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voodoo
08-10-2003, 06:45 PM
Just wondering what everyone's ideal PT combination is (or would be, for those who don't have the game).
Here's mine: (mainjob/subjob)

whm/smn
blm/whm
brd/whm
pld/war
thf/war
drk/mnk

whm/smn cos you need one (smn rather than blm, for extra mp)
blm/whm for high damage/emergancy heals
brd/whm for fantastic bard abilities/after-battle heals
pld/war for meat shield/emergancy heals
thf/war for high damage in renkei/taunt in emergancy/extra drops
drk/mnk just for the huge damage

although i haven't actually PT'd with this combination, it's my speculated fave.
the best PT I ever had was quite widly different from the above, i think it was whm/brd/rdm/war/thf/sam

John Doe III
08-10-2003, 07:37 PM
The best PT combination I've ever had is:

blm/whm
rdm/whm
thief/war
sam/drk(me) :)
blm/whm
war/mnk

Got almost 3 levels in this.

kanomjeeb
08-10-2003, 08:23 PM
I always have goooood time with ranger.

so, here is mine:

PLD/WAR
THF/whatever
RNG/whatever
BRD/WHM
RDM/BLM
WHM/BLM

sidewinder -> viper or dancing... omg.. pitiful monsters...

PS. thf should be able to do yokodama to make pld to be able to keep monster with him efficiently.:biggrin:

Rico
08-10-2003, 08:28 PM
Hmm ill just make it like this

3 fighters

and

3 mage users

That's the basic one. for me that is ;)

Jei
08-10-2003, 08:38 PM
best combination.... for me

3 mages will need BRD and RDM. 1 more can be anything.

3 fighters will need RNG and THF. and 1 meat shield. PLD preferrably.

hmmm adding some more oppinion here.

bard's 2 MP song + RDM's refresh means 6 MP every 3 seconds. the 1 other mage will have a very nice time spending his/her MP. and RDM can convert when we runs out of MP. it's like an unlimited MP supply combination.

Ranger's Sidewinder 1000+ damage >> THF's Viper bite 1000+ damage >> 600+ damage add from renkei effect.... is a killing machine..
I've seen Arching arrow 1200 damage >> THF's Shark's bite 600 damage >> lightness effects 1200 damage before too.... (or the way around... can only say it's great... too great)

Dr.chaos
08-11-2003, 02:20 PM
It seems theres no place for a dragoon in a perfect world....(crys)
How effective is dragoon in a big party anyways?
Never played the game but i would like to try this PT
Hume:DRG/BLM
Taru:Rdm/blm
Galka:MNK/PLD
Elvaan:DRK/Whm

Yeah i know it sounds like a bad idea...Screw you!
:sweat:

Sirius Black
08-11-2003, 04:18 PM
- PLD/WAR - Perfect meat shield
- RDM/WHT - Great healer
- BRD/WHT - Great support
- SAM/WAR or MNK/WAR - Awesome DMG + Backup tank
- RNG/WAR or DRG/WAR - Awesome DMG
- THF/NIN or NIN/THF - Perfect puller + damage + support

tazirai
08-11-2003, 11:09 PM
two of the best Pt ive been in consisted of:

Pt number one hunting in khazam
elvaan =rng/sam
elvaan = war/thf
mithra = thf/war
mithra = sam/war
me(hume)= rdm/blm
taru =smn/whm

we were chaining gobus, the garuda blink saved much mp and curega
me with regen and nukes fo rthe renkei were awesome.

ranger with sidewinder after main renkei and my MB = dead gobu.

second PT hunting in onzozo
we were linking cockatrices
Pt was :
me hume= rdm/blm
galka=pld/whm
mithra=drk/sam
mithra= war/thf
mithra=pld/war
elvaan=brd/whm

galka pld and mithra pld were the meatshields. and healign themselves. and keeping tuant.

galka pld/whm can taunt easy , all he did was heal himself and the cockatrice attacked.

dark sam insane tp so kill the mob with chain ws.

mithra war/thf was their to increase drop rate since we were combo level up PT and treasure hunt PT.

me and bard serve several functions.
bard get second cockatrice and and use hp song and ballad to refresh the galka and my mp.
and give back up heals.

Me get 3rd cockatrice and use regen on meatshields.

Now me and bard were very busy , every ten minutes i use convert to keep the mp up .
the bard and I had the job of making sure the adds dont um add , so he would area sleep theni woul dpick up his slack.

we would go from making 196 exp to 284 exp it was so cool, at that time i was 41 That Pt got me abotu 3k an hr I leveld twice and made abotu 5k gil.

Keji
08-19-2003, 07:00 PM
No drg eh? you tazirai of all ppl i thought would be partied with a drg :o lol

kanomjeeb
08-19-2003, 10:11 PM
I got an interesting PT a couple days ago.

It was.. PLD SAM NIN THF BRD RDM/NIN***.

When i was invited, i was like .. would 1 mage pt be doing ok?...

but the leader was.. rank9.. so... well, whatever, i joined.

We got almost 4k per hour O.o!!

please forgive me i really dont know why 1 mage could keep healing... especially the rdm.. was... subbing.. ninja ^^; .. and he is an elvaan ... /shrug

nitouryu + enthunder is..... sweet T.T...

our pt's whole MP was less than 600 (rdm was elvaan... hmm go figure)

the rdm/nin got like 350mp, bard = 120, pld = something..

very interesting.. I didnt expected that the pt would do that great.

the renkei was ninjatu's earth WS -> Dancing edges.. and samurai solo WS..

sometimes an awesome pt doesnt need to be pld, 2 fighter and 3 mage ^^;;

I dont think I can make such pt though... too scared to fight with 1 mage T.T

Kilgraw
08-20-2003, 12:26 AM
My ideal PT would consist of a group of people that I enjoy playing with, and can carry on a conversation.

Call me crazy, but that's what I look for while playing online games.

Tidane
08-20-2003, 11:57 AM
Yeah, same here, but it seems like my party is going to end up with 4 THFs, a RDM, and a DRK (me). I'm hoping I don't get on the same server as them...refusing them might not go over to well...lol.

tazirai
08-20-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by NuLLiFy
No drg eh? you tazirai of all ppl i thought would be partied with a drg :o lol



hee hee:)

Angrysteel1
09-05-2003, 11:13 PM
best pt config ive been involved was this...

PLd/war-Taru tons of mp canheal himself with cure3
DRK/war-Galka tons of damage back up taunt
thf/nin-hate towards pld etc..
rdm/whm-kept all our mp up
Brd/whm-back up healer and mp up
whm/smn-primaryhealer

the pt wanted me to take drk/war but wuold have been ok with drk/thf

Awntawn
09-07-2003, 02:34 AM
As DRK, my favorite config is:

DRK/WAR
WAR/SAM
PLD/WAR
BRD/WHM
WHM/BLM or BLM/WHM
RDM/ (sub BLM if you have WHM already, sub WHM if you have BLM)

Then again, I haven't PTed with RNG before, maybe they'd do better. I like WAR for shield break, however, then he recharges and we can renkei, it works like a dream.

There really is no ideal or best, but there are compatibility issues. THF is most compatible with MNK, DRG, or RNG because they have high-damaging ŠÑ’Ê WS's (THF along with one of the others), whereas DRK WAR and RNG (either with either) fit together for •ª‰ð renkeis. I always like a PLD in the PT, but i know some who don't :p Unless, of course, we have one of those insane blink pouch pulling ninjas, but they'd have trouble keeping hate without THF. :/ SAM... I honestly don't really know what's up with SAM :sweat: I guess people just bring them along to pump out WSes are fast as they can :/ I dunno, I don't PT with SAM that much at upper levels. :(

Atheist
09-08-2003, 12:30 AM
DRG/SAM
THF/NIN
PLD/WAR
RDM/*mage*
WHM/BLM
BRD/*mage*

here's mine

Sirius Black
09-08-2003, 01:36 AM
Seems to be becoming increasingly popular at higher lvs. I noticed both Tazirai and Kanomjeeb mentioned PTs of this assortment and said they did quite well. After this confidence I have retooled my PT (with the advice of Jei; thanks again) and here is what I now think is the coolest:

1. PLD/WAR - Tank of coarse, although with 2 mage system more of a healer than usual.

2. BRD/WHM - BRDs seem very useful, and downright essential in some cases. Plus since this is a 2 mage PT that /WHM is also essential.

3. RDM/BLM - Of coarse the awesome RDM, but with the MP from BLM he can Cure V that PLD several times also: RDM 2 hour + Escape = my 2 mage PT lives.

4. THF/NIN - Here is the really essential piece I was missing before because with the NIN/THF you just can't throw the right kinda hate at the PLD.

5. RNG/WAR - For that insane DMG to make battles go by fast. Berserk plus RNG 2 hour or Sidewinder = (at the price of sounding horribly stupid) priceless.

6. MNK/SAM - For the final slot I have choosen; really the "pure" fighter of the FF series. With all those Martial Arts it will make up for the RNG delay and give a consistent (yet good) damage. Most people don't put MNK in thier "perfect PT" I think they kick ass though. Everyone wants them for their 2 hour for missions so why not have them all the time? With SAM TP gain and MNK WS I will surely be a force to be reckoned with.

Awntawn
09-08-2003, 05:26 PM
4 melees and 2 mages is utterly horrible at higher levels. Also, let's not forget that bard is support class, not a mage, so you're actually 4 melee, 1 support, and 1 mage. That is no where near enough healing power to last you chains.

Sirius Black
09-09-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Awntawn
4 melees and 2 mages is utterly horrible at higher levels. Also, let's not forget that bard is support class, not a mage, so you're actually 4 melee, 1 support, and 1 mage. That is no where near enough healing power to last you chains.

J/K Awntwan I actually think your a good guy. I guess I'll see what happens, I may change the RNG to RNG/NIN then him and the THF would be safe from hate. With Yokodama and Taunt the hate should stay on the PLD, and between Pian, Regen, and heals from RDM/ and /WHM we should be able to keep it under control. That was actually my main motivation for choosing the MNK over the DRK. They don't do as much damage all at once so it's easier to control their hate from what I hear. Once the NA comes out though, I'm sure I'll keep you all posted. Bottom line, this is what my friends WANT to be, and I don't want to make them change their jobs anymore than I have (got rid of their stupid combos like SAM/RDM) and so this is what I ended up with. Absolute worst case scenario, PLD does 2 hour and takes all hits raises hate RDM 2 hour + BLM Dezone and we live. Or we die, isn't that part of playing to?

Sirius Black
09-10-2003, 01:10 AM
I have two more PT ideas:

HAHA! 3 of each.... well sort of

MNK/THF - DMG + consistent + adds hate to PLD
THF/NIN - DMG + puller + adds hate to PLD
PLD/WAR - Takes the hits from the hate
BRD/WHM - Supports us and heals
RDM/BLM - Heal + Enfeeble + Nuke + Sword magic
SMN/WHM - Heal + support + damage

Is this enough healing power to be a reasonable PT? Also, does the SMN add enough to a PT to be useful?
2nd PT (very crazy)

RNG/NIN - uh sidewinder and blink
THF/NIN - uh dancing edge and blink
MNK/NIN - uh raging fist and blink
DRK/NIN - uh guillotine and blink
BRD/WHM - Supports us and heals
RDM/BLM - Heal + Enfeeble + Nuke + Sword magic

Would this work? if we could all use Blink like crazy, we wouldn't need a tank at all. Hate is no longer an issue either, because it doesn't matter who gets hit. BRD and RDM won't take more hate than that.

well give me your opinions

Malabmannop
09-12-2003, 05:10 AM
Although I have never experienced the high level game, I think I would enjoy a party with attackers:

WAR/SAM
RNG/SAM
DRK/SAM
RDM/WHM
BRD/WHM
BLM/WHM or WHM/BLM

I think that combo would eat through monsters. A little gusty though considering there's no tank. Meh. just you dezone or something. I think that combo would be great for chaining.

John Doe III
09-12-2003, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by Sirius Black
I have two more PT ideas:

HAHA! 3 of each.... well sort of

MNK/THF - DMG + consistent + adds hate to PLD
THF/NIN - DMG + puller + adds hate to PLD
PLD/WAR - Takes the hits from the hate
BRD/WHM - Supports us and heals
RDM/BLM - Heal + Enfeeble + Nuke + Sword magic
SMN/WHM - Heal + support + damage

2nd PT (very crazy)

RNG/NIN - uh sidewinder and blink
THF/NIN - uh dancing edge and blink
MNK/NIN - uh raging fist and blink
DRK/NIN - uh guillotine and blink
BRD/WHM - Supports us and heals
RDM/BLM - Heal + Enfeeble + Nuke + Sword magic


1. In my opinion to many healers and needs one more attacker. If not one more the monster will take forever to defeat.

2. If you did this no tank and you need them to keep the monster still and not running everywhere. So much blink and most of it wont be used you will need at least 2 or 1 tanks.

Originally posted by Malabmannop
WAR/SAM
RNG/SAM
DRK/SAM
RDM/WHM
BRD/WHM
BLM/WHM or WHM/BLM

To many Samurai's..you need at least one tank (War) to fit in there. May also be to many mages and you may have to rest alot if your PT doesn't know* what they are doing. Plus get a Thf in there to renkei with the DRG and it should be good.

Nadyxes
09-12-2003, 06:07 AM
My favorite pt config:

MNK/THF
PLD/WAR or MNK/WAR
THF/WAR
RDM/BLM
WHM/BLM
BRD/WHM

Since Boyahda is always so crowded esp at my lvl, and fighting spiders are no good without RNG, Gustav is the best place since need claws in that area. Gustav will be least crowded compared to Boyahada.

kanomjeeb
09-12-2003, 12:53 PM
If you dont have a PLD in your pt, try to put at least 2 tauntable fighters in there. Cures do a lot more hate than most ppl think.

A few days ago my pt in boyahda was:

SAM/WAR
THF/NIN
THF/NIN
RDM/BLM
BRD/WHM
WHM/BLM

We were doing 2x2 renkei which was samurai>dancing(me) + samurai>dancing(another thf), and both thf were doing good job on yokodama.

this seems to be a deadly pt and yes it was, but..

guess what, monsters ran like hell. We also got in trouble sometimes and it was so frustrating.

running monsters made it hard for thf to do yokodama and miss renkei often.

It would be a lot better if the tank was PLD =/

voodoo
10-14-2003, 04:13 PM
I had the best PT ever the other day which was:

RNG/NIN (me)
WAR/WHM (dunno why he subbed whm, and he used 2h sword)
PLD/WAR
RDM/WHM
RDM/BLM
BRD/WHM

Funny thing was, the brd was lv25 where I (and a couple of others) were 28 - but regardless of this, we made some mad mad exp, never even stopped to rest once. everyone levelled at least twice :D

Awntawn
10-15-2003, 01:36 AM
The "IDEAL" config after 60 is probably:

RNG
THF
PLD or WAR
BRD
WHM
RDM or BLM

But honestly... just how lame is that? Besides, other party configs aren't that much worse, it all really depends on the players IN the party.

Aldo
10-15-2003, 01:49 AM
drk/war
war/sam
thf/sam
smn/whm
rdm/blm
brd/whm

hmmm, but this is only if the smn is Nyankichi ;)

MassaJJ
10-16-2003, 11:57 AM
My ideal party:

Me
My friend nick
My friend bilinear
My friend Will
My brother
One other dude from my crew of badass gamers.


I don't care what classes they are we will tear through anything.

pierrot
10-16-2003, 12:21 PM
So it comes down to:
Melee does the atk
BRD/WHM/RDM support
BLM is either /WHM and is to support or useless ? -_-

Even tho I still have hopes, that when retail starts, the amount of specific jobs balances out, so BLM can do what they're supposed to do in a party, or either a lot of ppl will be disappointed, since BLM is THE magic-atk class.....and now the experienced ppl tell us, that isn't needed >_>

voodoo
10-16-2003, 05:10 PM
blm is used for dealing lots of damage, they're also used for healing up when they have spare MP. Depends on the PT setup really... sometimes they might need to heal lots, other times not at all...
blm is really needed for doing magic-bursts though, which add a lot of damage to the renkei.

x0imaginazn0x
10-16-2003, 06:54 PM
DRK/WAR
SAM/WAR
PLD/WAR
NIN/WAR
SMN/WHM
RDM/BLM

we were lvling in yutunga(sp?) and i barely had to cure people ^^. We had the Garuda Blink and the NIN's blink which pretty much tanked every monster. gotta love garuda:p exp was great too(140-200+ each monster)

Tredvolt
10-24-2003, 11:32 AM
PAL/WAR - Front
SAM/WAR - Behind
THF/NIN - Behind Samurai
THF/NIN - Behind Samurai

BRD/WHM - Support
RDM/BLM - Support


The idea should be obvious. We have 2 secondary healers one primary and are using WS chains SAM->THF1 SAM->THF2. Lots of yokodama too. Any problems? The only change we are considering at current is to switch the SAM/WAR to RNG/SAM.

I'd really like some feedback :) 4 days left.

Hisdon
10-24-2003, 03:49 PM
I always found this to look like an uber pt

WAR/SAM
DRK/WAR
PLD/WAR
BRD/WHM
WHM/BLM
RNG/NIN (for the two daggers)

We got our 2 tanks with a DRK, so melee if fine. RNG is like a BLM bein they nuke from a range so I'll just stick him right back there. Also, there are 3 characters that can heal, so I personally believe the healing is fine. Pt's main renki?

Shield Break>Sidewinder>Gullotine :spin: I'm a happy DRK now!

Arto
10-24-2003, 06:32 PM
I Would go

RNG/THF
PLD/WAR
BRD/WHT
WHT/SUM

Im not entirely sure i havent played yet but im definetly being a ranger =P

l)@RK-l)EVIL
10-25-2003, 05:57 AM
drk/rdm elvaan
drk/rdm elvaan
war/thf elvaan
thf/war hume
whm/blm hume
bard/whm hume

im insane to have 2 dark knights in my pt maybe :P
but i like my pt

we rock :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Alagor
10-26-2003, 05:14 AM
my party

BLM/SMN(me)
BLM/somthing
BLM/somthin
BLM/somthin
BLm/Somthin
WHM/Brd or WHM/BLM

Simply if you have a lot of BLMs everything Dies very very quickly

Trust me

5 Blms with Aeroga(120dmgish L23 spell)
on one poor gob is 600dmgish.

Dead in one other cast.

voodoo
10-26-2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by Alagor
my party

BLM/SMN(me)
BLM/somthing
BLM/somthin
BLM/somthin
BLm/Somthin
WHM/Brd or WHM/BLM

Simply if you have a lot of BLMs everything Dies very very quickly

Trust me

5 Blms with Aeroga(120dmgish L23 spell)
on one poor gob is 600dmgish.

Dead in one other cast.

problem with this PT is the monster would be able to kill you very very easily, especially at high levels, and you'd be resting for a looong time inbetween battles :/

Sirus
11-10-2003, 09:36 PM
Lol how come there is barely any monks here? No one likes us? Lol.

Well, anyways, here is my party:

Mnk/Drk (Me)
Pld/War
Rng/Thf
Whm/Blm
Blm/Whm
Brd/Rdm

The paladin would be our tank, while the monk and ranger deal out the melee damage. The white mage would heal us, and would sometimes use black magic when needed, and vise versa for the black mage. Then our bard would play some songs, and could heal and deal magic damage, whichever he/she wanted.

Lol that bard combo is probably really bad huh? Sorry but I'm still learning hehe.

Zenogias
11-14-2003, 07:20 AM
pal/war or nin/war
drg/sam or drk/sam
rdm/whm or bard/whm
blm/whm
whm/blm or /sum
thf/ninja

voodoo
11-14-2003, 07:56 AM
i just got out of a PT which took like 2 hours to form, anyway it was:
rng, thf, whm, rdm, blm.... and our tanker? oh yes our tanker was a taru bst ^^; she wasn't using tamed monsters to tank, just herself... guess that's what happens when no one suitable is available ; ; it wasn't bad actually though, got decent enough exp.


but! soon I shall be starting a set-PT I setup which is (so far):
rng, pld, brd, whm, blm - with a thf I think it'll be one awesome PT.

Awntawn
11-14-2003, 09:41 PM
Ideal party should have 3 melee and 3 mages, else it's kind of inefficient. Granted some 4 melee parties are better than crappy balanced parties, the average 4 melee party is quite shitty, whereas the average 3 melee and 3 mage party is on average, much much better.

Nameless
11-14-2003, 10:48 PM
Might as well post a good party I had in ghelsba when I was 11.

WAR/THF
WAR
WAR
MNK
THF
WHM

We owned, chained a lot (up to 7 which is good), I KNOW it was because of the WHM, she was great, I mean the party split up and attacked 2 different monsters and she kept all of us alive. Later the monk left and were still pwnt. Best PT I've ever been in, all PTs have sucked thus far, I got a level that night, and am barely into 13. That pt was awhile ago, almost all parties afterward have sucked, perhaps that's why I'm stuck at 13.

Oh yeah everyone but the WHM was in CG.

xRei
11-15-2003, 12:57 AM
Had a damn good PT yesterday, in fact it was so good we all added each other to friend list and promised to PT for the next few weeks or so :O

this is at low level though >.> no subjobs yet.. so the pt might not do so well at higher levels.. anyway.............

WAR (1h Sword) Galka - Main Tank and Puller
WAR (1h Sword) Hume (me) - Secondary Tank
WAR (Spear) Elvaan - Damage Dealer
THF (1h Sword) Hume - Damage Dealer (Sneak Attack + Fast Blade :O)
WHM Hume - First Healer
WHM Tarutaru - Second Healer

We chained 'tough' mobs non stop, hardly had any downtime at all, the WHMs would take turns .. one cures while the other heals, practically non stop xp (average 40+ xp per kill) ^^;

Secrenja
11-15-2003, 09:17 AM
depends on levels and areas.
My favorite would have to be quifim, killing a worm for 72-100 xp, by myself :D
Anyways I think it would be
Hume RDM/BLM
Galka PLD/WAR
Taru WHM/BLM
Elvaan NIN/THF or another melee like DRK/WAR
Mithra BRD/WHM
Any WAR/SAM
^thats a party for like 45

DannyForgette
11-16-2003, 08:09 PM
On the last days of beta I had a part consisting of:
PLD/MNK-(two hand sword)backup tank/backup damage<-me
PLD/WAR-(one hand sword)main tank
BRD/RDM-support/backup healer
BLM/RDM-damage/backup healer
BLM/WHM-damage/healer

This PT config gave us about 2k-3k an hour, only having to rest about every half hour. My job was to support the main tank by use cureII on him so that i would gain hate while healing him(killing two birds with one stone) while the mages could cast away, killing the monster before it could attack the casters. I went from lvl37-40 that day. Kinda a wierd combo, but it was the best PT i ever had.

Rocko
11-24-2003, 01:09 PM
Is a monk a viable subjob for anything? I read through every post here and monk wasnt mentioned. For example how would a DRK/MNK do?

Rocko

Tokitoki
11-25-2003, 06:37 PM
The best party ive had so far was:
DRK/WAR
PLD/WAR
WHM
BLK/WHM
THF/WAR
WAR/THF

Of course im only lvl 21 now and the WHM didnt have a sub but i ahve yet to have a party that work better together ^^

Suzaku trs
11-26-2003, 11:10 AM
A good part should be formed in my eyes out 2 mages, 1 tanker, 2 damage dealers, 1 damage dealer/tanker.

whm/brd
blk/smn
pl/war
rng/sam
drk/war
th/nin

FeralisCallidus
11-30-2003, 06:38 PM
6 Rangers. Buwaa ahahahahaaha

mmm... 6x sidewinder... (of course, they would all sub nin or sam for blink/heart eye)

This isn't true, just a joke... though it would be relatively interesting

Nameless
11-30-2003, 09:20 PM
Too bad they'd all die before they could get 20% tp :\

Deodorant
11-30-2003, 09:37 PM
Mmmm best PT I've ever had:

nin/war <-- tank
thf/nin <-- me
drk/war
whm/blm
brd/whm
rdm/blm

If I had the gil supply, I'd go nin/war tank too :P Anyway got from lvl 32-34 at East Altepa in 3 hours, was good. The parties I've had from 34-40 have been, honestly, quite crappy, because I can't play during japanese peak times, and there are maybe a grand total of 20 in-range players when I do come on ...

FeralisCallidus
12-01-2003, 05:01 AM
Nameless - Not if they all subbed samurai. 6 Minute lag time in between batte, but 6 sidewinders would be interesting. You assume too much =\