What should I be averaging in LV61~63 PT?

[Tomoh]

It is really becoming tough to level up to 62. My last few parties are averaging anywhere from 1000 ~ 1500 an hour. One PT had BRD and another had an extra RDM. Problem seems to be that it takes long to defeat a tote or totetote that gives anywhere from 80~100 EXP. I've tried Boyada and at the other end of Kuftal.

Is this common? My last 2 PTs weren't too bad either
1. WHM, RDM, RDM, SAM, PLD, THF
2. SUM, BLM, RDM, SAM, PLD, THF

[Lady Kelenae]

Yea.. i've been getting sucky PT's lately.. but i made level 65 ^^;... Try onzozo with a bard and RDM killl Torma there pretty good Exp if you have a good PT... have to constently heal for Para/Silince.. they do that so often >.<.. just hope there isnt more then 3 PT's there.. becuase it would be hard to get anything with that many people there.. but anyways... should get good Exp there if the PT is good or even in Sorrow Valley Rapters and Roc type birds is good..

I havent PTed with a Sam on my server.. its mostly been Dragoon or monk..

Last PT's:
Bard,RDM,PLD,WHM,Monk,Thief
Bard,WHM,War,Drg,THF,PLD (Got good exp from this group in Boya.. but didnt last long)
Bard,whm,rdm,pld,drg,monk(strange set up.. but worked.. got me to 65)

[Aldo]

63-66 was the greatest/fastest exp for me. Processionaires in Boyhada give outstanding exp, the only problem would be the crowds there and possibly aggroing Gobbues by accident. It seems to me your parties in the past have lacked a strong accuracy support like warrior using shield break (its more effective than 2x madrigails from bard, when in pt w/ both its excellent). Thats the #1 problem for high level melees, slow chains due to lack of accuracy, try getting a warrior next time see how it goes.

[Oro]

Just an opinion, but I woudnt touch Onzozo's Toromas until melee's are 63 if you want to be 'efficient.'

I would reccomend the raptors (name I forgot) in valley of sorrow at lv61-63 (even on a fast PT, you can get away with 64). Once all melee's are 63+ take em to Onzozo, because that place is good til 65 (not sure about 66, cause we left once melee's hit 66).

One last comment on Valley, I often got /tells from PT leaders (when I was leading), I didnt understand what they were asking but I think it had something to do with where I was situated, when leveling in valley, if there is a current PT there, it would be worth asking wether they are playing in the north or south area

If your PT is really flowing and come accross an Ose (64-66) dont hesitate to fight it :spin:

Average experience was 3-4+k an hour. I know we never got less. PTs consisted of RDM(me) BRD DRG WHM THF (eventually the same person) and mostly PLD (sometimes WAR).

I believe I'll be taking Herodrinks advice for 66 in boyhada, a number of players have reccomended it. Although apparantly they were beefed up, we tried em on 65 and even though we wasnt freatened, it wasn't efficient or fun

[Russta]

I found leveling so boring and frustrating past 60 I took a huge break till recently. Herostink is right in that a Warrior Shield Break will make a huge difference so once you get into a party that has Warrior and a Bard you will forget all about this post. Just tough it out until you get to the Procastinators and Torama parties and things will pick up a great deal and keep on praying for a Skimmer chaining party of RNG, THF, PLD, RDM, WHM, BRD.

[Jei]

at level 60+ if you want to be fast you'll need lots of firing power. The jobs I love for these levels are THF RNG and BLM.
BRD RDM BLM PLD THF RNG is one of the fastest killing PT out there.

[tongyang]

Originally posted by Russta
keep on praying for a Skimmer chaining party of RNG, THF, PLD, RDM, WHM, BRD.

Make that WAR instead of PLD and BLM instead of WHM and I'm with you :biggrin:

[Lady Kelenae]

Originally posted by tongyang


Make that WAR instead of PLD and BLM instead of WHM and I'm with you :biggrin:

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[Kirara]

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[Awntawn]

Sheild break is like stacking 10 madrigal songs. Use shield break then use minuet3 and 4... the difference between hitting a rock and beating on a pillow.

Also, a party member had brought up an interesting point on crawlers once... How the hell do they evade with a body like that?! :mad:

[Russta]

Originally posted by tongyang
Make that WAR instead of PLD and BLM instead of WHM and I'm with you :biggrin:

I'm not to likely to wish for a party without a White Mage am I now :sweat:

On a side note though, from all the Rangers I have partied with, the one who subbed Warrior and not Samurai I found to be doing far greater damage. I don't even think the extra Sidewinders accounted for the sheer ownege delt by drainpiper Shadie.

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Rangers have nothing over me though :thumbsup:

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[Awntawn]

Yeah samurai sub is severely overrated... The damage is so much lower that all the extra WS's don't break even... I hope people wake up and realize this some day. I've heard this and that from people around, but from personal observations, sub war still does the most damage for every class, including thf. Maybe it's "just the ones I see," but it's quite a coincidence how I ALWAYS happen to party with the good war subbers and crappy sam or nin subbers of various different melee classes :sweat:

Oh yeah, onzozo toromas are pretty good if you have a decent party config. THF doesn't seem to very effective vs them, however (neither is incurve renkei or shield break)... Around 62 i think (can't remember) i got 22k in 5 hours, with competition running in and out. Cocks in terrigan are OK too for mid 60's (if you can get around the horrendous links). if you use armor break on them, they die pretty fast. Got 2.8k per hour without a bard, I'm pretty sure it would have been much better with. Sadly, nothing can beat P-imos on a good day with a good party though :(

Then again monster levels have been changed, and are changing again with the next patch, so I'm not sure of anything anymore :(

[tongyang]

Oh I agree that WAR sub is more powerful per hit. But in my semi-set PT (half people set, half ppl I invite), I always have a WAR and a BRD. Minuet x 2 covers whatever lack of damage a SAM sub have, so that does not apply to me ;)

Awntawn - And rangers are shooting right next to the enemy, how can sidewinders miss so much? :eek:

Russta - Don't make me go to Zehrun Mines and hunt those Ding Bats! :biggrin:

[Russta]

Originally posted by tongyang
Russta - Don't make me go to Zehrun Mines and hunt those Ding Bats! :biggrin:

No, no, it was totetote!! I swear to God!!!

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[Tomoh]

Thanks everyone!! I'll have to try to find the time, better yet form my own PT to crawl my way to LV62:)

[Russta]

Originally posted by Tomoh
Thanks everyone!! I'll have to try to find the time, better yet form my own PT to crawl my way to LV62:)

Feel free to ignore all the advice given here and give my DRK a shout when you do :thumbsup:

[Oro]

Originally posted by Russta


Feel free to ignore all the advice given here and give my DRK a shout when you do :thumbsup:

61BLM LFG :thumbsup:

[Razz]

The greatest source of EXP is Ninja tank, period.

Setup a formation such as NIN, WAR, RNG, THF, BRD and RDM and you should get 3500-4k EXP per hour.

You can replace bard for a damage dealer such as DRK or Dragoon, if your ninja is good you'll only need one mage to heal.

It's such a shame people are dumb enough to invite ninja tanks into a 3 mage PT.

WTF is the point?

[Tomoh]

Good point Razz. I'll keep that in mind.

Last night, I was able to gain around 7000 Exp in about 2.5 hours with RDM, WHM, BRD, THF, THF, and WAR.

[Skye]

Originally posted by Awntawn
Yeah samurai sub is severely overrated... The damage is so much lower that all the extra WS's don't break even... I hope people wake up and realize this some day. I've heard this and that from people around, but from personal observations, sub war still does the most damage for every class, including thf. Maybe it's "just the ones I see," but it's quite a coincidence how I ALWAYS happen to party with the good war subbers and crappy sam or nin subbers of various different melee classes :sweat:





yea la, SAM sub is not a good sub for melees that uses 1 hit WS or fast hit WS like dagger even multi hit it gives low TP,

Sam sub is good for 2h Heavy Type weapons only (gives huge amount of TP back for multi hit WS then do another in short short time)
and then do multi heavy WS at multi times to see power effect

but ppl still subs SAM even is not best sub just for the hack of it XD fun sub w

[Yuna]

any THF without sneak attack is going to be super weak and even if you can gain 100% TP in 10 secs, neither ability will be ready. personally i find NIN to be the best sub for THF.

one possible reason why sidewinder can miss so much for farplaner.... you are an elvaan ;)

[Skye]

Originally posted by Yuna
any THF without sneak attack is going to be super weak and even if you can gain 100% TP in 10 secs, neither ability will be ready. personally i find NIN to be the best sub for THF.

one possible reason why sidewinder can miss so much for farplaner.... you are an elvaan ;)

why are elvaans so blind XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[tongyang]

Originally posted by Yuna
one possible reason why sidewinder can miss so much for farplaner.... you are an elvaan ;)

Oh, I'm just talking about sidewinders generally ;) MY sidewinders don't miss THAT often. A whole PT I'd miss probaly 3 or 4 times out of 50 :biggrin:

[Yuna]

if sidewinder can miss on normal monsters... i wonder how it will fare against adamanking where even melee hit is miss miss miss

[Reihn]

62-65 kinda dragged for me, too ^^; Happened right after they changed the upper level of boyahda's strength. Basically the best exp 63-64 was Onzozo and it was usually overcrowded ^^; Anyways, I got 65 monk and they.... well, they nerfed THF and I seem to be really popular now, lol. Anyways, around 65 PLD MNK(WAR SJ), MNK(THF SJ - me usually), BRD, WHM, RDM can hunt bones in Gustav. Pretty damn good, too. And it's so fun to hit for 400-800 on totetote + 500 or more effect! Λ is awesome~ haha The obvious reasons for specific monk SJs is one to taunt while he uses WS and my SJ to put 1000-1200 damage hate on the PLD ^^ Flash is awesome, too (No way for me to ever want a NIN again hehehe) Also, the new killer/circle from the PLD makes those bones tremble in fear...

At 66 was chaining tote P-imo with PLD DRG MNK RDM RDM WHM maybe with BRD in there a bit faster hehe (Rennkei: Swift>souryuukyaku>daiguruma), about 7-8k in 2.5-3 hours. Got 10k in PLD MNK MNK BRD BLM RDM in Gustav right after hehe The galka monk didn't wanna taunt in rennkei so I decided to fuidama him lol ^^ Didn't matter he was a beasty wall! Anyways, had another strange thought that might work: WAR/NIN(1h axe), DRK/WAR, MNK/THF, BRD, RDM, WHM hehe Do Cross Reaper>Mistral Axe>Souryuukyaku for rennkei with fuidama on the WAR of course... might work against your non-bone beasties and a different combo of non THF main attackers to try ^^ (remember bard can lower enemies resistance so this can actually hurt P-imo and maybe those flies hehe) also at early 65 I cockatrice chain with PLD RNG MNK BRD WHM RDM arching>souryuu rennkei but this was right before yokodama nerf so the rng was SJ NIN (he was 66 obviously too) anyways if he SJ WAR think it'd be fine now ^^

Just some thoughts about some strange combos that can be more utilized now that 225 WS makes rennkei more friendly with monk (and THF is not as strong as they were, so monks seem more strong by comparison >^.^<) BTW, anyone saw the attributes on –²‘zˆ¢?C—…Œ?? >< gravity and dissolution?!! WTH it's 8 hits but terrible attributes (sounds like Guillotine #2 ><)

And SAM SJ is pretty overrated... I would usually use WAR as my other choice if not THF ^^;;