FFXI/EQOA servers

[Wabafet]

Why does FFXI need 20 servers(I think it is 20, correct me if I am wrong) and EQOA only needs 6?
I know there is more players in FFXI than in EQOA but enough for 14 more servers? or can the EQOA servers just hold more?

[dragoon]

ME think because they have the jap. and am. on totally diffrent server

[cactuar]

i got eqoa iam lvl 50 rogue clw server besides the game sux eqoa has 3000 per server but this limit is more then breached which is why the Castle Light Wolf server chases all the time in FFXI funny to think of it i dont know the server cap :makes you wonder:

[Dante1981]

there is probably more servers for ffxi because EQOA is just dealing with ps2 players while ffxi will combine both the ps2 players and the computer players, so it basically doubled the amount of people. besides EQOA sucks ass, it was okay but lost its fun because they cant add any real cool stuff since there is no hard drive. more people will prob get ffxi since final fantasy is popular to begin with.

[Wabafet]

I have only been in Marr's Fist (and of course I am not allowed in that town because NOBODY likes the shadowknight!>_<) and I think it has crashed once when I have been playing (which hasn't been much) but it does go very laggy in Freeport because lots of people like to go there.

But is there so many people playing FFXI that they need 20 servers for it? They even had overload problems when it was released, geeze does every one in Japan have this game:confused:??

[hiro]

Well Final Fantasy is the biggest game in the WORLD EQOA Sucks compared to FF thats the blatent truth you i and every body else knows it. So thats it we have more servers because more people love it man!!!!!

[fyrewyre]

Originally posted by hiro
Well Final Fantasy is the biggest game in the WORLD EQOA Sucks compared to FF thats the blatent truth you i and every body else knows it. So thats it we have more servers because more people love it man!!!!!

i agree. more servers allow more people. to the post above i hear alot of people in japan were disappointed with the shakey launch last year and now since it was commisioned to be released in america thigns have been fixed and drastic changes have occured along the log on and game play. I dont know ANY EQ jp players and well i know many american EQ players. why do they play it? just for the story but many have seen ffxi and are changing their minds, other mmorpg players from doac, ultima, and a few other games are flocking to ffxi. i think we need for more servers.

[Doppelganger]

first off, the game already has 29 servers, 3 of which have over 7000 players. the beta server would make it 30. if the ffxi world is as big as i hope, these servers have to be powerful to handle the 3000 average population. since it's much cheaper to buy several good servers than it is to buy a single ownage server, they will most likely get a lot more servers for NA release. ALL WILL BE OPEN TO ALL NATIONALITIES. from what i hear, EQOA has no set story line, while the ffxi story is increased with each patch.

[Wabafet]

They have 30 servers now!?! :eek:
I know of these ones:
00 Bahamut
01 Shiva
02 Titan
03 Ramuh
04 Phoenix
05 Carbuncle
06 Fenrir
07 Sylph
08 Valefour
09 Alexander
10 Leviathan
11 Odin
12 Ifrit
13 Diablos
14 Caitsith
15 Quetzacotl
16 Siren
17 Unicorn
18 Gilgamesh
19 Ragnarok
What others are there?

Is there even a story line in EQOA? I heard that it gets into one at higher levels but I haven't noticed one yet in the game, just get this, kill this monster that is imposible to find and bring back the item, kill this squire spreading goodness, etc. I'm just playing it so I can get into the whole MMORPG thing and see what they are like.

[fyrewyre]

Originally posted by Doppelganger
first off, the game already has 29 servers, 3 of which have over 7000 players. the beta server would make it 30. if the ffxi world is as big as i hope, these servers have to be powerful to handle the 3000 average population. since it's much cheaper to buy several good servers than it is to buy a single ownage server, they will most likely get a lot more servers for NA release. ALL WILL BE OPEN TO ALL NATIONALITIES. from what i hear, EQOA has no set story line, while the ffxi story is increased with each patch.



now im completely unclear of the number of servers but thanks for clearing up the nationality thing, i see that there is a separate ection for us/canada gamers and japanese gamers. i dont get that. for the post above me i see 19 and the 1 and 2 keys are close to gether anyway.

as for playing eq to get into the whole mmorpg err...just play ffx and pretend its online and read up on the posts here. that will do more help than anything (imho lol)
with the money they make off of our addictions they can afford to get somre new servers and even some for their employees and a car if they push the envelope. just think $11 X 7k usersX 12months=$924,000. but counting only three thousand ppl is $396, 000 so lets assume that after a year they can add as many servers as they want. i hope i didnt go off topic again.

[The GameMaster]

Why does FFXI need 20 servers(I think it is 20, correct me if I am wrong) and EQOA only needs 6?
I know there is more players in FFXI than in EQOA but enough for 14 more servers? or can the EQOA servers just hold more?

Wabafet, this answer is very simple.

The reason FFXI has more virtual servers online is because FFXI has a LOT, and I mean a LOT more active subscribers/users than EQOA. As far as I know EQOA has few if any subscribers at all in japan, and the situation is not looking any better for EQOA when FFXI is finally released in the USA as many of what users EQOA has left will likely goto FFXI on the PS2. (Information I have read indicated that FFXI so far has over 200,000 subscribers, mostly in japan alone. EQOA so far as far as I know has around 10,000-20,000 subscibers. For further reference EQ on the PC has around 400,000 subscribers worldwide.) This will likely cause the folding of the PS2 EQOA outright and it will not be able to sustain itself unless Sony is willing to take a loss to keep those servers up for a while longer. I seriously doubt, from what I saw, that the new EQOA expansion will do much to save EQOA from its fate, and from what I have seen...its more of the same, and the "updated" graphics that is being advertised is little if any improvement. But nothing can save that game's terrible gameplay and concept.

Keep in mind the servers you see is not the actual number of computers acting as servers, as each server you see is actually a cluster of computers that acts as the server you play on. Reference my reply that was made on the post "Monthly Cost Sucks" about that issue, it explains in great detail the costs associated in running a MMOG and how many computers are used.
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14931
Here is a clip from from my reply...
The second reason is hardware, MMOGs require a LOT of hardware to run the various account, character, internet, and actual game servers. From what I read FFXI requires around 1500 servers alone in japan to run the entire thing. Everquest requires AT LEAST 150 computers per visible server (Basically around 4 zones per server, and sometimes 1 zone per server for high load zones).
But go ahead and read it...it has a lot of information in that article.

After both english versions are released on the PC and PS2, given the fact FFXI so far has half the subscriber base of FFXI and it has not even been released here yet, I fully do expect to see FFXI overtake even the mighty PC EverQuest as the world's most played and well known major MMORPG (Excluding a couple Korean MMORPGs such as Lineage and Ragnarok Online, but those games have major issues in them, most of them being depth, however they are EXTREMELY popular in Korea mostly, they have not had any success outside of Korea.) Sony has many concerns about FFXI, and this is why Sony has tried their best to prevent FFXI from coming out, which they almost succeeded if it was not for that merger between SquareSoft and Enix. If it was not for Sony this game would of came out here in the USA last year on the PS2, and the reason is EQOA. Sony knows once FFXI is released...EQOA is pretty much dead in the water. More than that Sony DOES NOT want FFXI to overtake their precious EverQuest on the PC as the biggest MMORPG and most well known MMORPG.

Sony is about to have a reality shock, their days of putting out substandard products that are unfinished, buggy, and not "working as intended" (See EverQuest (begining to end), EQOA, PlanetSide, Star Wars Galaxies) are about to come to a end if they know what is good for them. Once gamers start hearing about and begin playing FFXI and find out for once a MMORPG actually WORKS as intended they will demand that quality from SOE. This is likely the biggest difference between FFXI and EQ/EQOA...this game actually WORKS!

Expect this much...when the English version of FFXI gets out...expect those 30 or so servers to double to 50-60 around or just after launch and certainly by the time the PS2 English version is released, and expect EQOA's servers to be reduced to 3-4 from 6, this due to the mass exodus of players from EQOA to FFXI on the PS2.

The GameMaster...

PS...Looks like I have restarted old posting habits, I appologize in advance for all my recent ultra long replies/posts. :sweat:

[Wabafet]

Yeah you could probably have stopped after the first sentence but thanks for the reply.
I didn't know there was THAT MUCH of a difference bettween the population of the two games, and that isn't the first time that I heard that Sony is reluctent to release the HDD so FFXI can be released here because they will loose people. I know that other games made by Sony have been pretty good and detailed, I guess they just don't have the MMORPG spark in them.
I have read your post about the cost before so I sort of know what you are talking about.
Is Lineage really 'EXTREMELY' popular in Korea? I tried the Lineage 2 beta and found it really boring, I played it for about 1/10 the time it took to download and update(so about 30 minutes).

Also does anyone know the names to the 10 servers that I am missing?

[BlueIX]

Hmm I got:
Pandemonium
Garuda
Cerberus
Kujata
Bismarck
Seraph
Lakshmi
Midgardsormr
and Cactuar

It's not that EQOA needs 6, it actually has more than 6. At least 15. They're just releasing each server when they think they need more room for the newbies. There used to be 4 servers, now there's 6. Who knows when they'll add the rest...but who cares cause this is FFXI forum! Mwaha. :handsdown

[fyrewyre]

Very interesting point GameMaster. i would have never thouht about Sonys loss in this. i herd about FFXI not comming over here and iwas about to import it. the fact that square was about to rob their customres was crazy but now you made sense of it all. Sony will take a hit and i feel for them, but they should have knows a weak game such as EQ couldnt stay on top for ever. i seen the new graphics and i laughed again cause they dont have a feel to them, just 3dmax and play-doh skin anyway i dont want to rant. knowing the fanbase is atleast 10,000 minuimum in japan the profit margin went up from $936 thousand to $1,320,000-$2,640,00 ($11/ month X N users X 12months=N) and those numbers lookjust about right for square. i wonder how the other MMORPGs out there will do after the FFXI releas. Now im starting to think about the upcomming HDD demand in the US and Canada and if they will be MIA from our ps2's.

[zorrah]

Yeah, sony's known for that. Remember how HARD it was to get a network adapter at first, or even a system for that matter. You'll be VERY lucky to be able to find a hard for at least the first 6 months after it comes out. That's 6 more months Sony has that group of potential FFXI customers playing EQOA.

Now about servers, it's fun finding a party and playing with a large group, but I HATE the overcrowded EQ. I don't know about the full version, but in the Beta of FFXI, you can actually find areas for your level that aren't COMPLETELY hunted out. Another thing is how often are the FF servers down? I've only been on the Beta for about a week, but already it seems as if the servers are more stable. Anyone in the import let me know. I'm happy to see so many servers, I hope the number does climb, keep the overcrowding down.

[tazirai]

Originally posted by The GameMaster


Wabafet, this answer is very simple.

The reason FFXI has more virtual servers online is because FFXI has a LOT, and I mean a LOT more active subscribers/users than EQOA. As far as I know EQOA has few if any subscribers at all in japan, and the situation is not looking any better for EQOA when FFXI is finally released in the USA as many of what users EQOA has left will likely goto FFXI on the PS2. (Information I have read indicated that FFXI so far has over 200,000 subscribers, mostly in japan alone. EQOA so far as far as I know has around 10,000-20,000 subscibers. For further reference EQ on the PC has around 400,000 subscribers worldwide.) This will likely cause the folding of the PS2 EQOA outright and it will not be able to sustain itself unless Sony is willing to take a loss to keep those servers up for a while longer. I seriously doubt, from what I saw, that the new EQOA expansion will do much to save EQOA from its fate, and from what I have seen...its more of the same, and the "updated" graphics that is being advertised is little if any improvement. But nothing can save that game's terrible gameplay and concept.





Actually dgenki ha sreported now that FFXI has more than 300000 thousand players. Not considering NA beta testers.
And thats after just one year and one country and a bunch of importers.
http://www.dengekionline.com/ff11/ziraat/index.html

[Wabafet]

300000 players! holy crapola!

Can someone tell me who these are?
Garuda
Bismarck
Lakshmi
Midgardsormr
I don't think I've seen these names before now so can someone fill me in?

[fyrewyre]

i smell 500,000 FF subscribers after the release and ALOT of empty mmorpg servers around the world, im glad we switched over to a fps project now.

[Etra]

Originally posted by zorrah
Now about servers, it's fun finding a party and playing with a large group, but I HATE the overcrowded EQ. I don't know about the full version, but in the Beta of FFXI, you can actually find areas for your level that aren't COMPLETELY hunted out. Another thing is how often are the FF servers down? I've only been on the Beta for about a week, but already it seems as if the servers are more stable. Anyone in the import let me know. I'm happy to see so many servers, I hope the number does climb, keep the overcrowding down.

Its usually not completely hunted out...except in the areas where theres lot of PTs going on. XP

Also, heres a list of the servers for FFXI~

Bahamut
Shiva
Titan
Ramuh
Phoenix
Carbuncle
Fenrir
Sylph
Valefor
Alexander
Leviathan
Odin
Ifrit
Diablos
Caitsith
Quetzelcoatl
Siren
Unicorn
Gilgamesh
Ragnarok
Pandemonium
Garuda
Cerberus
Kujata
Bismark
Seraph
Lakshmi
Midgardsormr
Cactuar

(29 servers all together)

[The GameMaster]

Actually dgenki ha sreported now that FFXI has more than 300000 thousand players. Not considering NA beta testers.
And thats after just one year and one country and a bunch of importers.

Heh ok time to update my numbers again. :angel:

This game is growing faster than I thought, but again just wait until after the english version is released. Sony does indeed have much to fear. :thumbsup:

The GameMaster...

[hiro]

Honestly i think this will be the best video game ever made since from now to the last 30 years.

[Wabafet]

Can someone tell me who these are?
Garuda
Bismarck
Lakshmi
Midgardsormr
I don't think I've seen these names before now so can someone fill me in?

[Dr.chaos]

Bismarck is the whale Esper from FF6/3.

[Kalel]

Why do you think hard-drive was delayed so long? Because FFXI would have destroyed sales of EQ if they came out at same time. Put this way second game of EQ will be on PS2 before FFXI. They know people would like FFXI over Everquest. Believe me I played it and its total chaos: no story, you start with nothing at all, no help you are totally on your own, bad graphics and ugly characters and armor!:rolleyes: