^.

Apple Pie
12-27-2003, 10:21 AM
Conserve MP is a nice job trait of BLM but the main reason I chose BLM as my sub is because I have Elemental Seal.

For example, when we have to face with multiple enemies, we cast Sleep or SleepII on one of them. However, we don't always succeed to land them. Since they generate a lot of hate and their recasting time is long, we cannot fail.

As we know, Elemental Seal prevents monsters from resisting spells and it works with any elemental and enfeebling spells. Since the population of BLM is quite small, we don't always have BLMs in our PT. In this case, we're the leading actors to save PT members.

We also have Escape at LV58 (LV29 BLM) and we're able to cast it faster than BLMs. If it's really urgent, we can use Chainspell for immediate escape.

Well, finally in my opinion, we should raise both BLM and WHM. RDM/WHM is preferred when we fight with, for instance, skeltons and tigers for Blindna and Paralyna. It is a little hard for only one WHM to cast these on three fighters at front.

Also, leveling WHM makes things easier when we raise melee jobs in solo (up to LV12).