American FFXI Players = @*%)!*

[Black Heart]

There are many people like myself who have waited years to play FFXI. People who didn't have the chance or desire to import it. Who have waited patiently with the hope of going to a new server in Final Fantasy XI with their friends, exploring new places, showing off their new armors and weapons, forming large Linkshells with their friends, and adventuring in Vana'Diel.

How does Square repay this patience and desire for their game? By depriving many players of what they really want and basically saying "Fuck you."
The reason? Not putting up any new servers for the US release. Even making one single new server would have solved the problems that many people are having, but Square didn't give a damn. Now if you want to get all your friends on the same server you have to wait for them to level up to buy 1000+gil world passes, or suck up to other players for the money to do it.
If you want to explore new places that no one else has, or be the highest level person, or start one of the first Linkshells on your server, guess what? You can't.
Ohh? I thought the game was just released? It has, but Square decided to screw us over and take away the BEST segment and freedom of an MMORPG. The ability to explore and pioneer a game world and play with your friends.

I had waited nearly 3 years to play this game, and now Square Enix has ruined it and betrayed my, and many other people's trust. So I say fuck this, I am not paying for this god damn rip-off of a game.

[Hibiki]

good.
one less idiot to deal with. :thumbsup:
This information isn't something new.

[christophe]

life can be hard sometimes...

[Vairu]

go play something else then, most likely you wouldn't be the first one to explore a certain place or start the first "linkshell" anyhow, it's always someone else. Deal with it, are you the first person to explore some place in this world? I know that everywhere i've been someone else most likely has been before :), and i could care less cause i'm there now :cool:

[Vay]

Damn skippy! I'm with black heart!

Mostly because to play I will have to buy a new video card and some more ram which would make the game cost me about $200 bucks... and if they are not going to give new servers for Americans (which they said they would...) and also make it a pain in the ass to play with my friends and charge me 12 bucks a month for maintence for servers im not even getting ... I'll just spend my money on something else. By all this "we dont give a fuck about the customers feedback" from sqaure, its making EQ2 look better and better.... atleast they listen and ACT on customer feedback and well worth my money.

This even hurts me even more from it coming from square.... I use to really like them and the FF series.. But after they screwed me over from buying saga frontier and legend of mana also that shity movie.... and now this.... the square trademark is not screwing me out of my money anymore!

... sniff it used to be when I saw something made by square I just bought it without any worries... but now.... now.. it has changed.

[Zeniku]

There is truth to both sides of the conversation. No one here is wrong.

[wrightson]

this is the first FF i ahev ever played and i dont really care about the server thing. maybe i am not getting the full reason why i shoul dbe pissed but i dont see what the big deal is.

[Cerag]

The thing that aggravates me is NA was treated like an afterthought. NA MMORPG's don't treat their foreign customers this way. Why should people be so forgiving to SE? NA MMORPG's all have servers for foreign customers, located in or very near their country, for better connectivity and a better gaming experience. Why is it people are so quick to forgive SE for NOT doing the same for us "foreigners" in NA, as NA MMORPG's have done for their foreigners?

It's a double standard that doesn't need to be there.

[Uchiha Sasuke]

Heh, i agree with you full-heartedly Zeniku. I am angry that they did that to us, however i need a new mmorpg to get me addicted. Its gonna make me less motivated to be the best, when the best was achieved like a half a year or more ago, and there are a ton of people with the best armor etc already.

Plus i spent a LOT of money on upgrades :spin:

[davidmmmm9]

this wasn't some just half assed move by square, it was their intention from the beginning of the development of the game to have people from around the world playing together. From basically day 1 they have talked about having japan and americans play together.
And for all you idiots posting saying how pissed you are, don't bother. There are already like 10 threads on this, don't create more, and another thing, no one cares if you're angry. Bitching and complaining and not buying the game isn't going to change anything, so if you're that upset, forget about the game, this website, and anything else.
so long and goodbye.

[KawaiiMithra]

FFXI = evil :mad: my best friend decided to not talk to me anymore because she decided to play FFXI instead :mad: :mad: :mad: oh well, when FFXI-2 comes out, then the true MMORPG experience i wanted to have will come true

[kazson]

i was pretty upset about the no NA server thing (check my post from a couple days ago)...but once you log on and play you will forget all about it , hell i did

[Vairu]

how is ffx2 compared to a mmorpg?

[Malabmannop]

Whats going on? I read in some guys post that a square person emailed him saying that there are going to be new servers? I could've swore I read that in these forums. Oh well maybe I am going crazy, maybe they lied, or maybe there is new servers. If there isn't new servers, ten bucks says the game is going to be laggy as hell and not worth the time to play it. Think about it, the servers are in japan and on top of that are already full of people playing them, throw in a 5-10k use players per server, and we got some MAJOR LAGGAGE. Hell I get lag from servers in the US. God knows what thise will be like.

Can someone please clarify that there is in fact no new servers?

[KawaiiMithra]

not FFX-2, its FFXI-2 lol. im talking about the sequel to FFXI. i heard they're making it for the PS3

[Zent]

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=216043#post216043

[Vay]

Originally posted by davidmmmm9
Bitching and complaining and not buying the game isn't going to change anything, so if you're that upset, forget about the game, this website, and anything else.
so long and goodbye.

This is the best precept I have ever heard, if everyone followed your view everything in the world will be much better!

So if you dont agree or like something just say "fuck it!" I cant change anything so why even try.


....fool

[El Cura]

This really doesn't seem like such a big problem.

know some are upset because you didn't get new server, but big deal... You've been waiting for this game for so long why is the fact that you're on old servers gonna be such a hassle? I think it quite sad people won't play a game because of such a insignificant problem.

Im in the UK and just imported this game, and no stupid server thing gonna stop me from enjoying it, and if it stops you then i truely feel sorry for you.

[RaionX]

I have been playing on Carbuncle server for about 12 hours no lag at all. I hardly ever see any Japanese players and when I do all that usually happens is they heal my while i'm fighting. I still get the same feeling of exploration cause it doesn't matter whoelse has seen it. I havn't so it's new.

[Deedlit]

I don't THINK I've noticed any lag on Leviathan (Do we all get that delay when trying to kneel?).

The jp people seem okie, I guess. One hooked me up with a WP(1041 gil, go Shin!), the others I think pretended I wasn't there, haha. I guess I can deal.

The only thing that has me worried is the ping rate, when we go RvR. Eh.

[StarRealms]

all I can say is thank god, and I hope you don't change your mind and end up trying the game later.

[seonaki]

Who cares about new servers?!? I think it's good that square didn't put a whole crapload more money into a buncha new servers and they are spending that money elsewhere. I have been playing the Lakshmi server alllllll day yesterday with no lag or system problems whatsoever. I collectively saw ONE confused japanese person that gave me some juice for free yesterday. I like the fact that we are on older servers. Could you imagine the tidle wave of problems that might come if they had newer servers?

Older=Experienced

The old servers work FINE. Get over the fact that square didn't want to shite out $xxxxx.xx so that you could play a shiny new server that'll probably crash it's arse off after a week of being up.

[EdLev]

I don't really mind playing with Japanese people. Sure, i don't speak ONE WORD pf Japanese, and of course the language barrier might prove frustrating sometimes. However, most people who actually HAVE played the NA version say they are having a great time, and that they rarely ever see JP players at NA peak times.

So what if I see a lvl 70 player from Japan strutting his shiny AF or JSE equip around? It just makes me want to work harder to get it. And personally, I don't care if all the areas have been explored by SOMEONE ELSE. As long as I haven't, it still has all the feeling of adventure and exploration. I think people should stop being so greedy for new, unseen stuff. They probably won't be the very first to get it anyway.

[Neiken]

I dont see any problems with this. Sure, it sucks that we didnt get our own servers. But even when SE said they were adding new servers, they didnt say it was JUST for english speaking people anyway. They said the new servers would be for any new accounts. So eventually the servers would end up being just like they are now, mixed with japanese/american/canadian.

[Slythe]

AHhahahahahahahahahaha!

How shallow are you? "Whaaaa! Lvl 70's are running around! I wanna be the first to explore high level areas! I'm so insecure in real life that pointless crap like this upsets me!"

What the hell makes you think you would be the first to do anything anyway? And how the hell would you even know?

You think these games are competition, but noone with half a brain cares about any of that. Play the game, make some freinds and have fun. Cry Babies.

[Lily]

El Cura, where did you go to get it imported, and how much, if you don't mind answering. :)

[lun4tic]

Nice post Slythe, but I'm sorry your too poor to afford your own opinion. Instead of saying what everybody else has said, you could be putting energy into somebody else's rant.

Anyways, I'd like to have a fresh game with a fresh start. Like beta, it just has a different feel to it then playing late with people who've been playing it for years already. I don't like being an after-thought either, and SE didn't need to put so much money into 30 servers to share them, they really only need 20 or so servers, and just split them up.

If you've played RYL you know know what I'm talking about along the lines of ignorance... Using that as an example, Americans should be secluded to their own server.

[Lupin585]

Wow... on my server everywhere you looked there was NA players. ((You can tell by the n00b clothes ^.^;; )) I PTed with 5 NA players and there were like 30 more... you have to take into effect that there is a time difference between NA and JP. So far I've talked to one Japanese player and I was glad! Japanese people are cool, they help out a lot. I was battling this crab for instance and he came right up to me and casted Protect on me! I was so happy I wish there was a /hug emote! :sweat:

Face it... FFXI is awesome no matter who is playing.

[Slythe]

lun4tic-

Yes, I stole my opinion from someone else. That makes tons of sense.

I'll let you in on a secret - Sometimes people share opinions.

Funny part is, the opinion of people complaining simply doesn't matter in this case. The decision has been made and the deed is done. You are in the vast minority, and Square won't need your money.

[Kafeen]

For Fuck sake get over yourself. Americans aren't more importent than everyone else. You don't deserve special servers just for you. Just be fucking thankful that you have the game there's plenty of places that don't.

[Malabmannop]

"For Fuck sake get over yourself. Americans aren't more importent than everyone else. You don't deserve special servers just for you. Just be fucking thankful that you have the game there's plenty of places that don't."

Why don't you just shut the fuck up. We have already clarified that it's not an American-Japanese problem. The people who are pissed are pissed off because we wanted to start on fresh servers which were promised by Square. They blatently lied about it. If you can't understand the difference between starting on a fresh server and starting on a full one, you're new to MMORPG's (which isn't a bad thing). But you just have to realize that they are two different experiences. We were expecting new servers, but instead we got old ones. I don't think the frustration would have been as great as it is now if they had said no new servers, but they didn't so that's my point.

PS.
If they weren't getting new servers, why the hell did it take two years to translate a game? That's pretty slack if you ask me.

[lun4tic]

Its like playing a game and already knowing the storyline. I might as well watch all these people instead of trying to be them, then I won't have to try as hard.

On a fresh server there are no samurais, or summoners, or anything about starting classes. So its like reading a new book when you can be the first, second, or even third or lower to do something. When you the billionth person to do something, it just isn't that special anymore.

In RO, everybody was all like, wow a knight! Wow a wizard! And so on, so forth. But when we play, we might as well say look, its what I'm gonna be, and look, there it is again, and look, that one too. And look! Another one!

Sloppy seconds.

[Shiyume]

Ever start playing an MMORPG a week after its released? Chances are it'd be very similar.

I played the import laglessly, so that's not a problem. Maintaining servers requires money, you see. They already have a bunch, and SE, as I recall, hasnt in recent times been in the best of financial situations. Right now, maybe a NA server is too much to handle. Chances are, they may MAKE one eventually, and allow players to World Shift there.

Other higher level players shouldn't be enough to make you shy away from a great game. What about Everquest? Its been out for years, so I guess no one new should play since there are already strong players.

I UNDERSTAND why you're angry, and if the World Pass situation werent so screwey it'd be better, but not playing the game due to this...well, its your decision, but you're missing out

[ganhosi]

Stop wasting the server's bandwidth and hardrive space by bitching and whinning. I swear 50% of the posts on this site is about people bitching about something or another. I'm trying to find useful information about the actual game and all I see is people crying about some minial crap. Where are all the moderators and why arent they doing a better job regulating these posts? I have to muddle through tons of useless crap just to find some information that is actually useful. If you want to cry about something, then have your parents pay for your therapy sessions. See now you've got me bitching .... Great

[Anaki]

MAN U HAVE PROBLEMS go to anger managmement the whole world dun revolve around swearing and trying to act cool even though ur probaly a nerdie wimp so dun complain about censorship

[Azuth]

:rolleyes:

This thread is stupid. I don't recall the Japanese getting any special servers either, so why should Americans be any different? Now, I could be wrong, the original players maybe were allowed to choose their starting server, but I didn't read anything that said they could. So, we face the same difficulty that everyone else did. So what? Suck it up, and shut up, or don't play.

[Regulat0r]

Screw the damn servers who CARES ANYMORE!! I dont care if there is a bunch of lvl 70s the problem is the world pass issue. I currently have 4 friends and myself that all want to get toghethor and play and so far only not landed on the fenrir server even once and I have been trying for 4 hours now (fenrir was selected because the first person of my group was on that server at the beginning). This is a major problem for folks that want to play with friends =(

[KiTA]

Now if you want to get all your friends on the same server you have to wait for them to level up to buy 1000+gil world passes, or suck up to other players for the money to do it.

I actually looked, and today, on Fairy, a WP only cost like 460 gil. A newbie could get that, EASILY, before level 3.

So they either lowered the price or Fairy is WAAAAAAAY underpop.

[Regulat0r]

Pfff, I havent even seen fairy or fenrir and I have been deleteing constantly for 6 hours..

[Vay]

Why are so many people getting so pissed about people posting their feelings of what square did(which they were fully in fault. not us!) and why in the hell do we have to explain why we are mad becuase we didnt get new servers when they said they would give them to us. Its all self-explainatory!

All I wanted was new servers, thats it! I wouldnt be bitching so much if they never said we weren;t going to get them... but just few days before release, oh look no servers, sorry try again... Thanks alot for preordering tho... how does that dick in your ass feel?

I dont even need to explain why I want so bad to play on new servers, which would make a very long post =p The point is Sqaure told me that I was going to get new servers for NA release (which I care deeply about) but now after I have preordered thinking I had new servers, now that I picked up the game... I feel totaly ass raped, and unlike all you final fantasy fanboys I dont enjoy, so I am pissed and I want to bitch and complain and since just by looking at the boards im not the only one thats pissed.

So if enough of us that want new servers speak up then maybe we will get them, so let the bitching and complain continue!

[lun4tic]

Stop bitching about us bitching you dumb bitches it makes no sense. You all turn this into a race problem when all we want is a new server with a fresh start.

You all come in here making long nonsensical posts about us bitching, sometimes not even making a very good arguement as to why we should stop bitching, but still expect us to.

At least if you disagree post something that makes sense like some of the people here, most of it has been weak flames that make no sense and don't belong in any topic.

[Deathguise]

So what it comes down to is selfishness and arrogance.

[Susano]

Originally posted by Deathguise
So what it comes down to is selfishness and arrogance.

No, what it comes down to is that people want to play in a fresh world where the conquest system means something.

This game is centered on the conquest system, and as it stands, we are entering worlds where we have little to no effect on that since the dominant force is already established.

We payed for a product and we are not getting the most from it. It's like buying a "new" dinner set and when you unpack it they all have food on them......and they are not returnable.

Personally, it doesn't bother me, I had my chance to play with a fresh conquest sytem, bt I feel sorry for the folks who don't get to.

In closing, it's just a case of people wanting the most for their money. Who can blame someone for wanting somthing they pay for to live up to all their expectations?

[lun4tic]

Exactly.

It doesn't bother me per se... but I am annoyed, and I will get over it.

At least those cheaters in Bastok can't mess up conquests :D


So what it comes down to is selfishness and arrogance.

Speak for yourself.

[Kafeen]

Why don't you just shut the fuck up. We have already clarified that it's not an American-Japanese problem. The people who are pissed are pissed off because we wanted to start on fresh servers which were promised by Square. They blatently lied about it. If you can't understand the difference between starting on a fresh server and starting on a full one, you're new to MMORPG's (which isn't a bad thing). But you just have to realize that they are two different experiences. We were expecting new servers, but instead we got old ones. I don't think the frustration would have been as great as it is now if they had said no new servers, but they didn't so that's my point.

PS.
If they weren't getting new servers, why the hell did it take two years to translate a game? That's pretty slack if you ask me.
What's the difference between starting on new or old servers? You fight NPC monsters, not other players (apart from in PvP but then you choose who to fight).
I'm not new to MMORPGs, I've played at least 4 or 5 before FFXI.
I've played servers from the first day they opened and from over a year after they opened. The biggest difference is that on well established servers items are alot more affordable due and the economy is alot more stable. Equipment is generally much more available.

[lun4tic]

Please review the topic, because we have already stated several reasons, and I'm sure I'm speaking for everybody when I say we are tired of explaining our stance on this subject.