Things/ppl in-game that piss you off

[Awntawn]

c'mon i'm sure we all have a buncha annoyances that we feel like ranting out. Let's hear'em. I'll start. I'm really pissed off by/when:

Warriors who only train two hand sword :mad:
Warriors who don't know how to taunt :mad:
Warriors who sub whm in parties but don't heal :mad:
Warriors who only train two hand sword who make the DRK in the PT switch to one hand sword to get renkei to work :mad:
PT's that expect the DRK to be the main meatshield :mad:
PT's that expect the DRK in the PT to fish :mad:
Realizing that I've invited a galka mage :mad:
Warriors who only train two hand sword who make the DRK in the PT switch to one hand sword to get renkei to work then use the wrong WS during renkei :mad:
Doing less damage than PLD :mad:

[Findecano]

I use 2 handed swords... but i know how to taunt :thumbsup:

[Seulgaist]

I know that Taunters are important, but for the love of god can we please stop getting like four taunters in a pt? I mean, c'mon. That's a little overkill. Two taunters is fine. When you have four, people are going to start wasting taunts by going over one another (when they could really use it when the mages get aggroed). Besides some classes are natural taunters due to their high attack power. I dont want to have to keep using Sub War. Seriously, I'm using DRK, my deffense sucks. Why would I want to taunt anyway? I would rather use sub monk for the added HP, great abillities (i.e. Evasion and Accuracy), and greater Vitality. But pt's nowadays are too "Taunt" happy. The only taunters should be Warriors, Paladins, and in extreme cases Monks due to the high HP. But beyond that, screw it.

[Osaka]

Ummm people who claim that they can RP then start talking about new hardware. ^_^ I made that up, but I wanted to post anyway.

[Jei]

i join a portion of your lists. some not

something im really mad about
- a THF using back attack from the back of a whm taru. ouch
- a BRD who sub /war..... nightmare
- a whm who doesn't heal. let the PLD heal himself and die.
- tankers that run away from enemy leaving the black mage behind to die.... f*** don't they know what escape is?
- a WHM who stays and heal when the party pulls a linked monster. And then the whm dies and no one else can raise. WHM is the most important job that should stay alive at all cost.
- warrior that don't know how to taunt. yes i agree this one.
- a blm who doesn't have desion2 or escape but doesn't say it early. Until the PT finish killing, we get stuck deep inside some super hard dungeons with no map. because everyone expect escape+desion2 from the blm. Lucky enough the whm can teleport.

...

[Apoc]

Some more..... to add to the list:

- Melee Chars who don't taunt at all or during times when your healers are out of MP and your HP is going damn fast!

- Bards who DON'T SING!

- Thiefs who use 1h swords and nothing else.

- Galka Mages...need I say more about them.....

- DRK / WHMS that arent tarus!

and last but not least....

- people who use /say all the time for LONG chats

[Sheila]

Tarus who taunt or want to tank or play melee in general

People who run out of escape range

WHMs who hold back curing so they can "skill up using cure4" while wasting tons of mp and generating hate, endangering melee members because they allow their hp to red

WHMs who cast paralyse/other weakening all day, fail, and keep trying because they have crap weaken skill, wasting mp and time that should be on healing members

Party members who dont pay attention to other members, ie recasting spells/casting weaker spells, going ahead on renkei

Warriors who never taunt, even after being assigned taunt order and seeing mages get hurt

People wanting to choose their own renkei even if its significantly weaker, simply because they like the weapon and want to skill up during party. skill up and level up are not the same thing

RDM/BLMs who dont know wtf their spells really do but cast them all anyway, or who cast version1 spells endlessly, wasting more mp and doing less damage than version2/3.

People who are in party yet are still using /say while insulting other players to show how leet kewliez they are

people who feel the need to post in strictly in-game talk when they arent ffxi players

[Lady Kelenae]

Number rule one on my List is: KEEP HEALER ALIVE AT ALL COSTS

Never forget that rule....Learned this on EQ

[Kilgraw]

l33t players that insult Roleplayers for RPing.

[Lady Kelenae]

Originally posted by Kilgraw
l33t players that insult Roleplayers for RPing.

ahh!... Thanks for Reminding of that one too! I hate that!

[Extreme]

Originally posted by Seulgaist
I know that Taunters are important, but for the love of god can we please stop getting like four taunters in a pt? I mean, c'mon. That's a little overkill. Two taunters is fine. When you have four, people are going to start wasting taunts by going over one another (when they could really use it when the mages get aggroed). Besides some classes are natural taunters due to their high attack power. I dont want to have to keep using Sub War. Seriously, I'm using DRK, my deffense sucks. Why would I want to taunt anyway? I would rather use sub monk for the added HP, great abillities (i.e. Evasion and Accuracy), and greater Vitality. But pt's nowadays are too "Taunt" happy. The only taunters should be Warriors, Paladins, and in extreme cases Monks due to the high HP. But beyond that, screw it.

You DO need more then two taunters, no PT can get along with two. What if taunter#1 gets low life, so taunter#2 taunts off him. Then when the WHM goes to heal taunter#1, the monster aggros toward him/her. Then you have one taunter with low life, and one who cant taunt for another 30 secs. You need AT LEAST 3 taunters in a pt, anything else is just foolish

[Cedric-Archaon]

Originally posted by Extreme


You DO need more then two taunters, no PT can get along with two. What if taunter#1 gets low life, so taunter#2 taunts off him. Then when the WHM goes to heal taunter#1, the monster aggros toward him/her. Then you have one taunter with low life, and one who cant taunt for another 30 secs. You need AT LEAST 3 taunters in a pt, anything else is just foolish

Umm, two taunters is perfectly fine. I've gone 30-36 with only needing me and one other emergency taunter basically, anything else is just waste. It's hard for me to get to low hp with 800 unless my whm is a fucking retard.

[[3viL]3D]

90% of my PT use 2 taunters + 1 thief... 2 taunters stand at the opposite direction of each other for the thief to use "fuidama", having decent damage, WHM shouldn't be able to lure the enemy with just a couple shot of Cure2/3... The only cure that need to be taunted off is sign + curega... Act like goddess bless, besides of the fact it is easier to taunt off.
And even at your worse case scenerio, the 1 taunter should have some HP to taunt it off the mage anyway.

[Extreme]

Originally posted by Cedric-Archaon


Umm, two taunters is perfectly fine. I've gone 30-36 with only needing me and one other emergency taunter basically, anything else is just waste. It's hard for me to get to low hp with 800 unless my whm is a fucking retard.

Oh you will get low HP when fighting ‚Æ‚Ä‚Æ‚Ä, no matter how much HP you have. 3 is the safe way to go, there are too many things that can happen when u only have 2

[Cedric-Archaon]

Originally posted by Extreme


Oh you will get low HP when fighting ‚Æ‚Ä‚Æ‚Ä, no matter how much HP you have. 3 is the safe way to go, there are too many things that can happen when u only have 2

If I have a whm constantly healing me and not playing with himself while we fight, my hp stays above 500 almost the whole time. If you have a pt with 2 thiefs and 2 taunters you kill tote tote in no time at all. I know what I am talking about, I spent the last week leveling up every night.

[Awntawn]

more annoyances:

Accidentally joining a PT with a high level difference and can't leave as a courtesy :mad: Dooming the next 3 hours to low exp.

Crappy renkeis that do sh*t for damage

PT's that insist on using those crappy renkeis :mad:

Off topic arguments that turn hostile get my threads locked :mad:

On a contrasting note, I DO love it when:

I (DRK/WAR) do more damage on MB than a BLM ^^

I critical to finish off a monster and it does more damage than thief's backstab. People all go "‚¨‚¨?AˆÃ?•‚Í‚·‚²‚¢?I" It's especially good when a newbie warrior says that, and I inspire them to become DRK :thumbsup: Basically, I feel DRK's are extremely underated and anything I do to make people think differently makes me feel great :cool:

[Jei]

just today i meet a real a$$ hole. he plays a rdm :mad: grrrrr

every fights he just sit. doing nothing.
after every fights he would stand up and says "i'm back"

WTF.
after a few fights out war dies. The RDM was just sitting. then he talked shits like we are weak PT then log out. WTF we've been fihgting with 5 people!

the name is Zwei, titan server. the lame ass rdm

[Sheila]

Before the element patch, DRK was barely useful actually. Now that two hand sword and scythe are really needed for the WS and renkei, I'm recruiting them all the time, no matter how bad their defense is.

3 taunters is best, but 2 true tank type (war or pld) taunting is fine. I will admit even with just 2 taunters it does get dangerous sometimes.

I dont see why you say thieves are needed or overly strong though, cause they still aren't. *points to the millions shouting and flagged for pt*

[Tomoh]

Here are couple of my pet peeves:

- PT ending when you're @400 for the next level. @100 happened once:mad:
- PT member who says that next one is last. Courtesy is to let ur PT know at lease 30 min before
- People who don't listen and do as they please. This was the case with 1 importer who was the leader. He insisted on hunting & brought monsters before Mages had recovered their MP to a reasonable level.
- I also find some importers impatient, which annoys me. "Go" is their favorite word:mad:

[Alex]

hm...people that just gave up because they couldnt find any PT and MOVED TO DIFFERENT SERVER...well thats my friend actually TT

[dbeeo]

off topic: how do the black list work? if we put some one into black list, is it everyone will know the person is in the black list???


most fustrated: no reply from inviting or /tell, happened all the time

[Nadyxes]

what i hate is:

1 /says in town--it gets annoying when there are english tells when in towns
2 when the other whm/rdm/blm is not healing ~ when he is afk for a bit
This really gets to me because i trying to heal everyone but cant since i am waiting for cast time
3 when pts cant fish~ i was in a pt and all the pt kept doing was zoning bak and forth because they taunted 2 enemies. ALso dead bodies everywhere because of that
4 when other pts bring more than one enemy and are running away~causing death to other pts as well
5 english shouts in town and other places
6 when the same person checks your equip/lvl multiple times over in the same period of time span
7 when mages dont have up to date spells
8 when mages dont have good armor

[tongyang]

Originally posted by Jei
- a BRD who sub /war..... nightmare

This is not that bad in early levels, especially for galkas and elvaans (MP is simply not enough). Post level 32 though, all bards should sub white (because of curaga).

- a WHM who stays and heal when the party pulls a linked monster. And then the whm dies and no one else can raise. WHM is the most important job that should stay alive at all cost.

You mean the white mage should run away and leave the party alone?

- a blm who doesn't have desion2 or escape but doesn't say it early. Until the PT finish killing, we get stuck deep inside some super hard dungeons with no map. because everyone expect escape+desion2 from the blm. Lucky enough the whm can teleport.

I think it's the PT leader's responsibility to as the BLM whether he/she has dezone2 or escape if the BLM just reached the level to be able to use those spells. Because the spells can be expensive. Kind of like teleport vazu, not every white mage who is lv 42 can afford it.

Originally posted by Cedric-Archaon
Umm, two taunters is perfectly fine. I've gone 30-36 with only needing me and one other emergency taunter basically, anything else is just waste. It's hard for me to get to low hp with 800 unless my whm is a fucking retard.

Heck, if you have 2 thieves, one taunter is enough when they're all lv30+. Fuidama is that powerful. But, no thieves, 2-3 taunters is really needed.

Originally posted by Nadyxes
8 when mages dont have good armor

I'm not sure mages really need that good armor though. Unless you're talking about +INT/+MP/+other stats rings. Just keeping the armor decent is fine with me :) And of course don't wear lv1 armor as a lv30 ;)

[Nadyxes]

hey i know lots of mages dont upgrade their equipment at higher lvls
they mostly waiting for rse but still in a pt low armor for mages is bad
I dont have my full set of rse yet i spent like 30-50 k on upgrades in armor ^^
*btw my mnd is actually like +9 but if i equip my 1 hand staff instead of my 2 hand staff my mind would be +13

[Hopkins]

Cretins who complain because they dont get groups often yet when they ARE in one all they do is say "cmon cmon, lets kill more!"!!" " Shall i pull that? or that? whats a tote tote mean??"

or worse

People that complain they get ignored and dont get in groups and show little to no etiquette for JP people. "Why should I learn some Japanese??" /roll eyes

[Jei]

You mean the white mage should run away and leave the party alone?
Yes. Whenever the leader gives a "RUN" command, WHM is the first and on the top priority surviving list. they should run first and zone out as soon as possible.

No front line fighters will leave the fighting until WHM zones out.

This will not be true in a 30+ PT with a black mage. Escape get the most priority here

[tongyang]

Originally posted by Jei
Yes. Whenever the leader gives a "RUN" command, WHM is the first and on the top priority surviving list. they should run first and zone out as soon as possible.

Well, duh ;) If the party leader gives a "RUN" command, everybody should run. I was assuming that whenever a white mage sees link he/she should run right away ;)

[Extreme]

Originally posted by Cedric-Archaon


If I have a whm constantly healing me and not playing with himself while we fight, my hp stays above 500 almost the whole time. If you have a pt with 2 thiefs and 2 taunters you kill tote tote in no time at all. I know what I am talking about, I spent the last week leveling up every night.

When I said two 'taunters', i didnt actually mean the taunt ability. Thiefs can taunt just as good with some of their techniques, i was counting them as taunters.

[Nadyxes]

I just wondering if someone is pld.....why dont they use their magic
I was in a pt with 2 whms no other mages in the pt
The pt was great and all however me and the other whm had to rest during the battle
like he would rest first like when his mp was around 100
i will take heal until i have 0 mp and then he would get up and heal
.....i think if a person is a pld they should help out healing if the battle is that intense
i am not sure
opinions?

[dbeeo]

they(pld) should. but most of time, those tanker who has whm sub or as pld, willonly) do healing after battle.... wonder why they wont save mp for emergency use???

[Sheila]

Far: you have yet to see an Elvaan bard who got oneshotted >< BRD past 20 should never tank

Teleports+dezone+escape, if the leader cant figure his way out of a dungeon and doesn't have the map, its his fault. Always make sure you can do without those spells. What if the mage dropped and can't return?

Mages dont need armor. I wore level 12 armor until lv28-30ish. Mage armor does NOT make a difference. If you are getting hit successively, you're in danger anyway.

That thing about PLDs is weird, some cure themselves non stop (even after saying "let us take care of it"), overlapping with the actual WHM curing, some save for emergency, yet at higher levels some think they should "magic break" with their Holy spell.

I can't stand it when WHMs and PLDs think its important to MB for a piddly amount of damage and a high amount of MP, while BLMs and RDMs can do more than double that damage for half the cost. Also when WHMs blast their MP on holy (or worse, banish/banish2), it means more rest time between battle and loosing chain.

[Painkiller]

Player who have to do WS combination but:
- don't know <tp> macro
- tell his/her TP from 0% to 100% every 5 seconds
- has the lowest TP and never try to gain more when others already reached 100%
- already reached 100% TP and taunt monster from someone who try to build up TP...

Player who play PLD but:
- don't know how to save PT's member with his 2 hours "Invincible" ability in emergency case
- waste your MP with Holy magic!
- use cure,II,III in normal fight (let's mage do their job!)
- never use cure,II,II in tough fight or liked monster
- forgot about shield-bash and use two hand sword when fight magic type monster...

[xenoneo]

lol yeah,
It's good to be informed about working with a party before you join one.

BTW...
PainKiller, did you play PristonTale?
I had a good buddy with your name in that game. :biggrin:

-XenoNeo

[Extreme]

New thing:

A JP player (cough Giogio cough) asking to be invited into a 5 person eng player PT. Then proceeds to aggro over a leech in the oasis when we're in the middle of a battle. Then proceeds to leave the PT, and run away. And of course when u aggro one leech... u end up with 5 on you. :mad: :mad:

[DJplaeskool]

Originally posted by Tomoh
- PT ending when you're @400 for the next level. @100 happened once:mad:


Arg!
That's really the only thing that pisses me off...

That and KNOWING jp p33ps in PT are talking about you...and you can't understand most of it.

[tongyang]

Originally posted by Extreme
New thing:

A JP player (cough Giogio cough) asking to be invited into a 5 person eng player PT. Then proceeds to aggro over a leech in the oasis when we're in the middle of a battle. Then proceeds to leave the PT, and run away. And of course when u aggro one leech... u end up with 5 on you. :mad: :mad:

Did you guys find him afterwards and ask him what happened? Because this is exactly what he should have done, leave PT while bringing the whole group of monsters he aggroed away from the rest of the PT. In other words, to sacrifice so that other people won't be hurt.

I don't know the exact situation of the whole thing, so I may be off case, but this happened before to in a PT of mine.

[Bebetaro]

When you are THAT close to leveling up, some nice players/party will play for an extra 15-20 mins to help you level up if you inform them politely. I was in a party once and 2 members had to leave when I was 300exp away from leveling up. The remaining 3 members actually stayed around and we fought easy monsters till I leveled. I was so touched that I ended up went and helped them get their AFs afterwards. :)

Regarding the taunting and leaving party, that happened to me before also at Davoi. Our party leader taunted all 3 Orc onto him and left party while the rest of us ran the opposite direction. That way, the monsters may become neutral in case the taunter dies. It's a brave way for someone to sacrifice his/her life to save the whole party. :sweat:

[Awntawn]

When the monster gets too strong or links so you tell ur PT to run, but you know you won't reach zone in time so you run one way to sacrifice yourself so the mages can escape, but the mages run in the SAME GODDAMN DIRECTION :sweat:

[Seulgaist]

This isnt as much of a bother but still gets annoying...I cant stand it when you're involved in the renkei and there's always one person that never reports their TP. Like when we're fighting a totetote, and I have 150%, another has 175%, but the last guy just never says anything. By the time the battle is over and the pt almost gets its ass kicked, up pops the message 220%.

I'm thinking, "You fu-kin retard, we coulda kicked that monster's ass!"

I dont give a sh-t if you have .0005% TP. Always report it. Everyone needs to know what state you're at.

[Jei]

PLD healing, is not bad. if they know the right time to sit down and recover MP without wasting their TP.....

if there's a BRD in the PT, all tanks can spent MP as much as they want ;)

[Extreme]

Originally posted by tongyang


Did you guys find him afterwards and ask him what happened? Because this is exactly what he should have done, leave PT while bringing the whole group of monsters he aggroed away from the rest of the PT. In other words, to sacrifice so that other people won't be hurt.

I don't know the exact situation of the whole thing, so I may be off case, but this happened before to in a PT of mine.

Naw, didnt see em, he logged afterwards ><

[Sheila]

The "sacrifice/zone" trick doesnt work if your party is near.

Even if you leave party and bring the train with you somewhere, the train will still go back to the party after you zone/die.

Urg I also hate when people dont spam their TP, usually theyre lazy or doing other things outside game/LS chat while even battling. Sometimes you even have to ASK for it.

And if you want to lv up before ending party, just ask. I"ve had parties stay an hour extra for me because of new important spell/equip to wear. Most people will agree to stay if its only a little.

[TBoTB]

--when whm casts holy blessing (i think) to save pt and the monster aggro's u relentlessly (they hate holy blessing with passion) and no one taunts

-- when whm consentrait onhealing themselves when getting hit instead of other pt members that can save them *applies when more than one whm in pt, or more than 2 taunters in pt to save*

-- when pt goes and attacks next monster without letting whm refill mp, then wonders why half pt dead cuz whm ran out of mp *applies when only one whm in pt*

[Awntawn]

There's gotta be limits to staying tho... Like one guy's @400, then after that guy levels about to break but then someone else is like "oh, but now i'm @300..." so after that guy levels someone else is "oh, now i'm @100..." and in the end u end up staying for a lot more than just "a little"? :sweat:

Hasn't happened for more than a "chain" of 2 for me before, but I was kinda wondering wouldn't it suck for the 6th person if it went on for 5 people? Bleh I'm not making any sense here am I? :p

Another thing I hate. Just forming a PT and suddenly having a RL call away from the comp/PS2 :mad: I mean it's like, give me a 2 hour warning before we're going somewhere dammit :mad: lol

[Sheila]

Originally posted by TBoTB
--when whm casts holy blessing (i think) to save pt and the monster aggro's u relentlessly (they hate holy blessing with passion) and no one taunts



taunt wont work for this..

[Semih Neridia]

the thing that can save whitemage after she/he used that blessing, is Paladin's Invinsible, probably something else too, but I don't know. I only know that Paladin's invinsible can create the more hate degree toward monster.

[Awntawn]

What if a DRK pulls a Last Resort > Darkness?

[Jei]

just today i got in PT. We made a 5 people PT but couldn't find any WHM >_< ..... we stay in jeuno for 3 hours, no WHM shows up at all until finally the PT just broke. T-T

[dbeeo]

yesterday really not a good day for PT. The first time jueno has only around 100 ppl in low and everyone go to sleep ><


When you try to go to monster spawning place for lvling, a high lvl character clear all the field to make money and you cant find any monster there

[Cedric-Archaon]

Originally posted by Awntawn
What if a DRK pulls a Last Resort > Darkness?

Won't work. Goddess Blessing should be renamed "Kill me please, Mr. Monster."

[Seishi]

-One thing I hate most is pt making a thief equip 1h sword and use Red Lotus in the renkei. :mad:
-And thief doesn't know he has deceiving attack (lv25 active ability), when he's a lv29.(pted last night)
-When a warrior go out to fish and come back with less than 100HP all the time (happended last night with evil weapon in sauromogue):mad:
-Warriors who don't taunt because he's afk and go to the bathroom during battle.

[tongyang]

Originally posted by Seishi
--And thief doesn't know he has deceiving attack (lv25 active ability), when he's a lv29.(pted last night)

It's a lv30 ability ;)

At lv25 thieves learn tonzura, not deceiving attack ;)

[Sheila]

People who lot in for items they weren't battling for, or were barely involved in getting, nor even need. They just lotted in cause they want everything.

[TBoTB]

Originally posted by Cedric-Archaon


Won't work. Goddess Blessing should be renamed "Kill me please, Mr. Monster."

ROFLMAO:spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:

its so true ;)

[dbeeo]

your japanese PT misunderstanding what you say
you dont know how to express it in japanese(the worst) :mad:

fortunately, the misunderstanding wasnt the bad misunderstanding. just for me, i said i g2g after 30 mins, and they thought i will leave 5:30 or something else.... after that, they all agree with me(they thought so) and leave together(not after 30mins, but immediately). oh well, I felt abit sorry to them due to my poor japanese knowledge.:sweat:

[Seph]

I dont think whm should ever run during link. In davoi where the dragoons live PT memeber aggro 5 of them on him i had to run to his aide and use angel bless and then run my butt to the exit. I think me running for safety is a failure as whm my first duty is to protect my warriors even if he aggros TT saved many lives using this tactic and luckly got away with my hide. Wish i could always have a PT with a Bard they rock. At the same time whm have to becareful with the angel bless sometimes it must become Angel Self TT and run TT.... Depeneds on sitiuation i feel bad bout the banish i try to use it just once to lvl u skill. After reading this i stopped. Thx for the info !! Good to know peoples opinons, ^^

[Nadyxes]

I completely agree seph
whms do not run
or if enemies have area attacks do not stand close

like i normally would whip out my staff on certain enemies ie bats, orcs, and etc....
however enemies like a gazer in eldeime ~i dont stand near them the do an area attack that does like 100 damage to all

I hate it when whms stand near the enemy knowing the enemy can do area attack and their weapon is not whipped out
i can understand if they stand there fighting but they are not attacking

thus , the whm would have to cure themselves while i had to cure the pt because of the area attack ~ its dumb that the whm doesnt realize what enemies can do

and whms dont run expect when a link of enemies come ~then everyone runs

[Sting]

ok, i have read alot ^^
anyway, i dont realy hate something in ffxi, if pt is bad,then its bad, cant do anything about it ^^

i read a little about PLD and his/her mp.
Well....
I always try to save my MP for times when its getting realy hard, when the whm is in trouble must heal but dont have much MP left, or two player need heal at same time, then i do a little healing too or ....if taunt not works, since WAR AF i somehow have realy hard time to get monster look at me when using taunt ><,but must get monster look at me, then i use Cure4 hate rate will go up, and monste attack me ^^

The thing about God Blessing Ability of WHM, if WHM must use it, not even my Invincibility Ability works always, sometime it do but most times not ; ; at this point i try get between monster and WHM and using my Protect ability on WHM so i get damage instat of WHM, most times its enough time, after Protect Ability run out taunt or Cure4 work again.

Thats the way i play, i try always get monster look at me, even if there is another taunter in PT. And im always the last PT Member who change zone if monster a linked and we have to run, even if it means that i have to use my Invincibility Ability or that i have to die^^

[Auron6]

i hate when ppl get into a bad pt, and then if we all die that person flips out, and calls the pt stupid or the worst pt ever...making them seem like an know it all, or the best player in the whole game or soemthing:mad: :mad:


i hate how ppl dont know how to use their taunts and i end up being the only one using it and then dying....:mad: :mad: :mad:


i hate when whm arent on top of their game in a pt and they dont know how to do their damn job and they dont heal fast enough especially when there are like three warriors that taunted the enemy to save the other player with low hp and the stupid whm still doesnt catch on that it needs to do its just and HEAL!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


i hate how ronafaure forest is so damn long, it takes forever to get to sandoria from thiene and vice-versa:mad:

i hate how i dont have a chocobo (nearing it soon tho ^_^)
:sweat:


i hate some of these jp ppl, i ask them to PT and they say "no im sorry, i have to go to bed" or "no i have to logout" and then like 5 minutes later i see them in a PT!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


sigh:(

[Semih Neridia]

...you do know that there is a time delay between each shot of cure, right?

This is probably your problem

1. Not enough whitemage to heal
2. Your PT attepmt on fighting some monster that is not suitable for your PT (not level, but the job in your PT)

[matek]

Things that really pissed me off:

- People who only give you "tell" msg when they try to ask for helps and hints.
Do I look like Seven Eleven? stop using "lol" when you are begging ppls' help!

- Party leaders that don't know how to lead a party, absolutely no own opinions or can't make decisions.
You learnt nothing from your past experience? Then "!" at the corner of Jueno!

- Ppl who asked you to join his party and pass you the leadership once you are in, asking you to be the leader and collect remaining members.
WTF are you doing? If you do not wanna be a leader, DON'T BE ONE! Go sit at the corner and wait for ppl to invite you!

- Ppl who joined into party and levelup after 2 fights, making the whole party earning only 50-60 exp every fight.
Go get till the next Fxxxing level by solo before you join!:mad:

[Yuna]

The things I hate most when a

WHM:
- The PT's BLM thinking his blazespike will help alot in battle and thus tanks along.
- Using your 2 HR special and dying cos of hate.
- Waiting for PT

BLM:
- Casting a simple Darkness spell and then having the monster attack you.
- Having the sub WHMs cast BLM spells.
- Telling your PT you have sleep and can use it when monster links but they end up waking the monster straight away.
- Finding out your next level spell cost 8,000 gil and you only have 2,000.
- Having to cure the PT cos the WHM has d/c and there is no other who can.
- Running of MP then having to cast again as soon as you have enough MP cos your PT tanks keep missing.
- Going to fight in Battalia with a PT at LV24 and DYING
- having a spell interrupted cos you moved the pad slightly.

Things that are LIKED:

- Being saved by a WHM when you are so close to dying.
- Being resurrected.
- Having a PT that can kill totemo monster while you're re-gaining MP so you don't have to help. (Lazy)
- Having a PT with a strong smart leader.
- getting invited into a PT of 5
- dezone
- patience of japanese people


Things I need to know when playing BLM:

1. does the spell "Darkness" help at all at LV24++?
2. does weakness help?

[Zoey]

Things I hate:
1> MOSt annoying thing in the whole game when whms still casting blind/slow etc. when the monster has like 3 hits left to kill. Slowing down next battle. 2>When in a pt the fisher comes back with half hp and the whm does a few weakening spells instead of curing first and they get in red.
IN ws they dont say when they are starting or <Call> something. and I'm in middle of casting magic and miss it;;
Taunters who do taunt. dah
Paladins/ drks who dont use any magic when mages completely out and monster is almost dead and so are we. even if they might have weak skills it would be better than nothing.
When fisher accidently brings back links and we fight instead running or casting escape/ teleport and we die.
When you buying something in AH one day and next its a few k cheaper;; Or when you buy something and need to sell back get alot less;;
When fighter classes complain they are poor. THey should be richer than any mage/bard having only clothes / weapons to buy.
WHy !! Why !! I cant find the stupid RSE chest Ive had the key for a few weeks and whenever I go it doesnt pop. <waits long time too>
Orcish Droughtnaught<--- needs revenge I died in 2 hits
<never explore in davoi>
What I like:
ZOey is a stone wall. In pts monster hardly go after me even if I'm the only healer. :)
Playing.
THe airship
Dezone... why didnt I get it sooner.
Most of the people I play with seem to be very nice.
In my pt other day in crawlers the fisher brought back 3 workers and disconnected from the PT so we all didnt die.
People who know what to do.

[dbeeo]

When you want to sell an item and go to check the price. After checking the price you accidentally choose the second option menu(still in buying menu) and buy the item. And the item is a few k gils and you didnt need it either ><

[Jonnyram]

1. Blackouts
2. People who moan about ANY race/class or job/subjob combination.
3. My nightly d/c :(

[Nodachi]

well since my comp is in shyt condition right now - i dc about every other Map change i go through - i hope to have my comp serviced by the end of the weekend/early next week but till then imma have to say the frequent DCs and long loading times in the POL menus heh. Graphically its gorgeous and my specs should make this game run perfecly >< flippin comp ><

[neoshock]

Originally posted by Awntawn
Accidentally joining a PT with a high level difference and can't leave as a courtesy :mad: Dooming the next 3 hours to low exp.


Oohh, that made me a lotta money before, joined a pt levelling up my whm, it was about 3am, so not so many ppl were on, and I joined a pt, 15war 14monk ... and me, 10whm... damn... even worse? 15 war was a 13yr old... awake at 3am on a wednesday, when he had school the next day, obviously tired.. and DIDNT know how to taunt><;;... wanna know the good thing? the monk, she was really nice about it, and when the boy left, she gave me 40,000 gil as a sorry present^^

p.s (the money went to buying me lotsa magic, hehe)


Originally posted by Yuna
Things I need to know when playing BLM:

1. does the spell "Darkness" help at all at LV24++?
2. does weakness help?

Darkness helps when... you have 5 mp left and your enemy is already poisoned, lol...
and if you don't have rasp^^

Time for my few...

-=-Mages that don't know how to get OUT OF AN AREA ATTACK!!

-=-Level30+ players that don't know the basics.

-=-Black Mages that don't use the ‚¶‚킶‚í type attacks (Rasp, Bio, Choke, etc) because they think they're weak... (Lvl25, use Rasp on a Sabertooth Tiger and they can't hit anything after maybe 3 attacks!!)

-=- De-zone in the Jeuno auctions (the server I'm on, not Ragnarok^^; ) went from 7,500 to 13,000 and hasn't come down since!!!

-=- I'm sorry, might seem anti-social for this but I really HATE teaching newbie's unless they are good at learning, I've spent my time teaching about 30+ new ppl now... maybe 4 of them were good at thing, the rest don't even understand the basics... (and I spend time lazing around!!)

-=- Those annoying ppl that sell rares in auctions for lower prices, the prices you can sell them for drops!><

-=-(Just a lil one, nothing serious^^; black mages that that macro every attack magic with a message... it's sometimes entertaining... at the beggining, but using the macro takes more time that selecting it on the menu and you dunno the re-use time ...)

Thing's I love...

-=- My LS members... Someone that gives me 20,000 without a second thought ;_;... I love those guys...

-=- My LS members... I know I hate teaching newbies... but they took me under their wing when I was new... and they made me the great (or so I hope) player that I am now^^

-=- High level players... When they're bored anyway^^...
eg 1: They may go NM hunting and give you the items they don't need^^ (at level 15, items that sell straight away for 1,000 help alot^^ --> Tremor Ram(and Rampaging Ram) ---> their fur^^)

eg2: Power levelling! (You might know about this from the manga... if it's up^^; When high level players help you level against tough monsters without being in your pt)

-=- Lovely ppl that sell rares in auctions for 1gil... ok ok, another contradiction, but I know it's useful^^

[dbeeo]

when it comes to a day before weekends, you pc/ps2 break down >< :mad: :mad: :mad:

its happen to me now:mad:

[Razz]

I absolutely HATE being the tank as DRK. ESPECIALLY if they want me to be involved in WS combos. I just want to nuke with black magic inbetween the long delay time of melee attacks....grr.....:mad:

Just today, I was in a PT that had more MP altogether than you could shake a stick at, and guess what? the DRK/WAR (me?) had to be the tank....sigh....people should think about balancing PTs when recruiting rather than inviting the first 5 WHMs they see on the list....

Japanese players who kick you or do not join you purely because you can't speak much Japanese....people everywhere know how to use a WS and such and such, why does it really matter if you can't describe your mother's underwear in kanji? It's not like THEY talk much, is it?! But then, on the whole, I love Japanese people...:sweat:

[Tomoh]

Razz, you have to be considered a tank if you are DRK/WAR. I play DRK/RDM from time to time and I've always considered myself a semi-tank.

I hate being asked to both healer and participate in WS as RDM. I prefer to be one or the other.

[xeu]

Originally posted by Razz
Japanese players who kick you or do not join you purely because you can't speak much Japanese....people everywhere know how to use a WS and such and such, why does it really matter if you can't describe your mother's underwear in kanji? It's not like THEY talk much, is it?! But then, on the whole, I love Japanese people...:sweat:

/amen

[kokopuphz]

Things I don't like:

A lot of what people have stated already in this thread... amen

also:
WHM/BLM characters who don't cure but keep using Black Magic in PTs

BLM/WHM characters who don't use Black Magic much, but concentrate more on healing everybody, even when there are other WHM characters who end up sitting the entire length of the extremely long battle because of the lack of Black Magic use....

WAR who don't use Chohatsu at all...

People who think that having higher levelled WHM in the PT is a good thing, where as in actuallity, the WHM should either be the same as the front line, or one level below..

Etc etc.. Oh yeah, one other thing.. LS leaders who uses the LS only to boast how much gil he has, or how high his level is, and try to make other LS members feel like crap, and don't help others with their missions and quests but expect them to help him simply because he's the leader... (Oh yeah, i threw that piece of crap Link Pearl away)

[Semih Neridia]

Error 250 <-----really...please, no more...

While you are in PT and you got Error 250, when you tried to connect back in again...you have to download another patch, thus, making your PT wait for your return.

[Sheila]

Originally posted by Razz
I absolutely HATE being the tank as DRK. ESPECIALLY if they want me to be involved in WS combos. I just want to nuke with black magic inbetween the long delay time of melee attacks....grr.....:mad:

Just today, I was in a PT that had more MP altogether than you could shake a stick at, and guess what? the DRK/WAR (me?) had to be the tank....sigh....people should think about balancing PTs when recruiting rather than inviting the first 5 WHMs they see on the list....

Japanese players who kick you or do not join you purely because you can't speak much Japanese....people everywhere know how to use a WS and such and such, why does it really matter if you can't describe your mother's underwear in kanji? It's not like THEY talk much, is it?! But then, on the whole, I love Japanese people...:sweat:

Um, what are you complaining about? A DRK/WAR (aka normal and proper job combination for DRK) will end up tanking from time to time. Though the idea is that they are the last in line of armored melee to tank.

What is wrong with tanking and participating in renkei? Is it *that difficult*? Not only do you protect others when their HP drops or when support characters are targetted, you get more TP than usual.

If you want to use black magic, play a Black Mage.

The effectiveness of a DRK's magic isnt worth resting MP for between battles, nor will it "nuke" anything.

Then, complaining about being invited into "crap parties" isn't worth doing, if you hate the parties you get, form your own.

Furthermore, if anyone has been kicked supposedly because they don't know japanese, then they surely have done something really wrong/bad to deserve it. I've never seen foreigners get kicked from parties, even after making multitudes of mistakes/not following instructions.

The not inviting JP EN flagged players thing has become a trend apparently. I remember Neridia saying someone of exact job and level was chosen over her because she had JP EN on her flag.

But the players have good reason to (possible language barrier and other difficulty) after what I've seen in Jueno. Seen = english shouts, seen = foreign players getting bad name cause not following instructions or understanding others. People are scared. I thought by the time people got to Jueno, they figured out this isn't an english game.

[Razz]

Well if you think I'm a bad player then trust me I ain't. I have an excellent session 90% of the time with Japanese PTs, and if you think I am an idiot noob english player who doesn't know the rules, then you're wrong. My Japanese has significantly improved since playing FFXI and has even inspired me to take lessons, but I just hate it when on the odd occasion, there is a case of xenophobia. I can understand that I guess since US people aren't too keen in playing with JP players anyway...

As regards to DRK tanking; at first I wanted to rape my MP every fight but things can't be like that, especially against totetote monsters, and no, WS combos aren't hard, you don't have to be an uber leet Ragnarok player to do those....

[matek]

Right way to use DRK's magics in PARTY FIGHT:

- Poison, Bio etc to weaken enemies at the very begining of battle (if there is already a RDM in your party, leave it to him)
- Use Aspril to such monster's MP when yours is low
- Cast Sleep when linked
- Althought only litle damage, do magic burst after the combo.

Things that PARTY MEMBERS don't like a DRK does in PT:
- Always sit and heal, wasting TP for not so powerful DRK attack spells. (Heal only if yout TP is lower than 10%)
- DO NOT AWARE HIMSELF AS A DRK not BLM

Remember, if you wanna get along with a party, what you should do is follow thier style. If you wanna cast offensive magic like mad, go raise BLM/WHM.

[Killjoy]

So far from playing and from reading this thread:

1. People who talk about importers as if they're scum, though the complainers are importers themselves. Oh, the irony! Did you just conveniently forget that you imported the game, or in your little reality do you actually pretend you're in Japan?

2. People who complain about those who are new to the game, and who are still learning. Newsflash: you were an idiot once too. Helping will do more to change the situation than whining. This is Common Sense speaking to you live via the Internet. Tune in more often.

3. People who expect others to adapt to their play-style, but who themselves refuse to adapt. No one likes a snob. Group majority rules. Have fun playing all alone. Bye now!

Finally the last one, though this is more funny than irritating (it links back to point #1, really) -

4. Overheard in an importer LS, spoken by an importer: "I only group with importers on special occasions."
You know those pictures that ask, "How many things do you see wrong here?" and you observe all sorts of things that are out of whack? This is remarkably similar.

[Sheila]

Get this straight. Matek and I aren't saying WE ARE LEET PLAYERS AND YOU ARE A NOOB.

We are teaching the more proper way to play DRK in a party, because apparently you have had problems with people and were going the wrong way.

add to matek:
-Bind sometimes helps when the monster is moving too much, even if it lasts a short time. However, spells as DRK have low low success rate or lasting time, even with maxed to skill cap.
-Want MP as DRK and have a BRD in party? Go join near the mages for when ballad is played.

DRK should never cast non stop during battle, because they will be wearing slow 2h weapons. Every swing counts at a chance for a good amount of TP.

[Awntawn]

oooh, now that it's brought up, I could use some advice ^^

Other than Bio and Poison, I can't seem to hit anything effect spells like bind or aspil because my DRK magic skills are like half the caps :( Am I expected to have them as high as possible? Is there an easier way to cap them up without switching to BLM? Or should I worry about it later? :confused:

Also, is there a way to know that Bio effectively effects the monster? Or does it always effect? And what exactly does it do, other than the same thing as poison? Anything else?

Also, I try magic bursting after the renkei, but it only does half the damage of my swing. Am I better off just waiting for a swing?

And do mages not like it when DRK's berserk > Darkness > Last Resort > Slice when assigned slice or hard slash in the renkei? I've found it works quite well as it does like 2x the damage (so far up to where I am) and keeps the monster looking at me long enough for the thief to fuidama. I can get it all cancelled before the monster hits me more than once (occasionally a second hit will slip in :sweat: ). JP players are usually nice enough to keep bad comments to themselves, but how do they really think? Does it piss them off?

Thanks~

--------------------
More Hates:

The extreme lag in Batallia after the recent patch that starts at around 2 to 3PM JST that turns FFXI's battle-system into a turn-based system.

Having another DRK of the same level online and looking for PT, but with just JP instead of JP EN on, meaning they're more likely to get the invite. I know I could just put JP on, but it would be dishonest cuz my JP's not good enough to back that up :( Yes, that's what we all hate. Competition :mad:

Other people farming for the same items as you at ridiculous times. It's 10AM here, 3AM over there, go to sleep damn you :p (j/k)

Error 250 - Amen Neri (--ƒ?)

NG Alliance missions where the people don't know how to wait for people that are healing...

Those same missions where someone ends up dying because they left the escort behind...

Accompanying a group up to the elevator of Delfutt for M9 then realizing you left your key in the mog :eek: (Thanks soooo much nady~)

[Sheila]

Poison - better magic skill level, longer last and better success. will say if success

Bio - always success. longer last if better magic level, will say if runs out. same as Dia

Aspel - only works on magic using monster. more mp and more success if better magic level

BLM is best way to level all the necessary skills up

Magic burst as DRK will always be tiny damage.

mages not like:
If they have the MP plus there's two WHMs or 2 doing healing and you have a macro to warn, then should be ok. It is near impossible for one WHM to keep up with healing all that HP without using cure4.

Last resort + berserk is good enough.

People normally save Darkness for ending a battle that has continued too long after the renkei, not for the WS Renkei.

They keep bad comments to themselves: yes so true >_>

[palin]

Just somethings to add on dark. Dark can be a very good magic user when those magic user jobs player go back to play it (ie, rdm, whm or blm) whm will have pretty low ˆÃ?• & ?¸—ì–‚–@ though.

For example, if we have a 50 elvaan blm/whm and 50 hume dark/war.

The stats will be:
50 elvaan blm/whm 50 hume dark/war
int 48 47
Žã‘Ì–‚–@ 142 142
?¸—ì–‚–@ 153 147
ˆÃ?•–‚–@ 153 153
(assumed maxed)
The reason for chossing elvaan blm is because they have the lowest int and hume dark coz its common :). Taru dark will have higher int of coz :) but they die too often if the whm is not careful.
I once PTed with a 33 taru Dark/war who did a constant 100-150 MB damage to orc.

Have fun casting spells during battle, but don't waste too much mp if there isnt a bard in the PT ^^;

palin

[Evoada]

i guess we all have the same problems...

since the last FFXI update it has been nearly impossible to level up in garlaige...we always get black screens..or massive disconnects..(im on gilgamesh server)

the thing i hate the most is the updates..every time they make something harder..and then they spend the next 3 months making other updates to sort out what they did:sweat:

other thing is japanese player who asks me (PLD53) if i know how to renkei...

last but not least is the magical aura you have when you get over lv 50 that tells everyone around you in those lvs too to RUN because you might ask for help for AF.....:( im getting to a point where i dont even say hello to anyone (joke..well sort of)

its funny to see how all lv 60 players say AF is sooo hard but they all have it...:)

i have a question: Is it just me or is it harder to raise weapon skill since the last update? (the one where RDM got regen)

some japanese players have been telling me that, and when i tried to skill up my spear even monsters of my level didnt give me anything.. (my spear is at 98 and i was fighting lich..)

[matek]

Man I still remember the days when we first found out weak enemies' hit rate are hella high and did big damage, and the lastest patch that made us accumulate tiny 2Tps then 10TP when got hit. Really pissed lots of playes off on the first few days.(lol)

[tongyang]

Oh yeah, especially to all the Paladins that were used to getting TPs by only getting hit... ^^;

But now I love Paladins :D Thief and Paladin are Ranger's best friends ^^

[Razz]

Something which I dislike is the way you don't recieve any messages in a channel if you zone at the time it was posted. Anyone else feel the same?

I also am getting fed up of the same set of enemies just different names approach. Fed up of oh so many hares etc. But then I'm used to the same approach in other games...

[Kid Atomic]

The rate of skilling up your weapon has been reduced. Say good bye to ever seeing your Weapon Skill level BLUE ever again. Thanks to the People at square, we will never raise our weapon skill. Every one is Upset about this on my Server. If enough people complain, maybe Square might change it back. Personally, I thought it was LOW ENOUGH as it was, what does anyone else think?? :confused:

[Deli]

U need to hit the 'right' monster to skill up. If ur weapon skill is lower than it should be, fight weaker monsters.

[Nodachi]

Lol please don't be affraid to ask me to party with you after reading this post but - lately (i know im very very new and all but) people (most of which ive never met) /t me asking if i wana party. I think yeah maybe sure and they're like 4 or 5 levels sometimes further away from me - i dun see why people want to party for the sake of saying they're in a party is what i'm trying to say heh. I find that i not only level a whole lot quicker soloing but make a great deal more G on my own as well. Now dun get me wrong nuthing is as fun as partying with a group of people, seeing new areas, taking on tough enemies, yata yata but whut is so wrong with occasionally soloing heh?

[Evoada]

Nodachi-->i think its good to solo while you still can..

its possible to "effectively solo up to lv 16..(although it gets hard at that level..)

Kid Atomic-->actually its very strange because i'm at 168 with one hand sword and when i level up i go up to blue very fast..

Deli--> what do you mean ''the right monster"?

[Deli]

Originally posted by Evoada
Deli--> what do you mean ''the right monster"?

For example, if u stopped lvling 1h sword at around lv30. and u are now lv50. If u try lvlling ur 1h sword on a lv50 monsters, u will still up skill. U may get up-skill of 0.5, but the problem is that u will hardly hit. So it will take a longer time. I find that it is better to use my 1hs on lv30++ monsters even if it doesnot give exp.
To up skill, u have to hit the monster. So it is easy to up the weapon that is best for the job. This is wat i meant, but if u will refering to up weapon skill from the previous blue lvl to the new blue lvl, then i find that it is still the same as b4.:)

[Evoada]

oh i see!!

hmm i guess i will try to lv up my staff on evil weapon rather than orcish predator ect..

if i recall correctly evil weapon is a monster that you kill in your early 30s:biggrin:

thanx for the tip:handsdown

oh just to get back on topic i dont know if its the same for everyone but do you have some LV that seem to last for ever???

i'm starting to think i'll never be 54:mad:

every time i get a party i do about 1500 exp and die..and for some reason i'm always in that awfull situation of having to go back to juno with no raise:confused:

last night i saved party with my invincible..and i died while the WHM was doing teleport..so i was left alone and dead in the abyss of crawlnest:dead:

basically no exp..

please tell me im not the only one!!!!!!!!!;)

[Sheila]

That skill up thing is really driving me crazy, last night I spent some time soloing raku enemies with a low weapon. The skill still barely went up, unlike before it would shoot up and catch up to my normal weapons.

Must be hell with range weapons now, around 50 arrows and no skill up at all.

Evoada it sounds like you are joining parties that aren't properly prepared to level in those spots.

[Evoada]

indeed...my party was the late night cobbled up type..1 WHM, 1WAR, 1THF, 1DRK, 1PLD, 1 MNK....

the hilarious thing was that the guys told me that i would be healer and that i wasnt supposed to hit..and they didn't assign me a ws..

now i know i was the only one who could heal..but couldn't we have waited a little more and taken a RDM..i have only 178 mp..so it was nearly impossible to be effective..

the leader decided to take on tote tote beetles..and even do 3 combos..which we did until we got the inevitable link..
the scary thing is that even when i tried to hit the beetles we were fighting i missed all the time (its funny because i just added +3 in dex and it seems as though i hit even less then before..)
anyways i saved the party by doing my invincible ability while the whm did teleport..except he got hit or moved or something:mad:

and since he had to cast teleport again..i couldn't cure myself with 2 beetles on me (the pt was taunting like mad..)..i died and they teleported to latheine..leaving me alone:sweat:

now i wont leave ever leave without a BRD in pt:mad: :mad:

Sheila the days of getting 30 or 40 points in 1h30 are over:dead:

the strange thing is that i tried almost all difficulty of monsters..and its always the same..no skill up..

[Semih Neridia]

Skill up sucks...waste 3 stack of arrows, to raise 1 measly bow skill. Very nasty to ranger, this skill up thingy...

[Evoada]

you mean 3 stacks of 99 arrows?? for 1 point...??:confused:

why cant they think a little before they do things like that..

i'm sure this is way out of proportion for RNG, because it makes it really harder and more costly..

oh by the way isn't bow and boomerang in the same skill category?

which means you could switch to boomerang when you want to skill up..(i really dont know much about all this since i didn't start RNG yet):angel:

[Deli]

This Skill up thingy: maybe the stuff earlier i said was incorrect. Cos Skye was saying it was hard to skill-up his scthye. I was in valkurn skilling up my bomerang skill on damselfly. it went from 33 to 41 in like 3 hours. Maybe some weapons are harder to lvl.

Bomerang is throw skill. Bow and Gun/crossbow are two other skills.

[matek]

If you wanna skill up, fight monster which are same or stronger than you and your skill will go up fast. Shooting arrows on low level monsters won't help coz each monster has a skill limit set, your skill will never go upon the limit level if it reaches the max skill level of that monster.

[Yuna]

WHY I WON'T JOIN AN IMPORTER (NG) PARTY NORMALLY
1. They are not patient.
2. They are not patient.
3. They are not patient.

I once was invited to join an all importer PT... walked all the way back to town changed job to suit the level and was heading there then half way I get a /tell "sorry. we got someone else" :dead: :dead: :mad: :dead: :dead:

i told those bastards i was going to take awhile and they said it was okay. if i disconnected with a Jap party, they would wait until i was back. when the lag and d/c was bad in quifim. two members of my jap pt kept getting d/ced but we waited for them for about 30 mins.

also, i hate PTs that think 5 members is better than 6 and go off and kill very very strong monsters.... with alot of trouble :dead:

[Tomoh]

Yuna, I do agree with you that importers can be inpatient, but let's not generalize and single out NG. 1~2 bad experience with several NG members should not reflect on all members.

Also, many praise the Japanese players and they are great and courteous most of the time, but I have had several bad experiences with bad (play and behavior) Japanese players.

[Yuna]

yeah :sweat: :sweat:
i was exaggerating
when the right NG people PT with me. it's the best playing time.

but i haven't met bad behaved japanese players as yet

[Tomoh]

You are lucky. My Japanese LS keep a list of blacklisted players, all Japanese. Some of bad behaviors I've personally experienced playing with a Japanese players are:

1. WHM refusing to heal RDM saying RDM heal themselves.
2. PT member who leave without any advance notice.
3. PT member who leave after 30 min because he doesn't like the PT.
4. Players critical of importers.
5. Players critical (in a bad way) of PT members play.

[Semih Neridia]

Yeah, matek, I been fighting those tote-totetote monster to raise bow skill(well...as a ranger...90% of my attack are from bow anyway~).

However though, today waste 2 stacks of 99, but able to raise 2 skill level is not too bad~. Did they fix it?

[tongyang]

For me, I love to be in fights where you charge TP by fighting weaker enemies, to take on totetote enemies. For example, in Sauromougue, charge TP on beetles and fight Evil Weapons when we're charged up.

This way I can switch to my crossbow and skill up and then switch back to long bow to fight the weapons :biggrin: