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jamielynn
12-11-2003, 08:06 PM
I was wondering if going black/white or black/red mage is better. red mages get fast cast and magick attack bonus therefore is red mage the ideal choice for a blm that is supposed to deal alot of damage?

almighty_boof
12-25-2003, 07:00 PM
I may not be speaking from experience, but I do really think that a blk/red is a good combo! It only demends on what kind of charachter you're aiming for though....A /red would be the almighty caster of great awasome spells with a kewl boost of attack magic and the ability to equip some of their armor. While a /wht would give you a few satus boosts and a bit more magic spells. I'm not to sure, but the /red sounds a lot better to me. They cannot get some really high level spells, yet, but I'm sure we will be able to see something like that in the near future. So basically it all depends on what you want! A buff spell caster that can help thier allies more by taking down enemies stats and using little healing abilities. Or a pretty good attack magic caster thet can heal a lot more but is unable to lower enemies stats very much and is VERY limited as to what armor he can use. I may have talked down about the /wht a little (and it isnt as bad as it sounds) but I just think that a /red is better. Im hoping a lot that my charachter is going to be like that (Thats what Fenriss (my character) is going to be)

Kirara
12-25-2003, 08:17 PM
white mage!

Discordian
12-26-2003, 09:13 AM
I sub redmage sinec my main is redmage. I don't have the patience to be someone's heal tank anymore. I have a good damage dealer mentality. However I do throw heals around, a death by lack of healing or lack of MP is very infrequent in the parties I'm in.

blm/whm gets more options though.

Shooichi
12-26-2003, 08:36 PM
Isn't a RDM just a BLM/WHM in a conservative package? Therefore, wouldn't BLM/RDM just be a repetitive and slower version of RDM?

Discordian
12-27-2003, 10:15 AM
Its an all in one package but master at only one aspect. Enfeebling. Enfeebling is an A+ skill so their skill is the highest in that area, everything, EVERYTHING is a B and below, this includes Evansion. Heck a WHM has a B+ club skill, I have a B sword skill.

However if you do rdm right you will make a lot of friends.

almighty_boof
12-27-2003, 10:47 AM
Ugh...I just read that You can't use /Red's equipment...You can only use your main jobs equipment, So If you wan to use good swords and strong armor, then you will have to Red/Blk...I really wanted to do /Red with my Blk, but now I'm not sure what to do myself! I just know that ?red has good enfeeblement spells, but you don't get the useful abilities until lv 30 ( and you can only get to about lv 32 when you sub because the lv cap for main is 75). I'm thinking /wht is good (it seems like a popular sub) but /red is also good (for its coninual cast abilities and such). But another thing you could do is /Sum because you would SOO many mps that it is disgusting. Although you will have to wait till lv 30 to get that AND it takes a while to get all the good summons...Geez! Trying to figure out what to sub is difficult!!! I think I'm gonna do /Red still but when I hit lv 30 with my blk/red, then I will turn over to a blk/sum I'm not to sure if that is an awsome combo, but Carbuncle give a lot of stat boost things. I know that /wht is probably the best combo, but EVERYONE has that one!! Ugh....Man it is difficult!!!

Pandar
12-28-2003, 01:18 PM
i think a rdm would kill a blm faster if ur not careful and nuke spells too fast u = DEAD

Pilsbane
12-29-2003, 07:05 PM
No matter what sub you pick for Blackmage you will still only be able to equip weapons and armor that Blackmages can equip.

Advantages for Redmage sub (instead of WHM):
-Higher INT
-You get parry, albeit a low skill in it.
-Fast Cast. Although, this one is highly over-rated. It lets you finish casting your spell at a lower percentage on the casting bar, but you still have to wait the entire 100 percent before you can cast another spell.
-Redmage only spells such as Dispel and Phalynx. These are both awesome spells but both are expensive, and both are spells you won't see until much higher level (64BLM/32RDM for Dispel for example). You won't get Refresh or Convert as a RDM sub with the current level cap.

Advantages for Whitemage sub (instead of RDM):
-More MP
-Divine Seal.
-Higher Healing Magic skill
-Healing spells at a lower level. Sure both give the Cure spells but it takes a 28 BLM to get Cure2 from a RDM subjob when a 22 BLM can get Cure2 from a WHM subjob.
-Auto Regen
-Raise (Redmages get it at 38 which would be 76BLM--Level Cap isn't that high yet)
-Curaga, great for reducing downtime after battles
-Poisona, and many other -na spells that cure status ailments.
-Teleport Dem, Mea, and Holla at really high level BLM/WHM

I might have missed something, but this gives you a general idea. In the long run WHM looks to be the better sub, although RDM isn't useless. Subbing something other than WHM or RDM can be harmful to your party because then you can't help as an effective back-up healer, although I am sure there are exceptions.