Best Sub Job For Warrior?

[Dante1981]

I have a few questions which would be great if answered. I am going to be a galka and thinking when i get lv18 i would make the monk as my sub job then when i get lv30 i would change to a samauri and build up the sam and war. I hear a lot of good things about sam. is this a good idea or is there something better. I want to be able to have good defense and still be able to stand there and kick some serious ass. also if i have a monk as a sub job can i use swords and other weapons.

thanks

[tysoman15]

A sam boosts your tp intake by alot and you get alot of strength from both classes. Im going to try a War/Blm just to see how it turns out cause at higher lvls blms do intense dmg

[lun4tic]

From my first hand experience, samurai are awesome to PT with. Their katanas may be slow, but their WSs always fit in the renkei. They should definately be sibbed with warrior, or monk for their counter abiltity. Taunt is the most important move any frontline fighter should have, so maybe its best to go war.

Drk would help too, but who wants to get to level 30, change to drk, level it up, change to sam, then level that up? Yuck.

[Jei]

war/sam definitely is becoming popular right now. the level 30 samurai's ability free tp charge is just so good.

war/mnk in the other hand is still the most common combination i see from 20-50 still.

I see war/thf less and less these days.

[lun4tic]

I'm becoming a War/Thf for the extra gil drops. It'l be better for my PT too.

[jag3034]

nahhh war/blm i heard is the worst combo in the game u have very weak magic if ure main is warrior and ure sub is blackmage u will do little damage when u use mage even when ure in higher lvls u still wont get higher damage by much!

[tysoman15]

i mean blm main war sub it gives more xp so far and thats nee since blms become main targets once spells start flyin imma sub whm later so i can get more mp

[Susano]

Speaking as a war/thf I can say it isn't as impressive as I thought it would be.

Only lvl 22, but I find myself consistantly fighting mobs that don't drop any gold, and steal is a joke......I steal pebbles like a madman. Seems like the only items you steal are the crappy items that drop from mobs, never the decent items.

Monk would have been far easier to level as a subjob and would benefit my primary job a lot more (boost, counter, more hp).

Thief is good for hunting gil, but I find I focus on leveling more than gil farming, so monk would have been a wiser choice. I'll live with thief though, cause I don't feel like lvl'n monk :P And I'm gonna swap primary jobs once I hit 30 anyhow :)

[Libien]

i was thinkin about a war/whm and a drk knight when i get to lvl 30. is that a good combination??

[lun4tic]

Not really, warriors have 0 mp to add to what little mp the whm sub will add, and they won't be very effective.

But hey, you could try it anyways cause warriors don't have any use for mp, and as a whm all you'd need to do is heal yourself. So it kinda sounds like it would work, maybe I'll try it myself.

[tysoman15]

i started over as a blm mage and like it far better then war, i can solo maze makers and am always the main dmg dealer of the group, a war/whm is good if you can get yourself to get cure II so the you can heal yoir self when the whm is fpcusing on someone else. A war may seem simple enough but at higher levels i suggest you get the best equipment, so also lvl a thief for gil and items.

[DJplaeskool]

1-30: WAR/MNK
30-60: WAR/THF, WAR/MNK
60+: WAR/SAM

other possibilities:
20+: WAR/NIN
22+: WAR/WHM (PTs with low healing capacity)

[Meinrad]

war/pld
its what i go with. i was originally gonna make paladin my main but its beta so screw it. it gives good VIT and STR boosts. not as much hp as monk but its good.

[Izual]

I've seen a lot of warriors sub whm in the beta, and for the most part it works out pretty well. It makes me jealous seeing these other WAR's use magic sometimes :) War/mnk is definitely the most common though.

Personally, I really like the idea of war/sam, and even though I can't test it out in beta it's what I'm planning to go for in retail.

[FFXITYDANMUAHA]

Wazzup anyone

[ZQM]

I wish I could sub SAM in exp parties, but then the tank wouldn't be able to hold hate. :( I got to try out SAM subjob when I was tanking a friend's Garliage Coffer key party, and it was sooooo fun. :spin:

However, THF sub is still good 60+. It's like the only way to make Raging Rush actually do good damage. :rolleyes:

You'll also most likely be asked to sub NIN 55-60 because of Rampage, and NIN sub adds more damage to it.

[GSDragoon]

From my experiences, SA+ Sturmwind does tons of dmg. Great if your in a DD spot. /MNK or /THF if your tanking. The best part is WAR's versatailty(SP?). It's good to have different subs leveled up so you can switch depenting on your role for that specific party. Same goes with equipment.


I'm proud of this one^^

[Bagon]

My best Job Is War/Mnk!

[ibroyles]

Originally posted by FFXITYDANMUAHA
Wazzup anyone

?!?

Uber bump. Actually pretty funny seeing some people's suggestions from a year ago, like the war/blm, LOL!

[Jinxie]

I think the best combination I've partied with has been a WAR/NIN. He could tank like hell and not to mention the dual axes he slaughtered the mobs with.

[lun4tic]

It's as good as the amount of money you put into it.

[Hitokami]

OK so I have decided that I wanna be a full time war, but i dont know specifically which subs to concentrate on.

There supposedly is a rumor that Sneak Attack is going to be limited to 1 handed weapons only. If this is true It nullifies /thf for me, and so I am wondering should i continue to level thf?

I also want to know if Sam is worth leveling so that i can use it at level 60. I hear a lot of praise on the boards but whenever i do a /sea all war 60-75 i see no sam.

Thanks for your input :handsdown

[lun4tic]

I havn't heard anything on your sneak attack rumour, but the reason most warriors don't sub samurai is because it'll attract way too much hate. I'm guessing it's powerful because you'll basically spam weapon skills.

Hopefully that trick attack rumour isn't true. If it is...

[ibroyles]

I think the idea is to use a Break, Meditate, then Renkei. I've heard mixed things just perusing around the forums. This post (http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41244) has a lot of info about the pros/cons of it.

[DrSerpico]

Hey Kainhighwind, that thf doing a 300-something viper, he was Elvaan, wasn't he?

Either that, or that poor guy... well... He should prolly play drk. -_-;

[GSDragoon]

Originally posted by DrSerpico
Hey Kainhighwind, that thf doing a 300-something viper, he was Elvaan, wasn't he?

Either that, or that poor guy... well... He should prolly play drk. -_-;

They were taru. Their gear was decent, but not bad at all.

I didn't get everything in the pic, but I had my meat mithkabob eaten, berserk, warcry, and I got a double attack off during it. So umm, I wasn't doing that much all the time.

[Ednoon]

Originally posted by tysoman15
A sam boosts your tp intake by alot and you get alot of strength from both classes. Im going to try a War/Blm just to see how it turns out cause at higher lvls blms do intense dmg :eek: :handsdown

[Nameless]

lmao @ ednoon

:p

[Meimei]

Originally posted by tysoman15
A sam boosts your tp intake by alot and you get alot of strength from both classes. Im going to try a War/Blm just to see how it turns out cause at higher lvls blms do intense dmg

I think war/brd works better. Acc up and ballad1 :)

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[Darkedge]

I just started leveling Warrior on a new character and right now I'm leveling Monk as a subjob. How far can I level warrior with MNK sub before NIN sub is demanded?


Edit: Took out my reason for becoming a Melee to avoid something none of us want to break out in this thread :cool:

[Nameless]

I'm going to have to say that mage is cheaper than WAR...

Unless you buy every spell for your class war will cost more in the end.

[Darkedge]

Originally posted by Nameless
I'm going to have to say that mage is cheaper than WAR...

Unless you buy every spell for your class war will cost more in the end.

I don't want us to hold anything against eachother, but I'd much rather you help answer my question than start this debate.

[lun4tic]

Uh, I think 30 is when you should start leveling ninja?

[Nameless]

You can sub MNK to 60 and no one would question it. Although, /NIN would help the most at 55 when you get rampage.

[Baradak]

Originally posted by Nameless
You can sub MNK to 60 and no one would question it. Although, /NIN would help the most at 55 when you get rampage.

Just for the TP gain that dual (damn i'm retarded, almost wrote duel instead) wielding would gain? Or would dual wielding actually increase Rampage's damage?

[Nameless]

It would get you more damage because you would get an extra swing in there. So say you normally do 250 damage, with /nin and another weapon you will do 300.

[ZQM]

Whenever you use axes past 20, use /NIN.

Like Nameless said, having a weapon in your offhand means you get an extra hit on your WS. So even though Rampage is normally 5 hits, being /NIN makes it 6 hits.

And you'll probably be using Axes quite often. Axes can start fusion, stronger WS to end fusion (only Great Axe breaks end fusion, and you don't want those in SC), and stronger WSs to end Distortion. Only time you'll use Great Axe is if 1) You're not in SC and you use breaks 2) You're doing Framentation. Fragmentation is quite rare early on because of all the weak WS early on. However, at 60, a lot of powerful WSs can chain Fragmenation so you'll be doing it pretty often (Sidewinder, Guillotine, Raging Rush, ect).

So from 1-20 IMO:
Axe=MNK
Great Axe=MNK
20-30:
Axe=NIN
Great Axe=MNK
30-60:
Axe=NIN
Great Axe=THF
60-75:
Axe=NIN
Great Axe=THF orSAM (however, there's a thread floating around about how often you'll be using Great Axe post 66, so don't worry about it too much)

[FinalPhantasy13]

I almost died when I read the start of this post, I thought this board had been taken over by newbs.....scared the hell out of me lol sorry for being off topic =P

On topic I hear war/nin is the best post 30, I hear this combo is the only way it is possible for a war to tank past 30 (blink). Also axes rock and at some point you get an axe with +10 acc I think and two of those would own.

[GSDragoon]

Originally posted by FinalPhantasy13
I almost died when I read the start of this post, I thought this board had been taken over by newbs.....scared the hell out of me lol sorry for being off topic =P

On topic I hear war/nin is the best post 30, I hear this combo is the only way it is possible for a war to tank past 30 (blink). Also axes rock and at some point you get an axe with +10 acc I think and two of those would own.

You go by things you heard and don't know details and call others n00bs? Well, I've tanked fine lv32-40 in Altepa with MNK sub. Even agains those big Dhamls (SP?) who do a def down ability and hit you hard from smacking you silly with their heads. After 40, I've been usually invited as a DD and backup tank.

[Nameless]

Originally posted by FinalPhantasy13
I almost died when I read the start of this post, I thought this board had been taken over by newbs.....scared the hell out of me lol sorry for being off topic =P
Seeing as this topic was made a YEAR AGO. When NO ONE HAD THE GAME. I'm not suprised at all.


On topic I hear war/nin is the best post 30, I hear this combo is the only way it is possible for a war to tank past 30 (blink). Also axes rock and at some point you get an axe with +10 acc I think and two of those would own.

Um, it is highly possible to tank with /MNK from 30 and beyond. I've tanked many times past 30 as WAR/MNK and had no problem at all.

[Tracezero]

Originally posted by Jei


I see war/thf less and less these days.


Me=War/Thf all the way, no Advance jobs to spoil my 14 year old brain:biggrin:

[Ozymandis]

Don't listen to haters about WAR/THF. It's an excellent combination, better than WAR/NIN to at the very least 50.

You just won't tank with it, and you need to find a cooperative PT leader. Too much "Distortion roolz" that goes on once THF gets Viper Bite. Fragmentation is just as good in those ranges. You'll be fighting bats in Garliage twice, Fragmentation >> Distortion there. Hawker's in Gustav, same thing. Gobs there, meh, neither chain is ideal but either is fine. Crawlers, yes, beetles, yes, Distortion will have the edge... but you'll be fighting flies again in CN as well. Then spiders in the Tree, which won't resist much of anything. And also crabs, where either chain is fine. In fact, closing with a Great Axe WS is smarter, considering that crabs are pretty strong to piercing.

Originally posted by Nameless
Um, it is highly possible to tank with /MNK from 30 and beyond. I've tanked many times past 30 as WAR/MNK and had no problem at all.

Agreed, /MNK is still a viable tank for quite a while. I still miss Counter and the extra 100 or so HP :sweat: