Proper Ettiquette

[zorrah]

OK, the other day, I was a part of a party for a long quest (it was the Bastok Rank 2 quest). Anyway, we had 3 party members, each party member had to collect 4 rare drops from monsters we were bearly strong enough to beat. All three of us has all 4 Items except for one person (this is after hours of partying together, and dying together numerous times as well). Along comes non party member asking for a group (by the time this happens, we have our act together and haven't died for quite some time). We are ALMOST done and we explain this. He say's, "ok just until you complete this then, I just want help lvling and stuff too." Out of the goodness of our heart we take him in so he can get a little XP and not die. The ONE quest item that the ONE party member was waiting for, the one item that costs us hours of toiling along with a fair share of blood, sweat, and tears, is dropped by a guy that the 4 of us beat. We forgot to mention treasure beforehand, but us 3 had already paid our dues and this guy comes waltzing in EXPECTING us to just hand it over to him. Is it fair for us to give up that item, when our quest is so close to a conclusion? Especially when his purpose was stated for protection and lvls? What do you think?

[Irinicus]

Well did you tell him why you were hunting there in the first place?? Sis you tell the person that when it dropped it was already slated to go to the other party member? If so, then the newcomer should not say anything and besides that, you did say that he was not there for loot but for exp and protection, so again he should not be expecting anything. But thats just my opinion.

[Einhander]

Well if you made it known to him what you were up to and that your one member needed it the polite thing for him to do would be to pass on it. However if he didnt know there isnt much you can do. On top of the fact that if its a quest item he cant give it back if he already cast and won it. If you had told him, he should have passed... if not, it was probably an honest mistake.

[zorrah]

Actually, since there are four of us, the treasure doesn't get divied until the last two either pass or cast his lot, which neither of us who already had it did. These also can be traded because we were trading back and forth already. As it went, they both casted thier lots, while we were telling the fourth person that we wanted it to go to the third person because that was the last in his quest and that's when the fourth guy started whining about it. I was polite and even offered him gil if he would pass on it. He refused that and got kicked by our leader. I wasn't party leader, I'm actually nicer than that, nor was our leader the one who wanted the treasure. I wasn't the one who wanted the treasure either, if you haven't figured that out already. Was that going too far though?

[falloutboy14]

If I'm reading this correctly, then when casting lots, you told the new guy that the item was intended to go to the third person. At which point he tried to get it and got it. Then he got kicked.

I'd a kicked him too. He practically begged you to join, which you allowed. At this point, he definately should have returned the favor by passing the item/giving it to the third man after he got it. You gave kindness, which he/she did not return, IMO, you're no longer obliged to give kindness.

[LEOsh]

In the PTs I've been in so far, everyone has been quite nice regarding drops needed for quests/missions even if were in a levelling PT.

If it were to drop, people would usually ask who else needs it. If they didn't need it they'd pass. I assumed this was the ettiquette so I do the same when I'm in PTs but obviously everyone has different standards. You were unlucky to have this person take advantage of your kindness. :(

[Rubylite]

IMO i would have said this when the item droped "thats so and so's item" and i would eexplain why i would tell him to @#$@ off and boot him from the group =)

[Terikan]

I would have kicked him out.

[Jonnyram]

If this happens again, use Quartermaster rules and explain why you are doing so... you can set all the drops to go to one person in the party. If that person can't accept them for whatever reason it will go to a lot as usual.