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kanomjeeb
08-22-2003, 04:37 AM
Someone sent me PM about how chests/coffers hunting works.

So i will just post the basic idea about how thfs hunt coffers/chests in here.

There are 3 types of key thf can use.

Thief's tool - carpenter
Living key - alchemy
Skeleton key - bonework

the better key, the higher chance to succeed opening chests/coffers

Thief's tool(least chance) < Living key(medium chance) < Skeleton key(higest chance) .. it goes like this.

So if you are hunting coffers in really high lv zones like ZV or OZ, you should really use skeleton key, but if you are hunting ez chest like gusgen, thief's tool is enough.

the prices go like this on my server:

thief's tool = 900g
living key = 1500g
skeleton key = 3000g

most thf start hunting chests/coffers after lv50 because they can /whm or /rdm for sneak and invis.

one thing though, you can't open chest while invising, gotta take it off first. and about sneak, you can open chest but sneak will be gone after opening, so you have to make sure there is no monster around there.

the easiest way to hunt chest is lving up till you are high enough and monsters dont attack you anymore so that you can run around without worries.

thats why its ez if monster dont attack you.

coffers/chests pop time is 30 minutes. Its exactly 30 minutes no more no less. In the famous place like Oztroja or Feiyin that there are always rivals, I usually time the pop time in second. Once, i get my first chest, i time it (i use the oven timer thingy ^^') and do something else such as hunting ez monsters for some drops.

and when the time comes, i count down from 10,9,8,...,1,0 then I tonzura (splint), hide and check all the pop spots. In place that is big like feiyin, i can usually check 9spots from 12spots in about 90 seconds, so if somebody else opened a chest before me, i will know the next pop time with about -45 or +45 second error.

so, when you come later and there is somebody hunting chest already, the easy way to know when the coffer will pop is keeping looking at him, whenever he starts running , that means its pop time, so you just splint and check all spots.

If i am controlling pop time of chests, i usualy hide when i start running so those rivals might not see me checking chest and they might not know its pop time ^^.

another very important thing is you have to know ALL pop spots of chests/coffers. the best website has been closed already. fortunately I had it back up, so I can send to any of you if you want (send me pm your email and make sure you have 1Mbyte free space ^^')

this is just basic idea of how to hun chests/coffers. there are lots more things that a thf has to know.. like which monster need sneak, which monster need invis.. which one active to magic, how you gonna deal if your invis fades.. or how can you open coffer/chest while there are many monsters around.. that is just what a thf has to learn by himself ^^

Beany
08-22-2003, 08:37 AM
You da man Jeeb :handsdown

Now I just gotta get my THF high enough to where I'm not getting my ass handed to me everytime I run around Fei Yin.

Nameless
08-22-2003, 01:49 PM
:handsdown Thanks :biggrin: :handsdown

Rivalry is so fun :-).

miffycat
08-24-2003, 05:49 AM
Great information on the thief tool^^ However i have a question for you which i would like to ask anyone reading this post. Jeeb was saying tat for the 3 types of tools for thiefs, the skeleton type has the highest rate of success. However i have read from somewhere tat while the chances for sucess of the skeleton and living kit are fixed, the success rate of opening a chest/coffer with the thief tool is dependent on the lvl of the thf. Meaning a lvl 30 thf may never succeed in picking a chest lock with the thief tool in feiyin while having a high chance of success with the skeleton kit. Hoever, a lvl 70 thf will have a very high chance of success with a thief tool in feiyin, even much more than the skeleton kit. Is this true?

Beany
08-24-2003, 09:16 AM
Well, my only experience with coffer/chest hunting was running around the Sea Serpent Grotto, looking for the map. As a LVL50 THF, it took me 2 Living Keys to get it open.

kanomjeeb
08-24-2003, 08:58 PM
Seems to be that way from my experience.

success rate seems to depend on 3 things

- Zone (ZV = hard, gusgen = ez for example)
- Thf's LV as you mentioned.
- Key's type

When I was finding my AF coffer in ZV, I used 4 skeleton key to open - -' (I was lvv56), but now(lv60) I can use living key to open coffer in monastic cavern, OZ with like 75% success rate.

also, when i started hunting chests in feiyin at lv56, it was like 50 50 chance to succeed opening a chest using livling keys, but now it seems to be almost 100% ^^'

So, it seems to be that way, the higher lv, the more success rate.

Jei
08-25-2003, 06:41 AM
o-O? which website is closed? the treasure hunting map we've been using???

Calilove
08-28-2003, 01:29 PM
Is coffer hunting pretty much a high level thief activity? It seems like everyone I hear talking about it is at like level 50... is this because there are no coffers in caves appropriate to lower levels, or are the items just not worth it...

Coffer hunting seems like fun to me.... a good way to solo and be productive... what are good coffer caves (i.e. with lots of chests) for levels 1-10, 10-20, 20-30, etc?

zappem2000
09-02-2003, 08:47 PM
How often do you get mimcs attack you? It seems quite a lost cause as they have the ability to make u run backwards towards them...hence tonzura is ><

Beany
09-04-2003, 05:40 AM
Don't take my word for it, but from my experience (very little), hunting chests/coffers at lower levels in lower level zones does not yield enough profit to warrent wasting your time camping for chests.

The chance of a Mimic attacking you is random, just like the chance of getting cursed, but I think the Mimic only has a chance of attacking you if you fail to pick the lock.

(Btw, I'm just regurgitating what Jeeb told me, so take it as you will)

Kaizoku
09-15-2003, 01:43 AM
Hey Jeebs, if you still look at this thread please read your PM's it concerns whats in this topic ~Thank You.

davidmmmm9
09-15-2003, 02:37 AM
I know the coffer pops every 30 minutes, but I was pretty sure that treasure chest pop again instantly after you open them.

kanomjeeb
09-15-2003, 02:55 AM
I know the coffer pops every 30 minutes, but I was pretty sure that treasure chest pop again instantly after you open them.

Treasure chests are still the same, 30 minute pop time. I am sure about this cuz I have opened chests in feiyin more than 100 I believe ^^;

Hey Jeebs, if you still look at this thread please read your PM's it concerns whats in this topic ~Thank You.

I sent you the coffers/chests location already. Did you get it?

Deli
09-15-2003, 07:41 PM
chest time > different places, different time, like wat miya say, i have seen chest appear very soon.

kanomjeeb
09-15-2003, 10:30 PM
Oh wow i didnt even know that. its 30 minutes in feiyin and ZV, so i thought every places would be the same.

Anyway, Deli you know if quicksand coffers can really give rez2? In the treasure hunter webby said yes they do, and also some friends of mine said so too.

However, I asked another high lv jap. He said the coffers there do NOT give rez2, its just a rumor.

so, i was like.. - . -?

can anyone confirm that coffers in quicksand give rez2?(probably very rarely)

my personal experience -> about 7-8 coffers there = moneyx7 and mimic 1 T.T

Deli
09-17-2003, 02:30 AM
i heard of the rumor too. and have tried opening like 10 coffers in a row, all gils, so even if it does have raise2, the drop rate is low

zappem2000
09-18-2003, 02:50 AM
Well if we are talking about RSE chests then pop time is roughly 5 mins...only when it is RSE time for that dungeon...

Otherwise...more likely it is about half hour intervals?

Cri
09-18-2003, 06:22 AM
Isnt there a chest in the horoto ruins i believe? There are just a bunch of tinkerers and stuff. Maybe a dragons i forgets :( . Whats in there?

davidmmmm9
09-18-2003, 11:20 AM
it's a low level area, so nothing too good.

Deli
09-18-2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by zappem2000
Well if we are talking about RSE chests then pop time is roughly 5 mins...only when it is RSE time for that dungeon...

Otherwise...more likely it is about half hour intervals?

Yeah, come to think of it, quite true

Russta
09-18-2003, 08:27 PM
My JP friend opened 16 Quicksands coffers and got nothing but items and gil (except 16th was Mimic) so unless its uber uber rare I doubt this. I also had a brief chat with Farplaner/Tongyang about it a few moths back and he thinks the same.

nicksgotpecks
10-01-2003, 02:59 PM
ok i got two questions 1 is what is rse and other equipment names like that and the other is what is a coffer? and are mimic's hard to fight?

Trey
10-01-2003, 10:08 PM
So once the game is released do you think it will be common to have multiple thieves all hanging around in an area camping chests? Would be stupid to have a bunch of thieves all racing to get the chests... would be like EQ's rare spawns, everyone races to get it first. Yucky :P

Blondybadass
12-13-2003, 05:45 PM
kanomjeeb You mailbox is full I can't PM you:( great info though thanks:)

KyanMehwulfe
12-15-2003, 09:51 AM
Could you email me that Map at mehwulfe@hotmail.com ?
Or if someone has found a URL to it online since original message, post that. Thanks.

I have a great global map of all the zones with very accurate NM info... bad sadly the Chest info is definetly inaccurate, based on my experience in a few dungeons.

Xeross
12-15-2003, 02:19 PM
Better change your stratagy...

In the 12/15 update list
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"The amount of time taken for treasure chests to reappear will now be random within a set time frame.
Treasure chests will now reappear a short time after a trap has been set off by a thief failing to open a chest."
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