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Tyleron
12-03-2003, 05:56 PM
Hey all i was talking with some guys on my server n i heard of something called Ancestral Magic. I heard BLM get it at really high lvls but i'm not to sure what it is heh. is it a nuke? any info would be appreciated thx ;).

Silkiv
12-04-2003, 12:50 AM
I think the first one is lvl 50 - Freeze - 307 mp - Ice - Elemental - 17.75 cast time- 41.50 recast time - Deals ice damage to an enemy and lowers it's resistance against fire.

Takanaki
12-09-2003, 06:10 AM
Tornado Flood Quake Flare

Icemage
12-10-2003, 02:09 PM
There are 6 Ancient Magic spells for BLM, corresponding to the 6 base "elemental" elements (not Light and Dark). They cost a LOT of MP, are usually difficult to acquire, and do large amounts of damage.

Just going from memory:
Freeze - Ice damage, lowers defense to Fire
Flare - Fire damage, lowers defense to Water
Flood - Water damage, lowers defense to Lightning
Burst - Lightning damage, lowers defense to Earth
Quake - Earth damage, lowers defense to Wind
Tornado - Wind damage, lowers defense to Ice


Icemage

Andry
12-11-2003, 05:27 AM
tornado's 2k in the jeuno AH on ragnarok.

evilution
12-11-2003, 08:54 AM
ancient nukes own if you have 2 BLM in the PT and your tanks are competant enough to work with you to burst them.

say hello to a dead IT in 20 seconds every other pull with your healer at full MP because he only had to cast 2 heals on the tank before the mob died.

plenty of time for you to regen the 300ish MP on the next pull and still maintain chain's up to 5 and 6.

dont listen to the nay sayers :P My group has flown from 50-55 using this tactic (3 nights play).

Tsama
12-11-2003, 10:24 AM
/emote makes a note to go and get some Ancestrail Magic as soon as he gets a chance.

That doesn't sound that bad. I think that I am going to have to work on getting some when I get a little higher.

50-55 in 3 nights isn't bad.

Hmm... What type of Exp to the Mobs spit out in the 50's?

Kirara
12-11-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by evilution
ancient nukes own if you have 2 BLM in the PT and your tanks are competant enough to work with you to burst them.

say hello to a dead IT in 20 seconds every other pull with your healer at full MP because he only had to cast 2 heals on the tank before the mob died.

plenty of time for you to regen the 300ish MP on the next pull and still maintain chain's up to 5 and 6.

dont listen to the nay sayers :P My group has flown from 50-55 using this tactic (3 nights play).

bs

whats your group composed of ? was it pld drg or was it pld thf and whm rdm blm blm

and 6 chain is such a bs D;/

evilution
12-11-2003, 02:31 PM
sorry, 6 chain is not bs ^^

Its only happened once tho :( 5 chains happen on about 80% of the chains tho.

PLD, DRG, BRD, WHM, BLM, BLM

wish the WHM was a rdm tho :(

dont h8 cuz we think outside the PLS/THF/DRK box

Kirara
12-11-2003, 02:57 PM
i am not some newbie who hasn't been through those levels,
at level 53 you can mb what... tournado? freeze? even if you were taru at that level those mb will do at max 900... or probably 850 WITH day of week and weather effect they can do what... 1000? 2 mb together will do 2000 and lets say your pld and drg renkei for a combo of 500 damage (that's a fucking woopy dood for pld drg combo)
2500 hp... it probably will be 4/5 of the hp of the monster that level has or they might even have more.

and about your 6 chain bs
there has been enough test, (i have even tried it myself) that pull 2 onajiku mobs at end of 4 chian, kill one to almost no life, finish the other full life one, got 5 chain, i bomb the almsot no life one dead with 1 blm which takes like no longer than 10 seconds than the 5th chain died and we still didn't get 6chain... 6 chain is such a rumor...

and i never have pld/thf/drk combo, i hate drk (you suck skye D;/)
if you think pld/thf/drk is the thing people do, it shows how much you know shit about this game

evilution
12-11-2003, 03:40 PM
tornado does 1088 with a MB

1130-1150 with weather effects.


We did get an exp chain #6, chose not to beleive it thats your problem.

And for knowing so little about this game me and my group sure do play it well.

Highmage
12-12-2003, 05:29 AM
hi, just wanted to say that 6 chain is not bs ;)

i got 3 #6 chains today leveling my sub in korroloka.

all JP party, went from 16-20 in a couple of hours chaining worms

party setup was nin/war (blink tank), smn/whm, whm/blm (me), war/mnk, drg/war, thf/mnk

never rested, chain 4, 5, 6 all night, 4000-5000k exp per hour

i love korroloka. for those reading, never go to valkurm...

Andry
12-12-2003, 08:58 PM
korroloka is a low level place.

mobs also die much faster at low levels, hence its possible to get 6 chains then

at higher levels though...

Awntawn
12-13-2003, 09:05 PM
You have 30 seconds after you kill the 5th chain monster to kill the next monster and get a 6 chain, and I think 7 chain is 15 seconds. Doesn't happen much unless you link on "the shit in the way" on your way back :p

Arguile
12-15-2003, 09:11 AM
So basically it is possible to get beyond chain 10 if you could kill multiple monsters at once. I'm thinking an alliance, 6blm's total, area nukes up the ass.

Has anyone tried that? (And i know the xp would suck, i'm just wondering.)

Helmar
12-18-2003, 06:12 PM
Kirara, play a class beyond level 9. Every 10 levels, the length of time have to continue a chain increases. At level 50-59, you have 60 seconds (one full minute) to kill the mob and continue the chain beyond #5.

Icemage
12-18-2003, 09:29 PM
Umm... I believe Kirara is a level 70 BLM. ^^


Icemage

Kirara
12-19-2003, 12:52 AM
make that 71