Godly Possibilities?

[Tuned Bandit]

This is just an idea, and I'm sure I'm not the first person to think of it, but wouldn't a high level RNG/SAM be the biggest damage dealing combo? A 60/30 in this and you could charge your TP, use sidewinder, wash and repeat. Just curious as to what the pros and cons would be, because this has serious possibilities as far as I can see.

P.S.: If I do this, I'll be sure to have a leveled thief as well.

[Daxwells]

Tuned Bandit, is tht you? you're supposed to be a bard at our linkshell, remember? what, you quit? doesn't really matter if you quit, I just need to know.

[Tuned Bandit]

Daxwells, sorry. But it didn't seem like TWDM was really going anywhere and I don't really want to be a Bard anymore. I apologize and I guess I shouldn't make commitments that I can't follow through with. I'm sorry.

But back to Rangers. Around what level do RNGs get Sidewinder? (ex, THF gets Viper Bite at 33 i believe) And if at one point I was a RNG/THF, if I backstabbed an enemie would that erase my hate? I don't really understand hate and haven't done a lot of research on it, sorry.

[Daxwells]

thats alright man. we did go somewhere, we have a host now. But good luck with your ranger/samurai!:thumbsup:

[Jei]

RNG/SAM should be pretty.... crazy, I guess....

Sidewinder follow by midareuchi (4 shots ability for lv30 ranger) already give back tons of TP. Now when your midareuchi isn't ready you have SAM's free TP charge for another WS......

when you're out soloing for money, nothing can stop you really.
In a party play, tho, pity your poor WHM and PLD, they definitely will have hard time protecting you ^^;

I don't know how good SAM's AGI is however. with sidewinder being a 5 hit WS it can hit all the way from 1 hit to 5 hits (or zero hit) and give back TP accordingly.... so AGI and range accuracy really is very important for rangers

BTW, side winder needs bow skill at 175, so around level 55-56 rangers can shoot it.

[Tuned Bandit]

Wow, that's pretty far off. 55-56, eh? Oh well. It really seems worth it to me.

So I guess I'll be a Thief from the start and work in my Carpentry skill as much as possible from the get-go. I'll probably be a bow-only RNG so I won't waste as much cash on guns ammo, even if they are stronger. Yeah, I guess I would be a handful for the WHMs and PLDs, huh? LoL.

Ok, and some last questions (sorry, I'm a curious type) regarding a RNG.

1.) Does the Thief's sneak/feint attack work with arrows/bullets?

2.) What does the Lvl 15 Job Quality "Rapid Shot" do?

3.) Around what level do they start to really pick up?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks Jei for taking time out to answer all my previous posts.

[Jei]

1. no. that's why /thf isn't quite helpful for rangers in a PT ^^;

2. it lowers your shooting interval time.

3. I think 30... when rangers get midareuchi ability.

[Exsol]

RNG/SAM?

omg yes, this is a very good combo,
i wouldnt worry about the hate you will get too much, as PLD do have the cover ability, and your other pt members will take the hate off you with taunt and heal, etc.
Its all about being the best you can, and the sidewinder is one of the RNGs biggest advatages.

and a rng/thf sucks ass.
:spin:

[Alatar]

I don't know if this is right or not but i heard Ranger/White Mage works out great maybe you could try that. Until you get to RNG/SAM it wouldn't give the gil gaining qualities of the thief or the Agi of a thief so i don't know. But good luck with it. I would try it out myself but i am going to be a ninja so my money is spent and trying ranger wouldn't help with that situation

[HAGAKURE]

What about a Sam/Rng ? what that be a good combonation considering that Bows/Guns are ranked C for samurais even tho you have to be a high lvl to get side-winder! and would cost alot to by arrows or ammo

[Exsol]

Originally posted by HAGAKURE
What about a Sam/Rng ? what that be a good combonation considering that Bows/Guns are ranked C for samurais even tho you have to be a high lvl to get side-winder! and would cost alot to by arrows or ammo

yeah, there is one small problem tho....only RNG use bow/gun WS's

[davidmmmm9]

that's why you sub rng. if you sub rng, you can use the bow WS.
or if you're a ninja or thf/rng, you can use the gun ws.

[Chip]

What about a RNG/MNK, would you be able to use the grapples or something. What would happen if I did this:confused:

[kanomjeeb]

this is my opinion,

I think ranger/samurai does too much hate and very hard to keep enemy off him.

only rng/xxx (whatever that is not samurai), i had soo much hard time to help the pld to keep target on him(I was doing dancing blade yokodama on him+pld shield bash, cure like crazy).

the thing is, yes rangers do soo much dmg, but they cant do too much, or pld in pt will be useless and they would die.

the sub job that suits ranger in my opinion is, /nin, dual wield never hurts, and blink help the ranger a lot from being killed.

one case, if the thf in pt subs samurai too, that would be very interesting .. lol .. sidewinder > dancing, sidewinder > dancing

[Chip]

What about a RNG/MNK, wut wud me the results of this? I wanna be a mithra RNG but i hav no idea wat type of sub job i want...im thinking about a MNK, wut wud be the ups and downs of doing this?

[Rico]

Well Try it out if you really like it be that sub job.. But Thief's are pracitly the best job for them I mean Ranger has B+ on dagger which thieves use and you got a load amount of gil for you bullets.

-Rico-

[tongyang]

Originally posted by Rico
But Thief's are pracitly the best job for them I mean Ranger has B+ on dagger which thieves use and you got a load amount of gil for you bullets.

Sorry, but this is not true at all. If you ever played Ranger you'd know why. It is not bad, but it is not even close to be the best subjob for ranger.

(WAR, SAM, NIN are all better subjobs) THF job is only used for money-making.

[Rico]

Youre going everywhere telling me the same thing >_< thanks for clearing it out for me tho so ninja makes a good sub job? please tell me why.

-Rico-

[Fire]

I believe its because you can dual weild weps if u must go melee.

[davidmmmm9]

duel wield lv29 archer knives.

[kanomjeeb]

its because of blink ninjatu imo.

rangers get hit a lot due to their high dmg output.

blink ninjatu is the thing that makes ninja to be one of the best tank in some cases(and takes lots of money).

a ranger using blink ninjatu can avoid lots of hits.

and ranger/ninja is really popular on my server lately ^^.

I wouldn't say ninja is the best sub for rangers though cuz I am not a ranger. maybe it depends on situation.. /shrug

[tongyang]

Both the dual-wield archer knife and the ninjitsu are good reasons :)

[Milliardo]

Hmmm... after reading all of this, I think I'm going to go with SAM/RNG. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but the TP charge, sidewinder would be great for soloing, and I could still use it on occasion in a party, as a finishing blow or something, so long as I didn't go overboard and raise too much hate.
One thing I'm kind of unclear about however; If you're a RNG, and you have SAM as your sub, can you still equip 2 H Katana and SAM armour? Likewise, if you're a SAM, and you have RNG as your sub, you can still take bows and guns, no?

I'm curious because I still want to be able to do close combat damage, and the meditation bonus from the SAM helmet, but I also want some kind of a ranged weapon I can still manage to hit things with. The agility bonus from the RNG sounds good too, I don't want to be a complete hulking, mass of armour.

[John Doe III]

Originally posted by Tuned Bandit
This is just an idea, and I'm sure I'm not the first person to think of it, but wouldn't a high level RNG/SAM be the biggest damage dealing combo? A 60/30 in this and you could charge your TP, use sidewinder, wash and repeat. Just curious as to what the pros and cons would be, because this has serious possibilities as far as I can see.

P.S.: If I do this, I'll be sure to have a leveled thief as well.

Uhh..if you use the RNG/SAM combo and do your "5 WS's" make sure you get a Thief in your party as long as a tank...They can then transfer the hate over to the Tank..if the monster isn't dead lol. 5 Sidewinders + ~800-1200 damage from a Thief that's gonna leave a mark.

[kanomjeeb]

Hmmm... after reading all of this, I think I'm going to go with SAM/RNG. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but the TP charge, sidewinder would be great for soloing, and I could still use it on occasion in a party, as a finishing blow or something, so long as I didn't go overboard and raise too much hate.

SAM/RNG,, you wouldnt be able to use most bow&gun available.. they are all made for rangers .. /shrug .. =/

[edawg]

Yea SAM cant use most guns/crossbows but im pretty sure they can use some bows. why would SAM sub a RNG if u couldnt use bow?

And on the RNG/NIN idea. Yea it be great to be able to to shoot arrows and then duel wield and use blink to avoid attack. But besides a bow, rangers dont have great ATK with other weapons i believe(like other tanks) And the blink nijitsu is very money consuming.

And on a SAM/RNG. U have to understand tho, to get ur TP up wit samurai and do Sidewinder with RNG IS possible...BUT ur going to need ur bow skill to be at 175 to use sidewinder, and having SAM as sub your most likely gon be using Katana more than your bow. Unless you use ur bow all the time as if u were a ranger(which might piss off PT members) its gon take a hell of a long time to get your bow skill up to 175 to use sidewinder.(i'd think so)

Alas, i still love the SAM/RNG combo and am planning to be one in the game. ;)