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GoW_Draco
06-27-2003, 01:23 AM
is samurai a good main job and dark knight a good sub job to have or is samurai/theif good tell me whats the best sub job for samurai?????
:handsdown
FFXI NeWbIE
06-27-2003, 04:12 AM
ok.......u want best?
WARRIOR.
period.
deusfurs
06-27-2003, 12:50 PM
everyone says warriors the best, well %$#@ the warrior. i think both DRk and THF would be great. youd be one hell of an attacker and that will probably give u plenty of hate. I dont think Square made it nessesary for every melee class to sub as a war. im personally planning on making a sam/drk and start as a thf, but then again im already playing with a set of my friends and we dont care what people pick. dont listen to others, the point is to have fun!!!!! do whatever u want, i know when the NA version is released there will be plenty of a**es like my group who will love to be with a strange combo, (not that SAM/DRK is that strange) so dont sweat it!
HAGAKURE
06-27-2003, 02:01 PM
Very well spoken .. I plan on begin different I may probably be the only Samurai/Ranger to browse these boards
i also think war is very over rated..... im thinking monk or beast Tammer. I want monk for HP and his other goodies.....but i want beast for plant killer and so on....
HAGAKURE
06-27-2003, 04:12 PM
I dont think t hat you can tame beast with beast tamer as your sub-job .. jus to let you know I might not be right tho so knock yourself out
I dont plan to tame them i want the killers.
HAGAKURE your a old school Samurai I like that :handsdown
Keftenk
06-27-2003, 07:45 PM
..you actually can tame beasts with beastmaster as a sub...if you couldnt, that would be one pointless job, cept the xxxx killers are very nice additions ^^
about the samurai/dark knight thing...do not do it, you will have very little mp as it is (like around 40 or so...not like you will use it a lot, but still)...if i were you, since your evlaan...yet it really doesnt matter by race...i suppose, anyways...if you were to use those two jobs, do Dark Knight/Samurai, you will have just a tad less hp then Sam/Dark (like less then 100 hp difference), but you will have more str as a Dark/Sam...meh, buts its your choice...i agree with the Sam/Ranger up there ^^ once or if blue mage is introduced, i will probably the only Mithra Monk/Blue Mage or Blue Mage/Monk around...hehe ;P
deusfurs
06-27-2003, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Keftenk
about the samurai/dark knight thing...do not do it, you will have very little mp as it is
not to argue but the point of this combo would probably be wicked powerful WS, not magic using, most people who pick a SAM arent thinking much about magic. o yeah Blue mage RUles!! they would be way to powerful though, status magic is all powerful in MMoRPGs, lvl 9 death heheh yeah that would rock...
GoW_Draco
06-28-2003, 12:25 AM
ya my bro is a samurai/dark knight and i was just asking for him good too because he was thinking of being that or samurai/ranger because every samurai needs a bow
GoW_Draco
06-28-2003, 12:26 AM
and matter of fact that was his beginning job too lol a theif
HAGAKURE
06-28-2003, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by GoW_Draco
ya my bro is a samurai/dark knight and i was just asking for him good too because he was thinking of being that or samurai/ranger because every samurai needs a bow
tell your brother he is cool and your better listin to every thing he says lol
thank you statement Mr.Gamer!
No problem man you are old school I like that ^_^
davidmmmm9
06-28-2003, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by HAGAKURE
Very well spoken .. I plan on begin different I may probably be the only Samurai/Ranger to browse these boards
hahahahah, nope, too late, already had that idea.
I said from the beginning that when my samurai is high enough so that I can get my bow weapon skill up to 175, I'll sub ranger so I can do sidewinder.
2hr = 4 sidewinders
4 sidewinders = death
HAGAKURE
06-28-2003, 02:23 AM
dang trying to be unique can only go so far if you know what I mean what sort of ranged skill have you learned davidmmmm9
Nodachi
06-28-2003, 02:25 AM
*flame mode* omg Musashiさん?@that is such a stoopid idea . . . think about it man, be courteous of others who play the game. . . if you were to do 4 sidewinders.. . not only would you kill your opponent you would probably shut down ragnarok all together XD
davidmmmm9
06-28-2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Nodachi
*flame mode* omg Musashiさん?@that is such a stoopid idea . . . think about it man, be courteous of others who play the game. . . if you were to do 4 sidewinders.. . not only would you kill your opponent you would probably shut down ragnarok all together XD
hahahahah, error 2306: maximum alloted damage for the server has been exceeded. All servers will now explode.
my ranger is 30, but I've gotten my bow skill up to 104, only 71 more levels until sidewinder :sweat:
HAGAKURE
06-28-2003, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Nodachi
*flame mode* omg Musashiさん?@that is such a stoopid idea . . . think about it man, be courteous of others who play the game. . . if you were to do 4 sidewinders.. . not only would you kill your opponent you would probably shut down ragnarok all together XD
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHA
Thats the funniest thing ive heard all day
Nodachi
06-28-2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by davidmmmm9
hahahahah, error 2306: maximum alloted damage for the server has been exceeded. All servers will now explode.
my ranger is 30, but I've gotten my bow skill up to 104, only 71 more levels until sidewinder :sweat:
gyuh i really need to get my spear level up . . . 90 levels to be precise. .. we should nab a whm sometime and have a skill level PT. i know Cobbi, Orts and Max are interested in one. I want to keep Katana as my main but i really want to have Penta thrust for some PTs. (sorry for straying from the main focus of the thread)
davidmmmm9
06-28-2003, 09:41 AM
I tried leveling mine last night when we did genkai 1
well.... attempted genkai 1
we went to crawlers nest first, I already had exoray item, but that was fine.
then we waited for like an hour.... I have no clue why, I guess people had to go do something really quick.
then to beacedine glacier where I thought we would fight liches for the lich item. which we didn't, went to xacabbard and got teleport crystal, aggroing tons of things on the way, thought we were going to die several times (killed my first demon too! hahahah, finally got to use my demon protection circle)
back to glacier, no idea where we're going.
we zone, into BATALLIA.
I was like OMFG, cuz then we went to eldieme, where I was before we went to glacier. fought some liches for an hour or so, not one drop and like 5 people needed it.
then the jp people decided it was dinner time, so we went back to jueno.
8 hours spent.
16 level for my spear (now 88)
and xacabbard crystal
Serpent
06-29-2003, 02:17 AM
Hmmmm Samurai/Ranger now that sounds bad ass to me :thumbsup:
HAGAKURE
06-29-2003, 02:21 PM
damn right samurai/ranger is bad ass.... it's just like the orginal samurais
Tauguy
06-29-2003, 03:21 PM
wow Sam/Ran is starting to sound Badass to the max!!!
But more on Drk/Sam... How would that work.. would it be a pretty good combo? Tell me benefits etc. im intrested in it now.
Strapps
06-29-2003, 04:28 PM
Ummm... approximately how much damage would four sidewinders do?
Serpent
06-29-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by HAGAKURE
damn right samurai/ranger is bad ass.... it's just like the orginal samurais What can I say , you have just inspired me to be a samurai/ranger as well :handsdown
Rurouni_Kenshin
06-29-2003, 05:36 PM
hi iim GoW_dracos bro and he asked that question for me lol....i guess we inspired alot of people to become different types instead of samurai/warrior..! that was gay anyway..... to many of them are in ff11 we need different types thats y im a samurai/dark knight
HAGAKURE
06-29-2003, 06:30 PM
dude what are you talking about... jus cause your thread got a little off-topic it doesnt mean you inspired us ... I think it was Davidmmmm9 that did most of the inspiring.... even tho ive orginally wanted to be a Samurai/ranger he just stressed the point at how good they are at ranger... and I think here are alot of Samurai/Dark Knights out there
deusfurs
06-30-2003, 07:59 AM
i might be wrong but i think the only way to use Bow/Gun WS is if your mian job is ranger, i dont think having the sub RNg will allow u to use sidewinder. hmmm maybe...
HAGAKURE
06-30-2003, 08:15 AM
Unless you raise up your Bow Weapon Skill while your a Samurai..... and even if you cant yuse sidewinder there are still other ability's you can use from a ranger
davidmmmm9
06-30-2003, 02:30 PM
you can use weapon skills only available to a job when you use it as a sub job. I used bow WS all the time as war/rng
the only thing is that the only jobs that can use a gun are rng, thf, and ninja
so I'm stuck with a bow
and that's fine by me
my crossbow/gun skill is wayyyyyyyyy too low and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to expensive to raise
Reavis
07-01-2003, 01:19 AM
I like the concept behind the Samurai Bow very orginal for FFXI :)
Although im more close combat Samurai myself, so i guess ill keep more with the spears and katanas ;)
Lone Dragon
07-01-2003, 03:57 AM
Going through the stat calculator and each class' abilities, I'd say Drk is the better sub for sam if you're going for a full melee damage dealer.
Plus, Drk has the Weapon Bash ability which should work with 2H Katanas.
The Passive Ability 'Physical Defense Power Up' must be very powerful.
According to the stat calc, Drk has slightly better Vit than War (by 2 points.)
HAGAKURE
07-01-2003, 04:55 AM
Well they have always told me to not trust the stat calculator
Lone Dragon
07-01-2003, 05:41 AM
I considered that, but its still a good guideline and it doesn't necessarily make most of what I said wrong.
The Dark Knight's abilities seem to be focused on sustained strength as opposed to the Warrior's more balanced structure.
I considered that War might still be an equal with Double Attack (you'd be able to build up TP even faster), but I don't think it happens enough for it to be a good reason to sub for sam.
A Monk Sub would only be good for its HP boosts and Accuracy boosting ability.
Thief wont be the best due to the fact that, when you start doing the Sam's 'One-Man Renkei', Sneak Attack and Deceiving Attack would only work for that first attack and you wont want to evade too many attacks because, if I get this TP thing right, it only goes up when you hit or get hit.
Ranger seems interesting, but I'm not sure how effective it would be.
The rest of the melee classes seem a bit too specialized and don't really complement Sam the way Drk, War, Monk, and Thief have the potential to (though sam seems to complement EVERY melee class.)
Personally, I'd go for Sam/Drk
Seulgaist
07-08-2003, 12:23 PM
Well, I kinda feel an obligation to post on this thread, seeing as I am a sam/drk right now.
And I'm gonna have to go with NO on the sam/drk idea. It's a good combo, but if you want your sam to really be usefull might was well stick with the sam/war. Sam/drk is good for the short run, but in terms of taking Samurai as far as you can possibly go, dark knight sub will lose its effectiveness fast base purely on the lack of abilities beyond 30.
Arcane Circle = useless, just like all the circles.
Last Resort = ok, but Beserk adds more attack and lasts a lot longer.
Weapon Bash = completely useless. Almost every monster's special is attack is too long for your weapon bash to work. Without the DRK AF glove's instant stop characteristic, you're not gonna be very usefull at stopping the attack.
Darkness = Fantastic ability, cant give it enough praise. But, you need to get to 60 before you can actually use it.
And well, thats the end of the dark knight abilities. You can forget all about casting magic too, cause you'll be doing none of that. Also, you should really sub warrior to be able to use Penta Thrust WS for spears. Higher level pts are gonna be expecting that.
The only reason I subbed drk is for more attack power and the fact that my war is at 15 and my drk is at 50. In fact, once I get to lvl 55 or 60 with Sam, I'm gonna stop and level my war as much as I can. So you're free to choose whatever sub you'd like (except bst, cause that is the absolute worst sub in the game), but I strongly reccomend subbing war.
deusfurs
07-08-2003, 01:17 PM
:( ...all my dreams...
Lone Dragon
07-08-2003, 05:34 PM
You really didn't say how War is better (but since you have an excuse, I understand why.)
Come back when you actually TRY a War sub,
I'd like to hear an unbiased perspective of someone who has experienced both sides to their fullest.
And just to be clear, I only consider the highest possible lvl when figuring these things out, anything 6 or more lvls below the cap doesn't really matter.
Seulgaist
07-08-2003, 06:25 PM
Hmm....maybe if you actually took the time to READ the post, you would've seen that I made several points on why sub war would be better. But since you seem to be a little thick headed I might as well state it fully and clearly (and in simple english so even YOU could understand):
1. Both drk and war have the attack up passive ability, but war gives more for the first time around (good for the lower leveling up sam).
2. Beserk is better than Last Resort because it A. lasts longer and B. raises your attack stat more.
3. Weapon Bash is useless.
4. Arcane Circle is useless.
5. War gets Double Hit, drk does not.
6. Sub War allows you to use Penta Thrust when using a spear, drk does not.
7. War gets Deffender and a Deffense up passive ability, drk just gets one more attack up.
8. War gets an Accuracy Up, Evasion Down ability, drk gets Darkness, which could easily lead to your death.
9. -TAUNT- (war only)
Well, does this illustrate my point enough? Oh wait, I have too much of a "biased" opinion. How about getting a dictionary and looking up that word, cause I doubt you know what it means. If you do, then you failed to realise that it was missappropriated.
And next time, dont go into asshole mode on me for giving my opinion. Cause you know, I've only been playing for 1300+ hours (seriously), but in that time I've gained 0 knowledge about how FFXI works. I just CANT compare to the veritable behemoth of universal wisdom that is you, Lone Dragon. But, you have an excuse, so I can forgive you. I remember that you dont have the game, and I laugh. Next time, post when you actually PLAY the game.
Nodachi
07-08-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Seulgaist
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5. War gets Double Hit, drk does not.
/comfort Seulgaist - it's ok it's ok ^^; but yeah double hit + katana owns - not only does it end up doing massive amounts of damage in one turn it builds TP even quicker, which samurai can't get enough of.
HAGAKURE
07-08-2003, 07:24 PM
Seulgaist.. much respect for post above ... it's good to see that you can back up your statment with solid evidence
Lone Dragon
07-08-2003, 07:37 PM
Jeez, you took what I said WAY off.
You refered mostly to Drk abilities and how they didn't work instead of listing War abilities and how they did (if I have to make it clear, I'm talking about your first post, not the fire starter 2nd post.)
I wasn't saying that you were biased, I just said I didn't want a biased opinion.
God damn, man. :/
Considering you attitude, you needed to be taken down a notch.
I don't care if you MADE the game, I consider all of my theories valid at the very least.
Lone Dragon
07-08-2003, 07:48 PM
And another thing, you'll notice that I didn't blow up like you did when I have more to be pissed off at.
davidmmmm9
07-08-2003, 08:42 PM
seul seems to get pissed on at people on the forums a lot,
but with good reason. Why would he have to say why warrior is better, it's on every single thread under the samurai part of the forum.
lone, your post sounded rude so he had a right to "blow up".
I get pissed too when people who DON'T HAVE THE GAME think they know a lot more than those that actually play and have experience.
Seulgaist
07-08-2003, 08:46 PM
w00t, samurais unite~
Seulgaist
07-08-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by davidmmmm9
seul seems to get pissed on at people on the forums a lot,
but with good reason.
Ignorance is the catalyst~
Lone Dragon
07-08-2003, 09:14 PM
How I sound is irrelevant.
If you can't understand how I'm talking, that's a personal problem.
At no point did I say I knew more than you, I was explicit in saying that I just thought my theory was valid and that I would appreciate it if Seu could compare Sam/War and Sam/Drk after he built it up.
But apparently that doesn稚 matter anymore.
With that response, Seu brought down this whole topic whether I was being an asshole or not.
Seulgaist
07-08-2003, 11:46 PM
Can someone pass this guy a Midol?
Last time I checked this thread was asking whether sam/drk was a good combination. What I said was always on-topic till you started your little temper tantrum. I guess by answering the question I was "bringing down this whole tpoic" when in fact I prolly gave this guy the best information he could use.
So you know what, just stop trying to argue with me. This all would've been fine had you not acted like a dick in your response. If you want better information, then ask nicely. Is that so hard?
Nodachi
07-09-2003, 12:05 AM
::CLOSED::
>.>_________<.<____-.- (realizes he's no mod. . . ) lol. Honestly? Me thinks Seul is right. Whether he took what Lone said "WAY off" or not Lone could have just merely asked politly to give the information he desired seeing that this wasn't even Lone's thread in the first place. The thing i find odd is why Lone even felt Seulgaist was responding to his post and not GoW's, as he never once addressed Lone in his informational post.
Ah well tho don't stop asking for info on samurai or anything else as your questions are both valid and good ones, just don't act like you have knowledge over someone who plays the game - and be curteous in how you state/ask things such as these - as we're arn't obliged to answer anything here - we do it by choice.
Lone Dragon
07-09-2003, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by Seulgaist
Hmm....maybe if you actually took the time to READ the post, you would've seen that I made several points on why sub war would be better. But since you seem to be a little thick headed I might as well state it fully and clearly (and in simple english so even YOU could understand):
1. Both drk and war have the attack up passive ability, but war gives more for the first time around (good for the lower leveling up sam).
2. Beserk is better than Last Resort because it A. lasts longer and B. raises your attack stat more.
3. Weapon Bash is useless.
4. Arcane Circle is useless.
5. War gets Double Hit, drk does not.
6. Sub War allows you to use Penta Thrust when using a spear, drk does not.
7. War gets Deffender and a Deffense up passive ability, drk just gets one more attack up.
8. War gets an Accuracy Up, Evasion Down ability, drk gets Darkness, which could easily lead to your death.
9. -TAUNT- (war only)
Well, does this illustrate my point enough? Oh wait, I have too much of a "biased" opinion. How about getting a dictionary and looking up that word, cause I doubt you know what it means. If you do, then you failed to realise that it was missappropriated.
And next time, don?ft go into asshole mode on me for giving my opinion. Cause you know, I've only been playing for 1300+ hours (seriously), but in that time I've gained 0 knowledge about how FFXI works. I just CANT compare to the veritable behemoth of universal wisdom that is you, Lone Dragon. But, you have an excuse, so I can forgive you. I remember that you dont have the game, and I laugh. Next time, post when you actually PLAY the game.
You're really trying to say that wasn't directed at me?
I want to make this clear, I may have been a little curt in my first response (the one BEFORE this one), but you had no reason to go off like that and no right to call me names.
Considering how you seem to be going on, I'm the only one who hasn't fully degraded myself.
I may be a wee bit arrogant, but at least I try to stay civil (and I've had worse bs thrown at me.)
I'm not gunna plead my case to YOU or anyone, I just want to say, without any emotional connotation, that you are WRONG.
Wrong by ruining this otherwise nice topic, wrong in your interpretation of my posts, wrong by blowing up, and wrong by thinking you're in the right just because you are playing the game and I'm not.
Now, you can either respond and say some more bs and this can go on until someone closes the topic or you stop talking (cuz I sure as hell wont ^^) or at least play nice and start building up your friggin Warrior so we can settle this.
I want to hear from ONE person the differences of each sub, and you?fre the only one I could find to ask.
Now do it.....plz. XD
Seulgaist
07-09-2003, 06:34 AM
I think we can simply end this arguement by saying you're a boner and you make baby jesus cry.
Lone Dragon
07-09-2003, 06:43 AM
DAMN, that was fast.
Say something of worth, you know I'm not being an asshole.
Edit: Better yet, lets settle this in the chat, we're taking up too much space already.
Seulgaist
07-09-2003, 06:49 AM
Screw that...
You keep failing to see that you're in the wrong, and other people agree with me. I dont care if I misinterpreted your post just a bit, you still wrote in a way that was rude, arrogant, and aggressive. I had EVERY right to talk to you the way I did cause you know what, you started the BS first. Just go a reread your post. Dont look at what you intented to say, and just look at your choice of words. It'll prove my point quite nicely.
Lone Dragon
07-09-2003, 06:53 AM
I know how I sounded and I don't care.
Couldn't you have ACTED like it didn't piss you off and make a snide remark?
How I sound doesn't matter, it never does and how you take it is YOUR problem, so this still falls TO YOU.
And it was more curt than anything. :p
Seulgaist
07-09-2003, 07:02 AM
Next time, just try not to but in when I'm trying to help someone else out. The only time I ever meant to talk to you was to reply to your rudeness.
Lone Dragon
07-09-2003, 07:04 AM
Ok, I'll admit I was being somewhat ...ok, pretty rude, but honestly, do you really think you were being any more civil?
I just believe what I meant is more important than what I said.
Lone Dragon
07-09-2003, 07:11 AM
ALSO, you didn't HAVE to respond to whatever I said.
I believe the only thing that pissed you off is that I put 'try' in all caps, but you had said that you hadn't tried it yet,
I thought I was encouraging you............ok, that reeks of bullshit,
but I don't see why you would take it so badly.
Seulgaist
07-09-2003, 07:14 AM
I didnt do it for your sake, I did it for others who also may have felt the first post wasnt enough. How egotistical of you to think its ALL about you :thumbsup:
Lone Dragon
07-09-2003, 07:15 AM
Har dee har har. :p
Ah well, this didn't go as badly as I thought it would.
At least I can laugh about it later.
anavrin
07-09-2003, 06:21 PM
http://www.geocities.com/spectralfires/eliza.html
eliza is such a slut.
vagtark
07-09-2003, 06:28 PM
...............
razor_hitman
07-09-2003, 08:26 PM
:spin: Do your ears hang low? :spin:
Do they wobble to and fro?
Can you tie in a knot?
Can you tie in a bow?
Can you throw them over your shoulder, like a continental soldier?
:spin: Do your ears hang low? :spin:
Rurouni_Kenshin
07-13-2003, 11:19 PM
hey suel thanks to replying to my bros thread i got another question to as? id sam/ranger, sam/theif good too ?
Rurouni_Kenshin
07-13-2003, 11:20 PM
and can i get a pick of ur samurai dark knight
:handsdown
Nodachi
07-14-2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by Rurouni_Kenshin
and can i get a pick of ur samurai dark knight
:handsdown
A samurai/dark knight won't look any different from a samurai / any job - so if you've seen one samurai you've seen em all. as far as sam/rng - i think sam/ranger could have potential with the WS and renkei factor - especially if you have the skill called sidewinder learend for your bow (this won't be till the higher levels). but hmm again i don't see it being as effective in a PT scenario as sam/war =\ hate to keep bringing sam/war up but it's the truth imo.
StarRealms
07-14-2003, 09:49 AM
I'll just say this... If I'm forming a PT... I'll only invite Samurai/Warrior... nothing else (unless I'm desperate and there's like no one else on)
Rurouni_Kenshin
07-14-2003, 06:35 PM
well do u think samurai/theif will be good cause the theif has a passive skill u get to attack 3 times only somtimes. and the warrior says u get to attack twice and its only sometimes too. but i would think with ur samuraie u also need evading skills to or am i wrong? p.s. so u are saying samurai/ranger is also another good combo because of a sidewinder move, but isnt sidewinder active and once u use it u have to wait like 2 hours?
Rurouni_Kenshin
07-14-2003, 06:46 PM
nevermind sidewinder is weapon ability ...lol
Rurouni_Kenshin
07-14-2003, 06:46 PM
nevermind sidewinder is weapon ability ...lol:thumbsup:
HAGAKURE
07-14-2003, 09:08 PM
huh? dude your confusing me with so many post at once ....:rolleyes:
Nodachi
07-15-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Rurouni_Kenshin
well do u think samurai/theif will be good cause the theif has a passive skill u get to attack 3 times only somtimes. and the warrior says u get to attack twice and its only sometimes too. but i would think with ur samuraie u also need evading skills to or am i wrong? p.s. so u are saying samurai/ranger is also another good combo because of a sidewinder move, but isnt sidewinder active and once u use it u have to wait like 2 hours?
The thing about subbing thief is your main can't currently get high enough to sub thief and have the passive ability tripple attack. i don't think thieves get the tripple attack passive ability until about 50 *too lazy to check* but i know you can't sub it and have it. and really back stab and fukudama really don't make a huge improvement when subd - meerly make it so you're gauranteed to land a critical. so i really don't think thief would be so hot as a sub. ( i once thought about going along with sam/thieft but i too saw the light)
Hisdon
07-17-2003, 05:35 AM
what about subbing Samurai for Dark Knight? I'm been thinking that would be one hell of a combo
attack, with TP gain, WS, attack, WS, attack, WS...not sure if you could do it that often though, I heard the level 30 skill gives you 100 TP in 5 secounds, and being it takes a DRK nearly that time to attack, the above would be devastating...
Demon_of_Elru
08-07-2003, 09:55 PM
LOL!!!! LMAO!! ROFL!! That argument was so funny!! LOL
.......................... :)........anyway, Seulgaist you've just validated my choice of Sam/War :handsdown thanks!!
EDIT: Oh Hisdon, read the previous posts which will answer your question, you'll find it just before the arguing.............LOL!!
John Doe III
08-07-2003, 11:01 PM
Stop it with the dumb comments why Dark would be a bad sub and to always go with WAR. And also how PT's will be expecting it. WHO CARES! This is a game and people want to have fun and try different things out even if they are bad. I wouldn't be suprised if I tried something else weird like Ranger/BST. Are there any positive things to sub of Dark? There has to be such as attack power.
Lone Dragon
08-08-2003, 12:08 AM
it continues... ._.
Must...let it........lie.......
Nodachi
08-08-2003, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by Hisdon
what about subbing Samurai for Dark Knight? I'm been thinking that would be one hell of a combo
attack, with TP gain, WS, attack, WS, attack, WS...not sure if you could do it that often though, I heard the level 30 skill gives you 100 TP in 5 secounds, and being it takes a DRK nearly that time to attack, the above would be devastating...
The main problem with DRK/SAM is you better hope you kill the frikkin thing with all your WS. otherwise you're going to have so much hate on you not even a pld with a thief partnered with him will be able to take it off you. and for those who don't know - DRK + Hate + long battle = near instant death lol.
am i the only one that hates that hollow bastion sig? its a stolen image from the Bastok Knights' website logo.
JohnDragon
08-24-2003, 04:32 PM
Im coing whit samurai/Warrior cus i want to be a graet swords man in the game. I dont like bows or axes i dont want to use magic and fist arent me i just want my char to be like me.I mean if you want to be a samurai/drak knight or thif or any other job all power to you i like to see variety in this game as long as some one dosint try to chand me.Im not being these jobs for stats im being them cus i like them if i liked the two worts jods together id be them ok ok just thote id say that.
davidmmmm9
08-24-2003, 06:07 PM
omfg, learn how to type, spell, use grammer.
I got a headache just trying to read your dribble.
I wonder can a Monk go well with a Samurai? Since they both are good at Renkei any thoughts?
-Rico-
JohnDragon
08-24-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by davidmmmm9
omfg, learn how to type, spell, use grammer.
I got a headache just trying to read your dribble.
You no befor you be a jerk to me may be you should no some thing i have a lerning disibelity ok so dont be a jerk i cant spell that well or do math so dont be a jerk ok.
Looks like somone should say sorry :rolleyes:
-Rico-
JohnDragon
08-24-2003, 08:31 PM
Ya he should my bother and sister have it to im good all other school stuff but spelling and math.
davidmmmm9
08-25-2003, 02:49 AM
I apologize to all 8 year olds with learning dissabilities.
I'll help you out.
"You no befor you be a jerk to me may be you should no some thing i have a lerning disibelity ok so dont be a jerk i cant spell that well or do math so dont be a jerk ok."
You know before you be a jerk to me, maybe you should know something. I have a learning disability, ok? So don't be a jerk, I can't spell that well or do math. So don't be a jerk, ok?
And besides writing and math there is....... science, and.... geography?
Good luck on your SAT's
Azrael deFenris
08-25-2003, 03:26 AM
LoL... wow. Remind me to never ask davidmmmm for an apology...
zsedc
08-25-2003, 03:55 AM
vit & hp bonus from MNK sub shld be gd esp w/ +hate AFs
Nodachi
08-25-2003, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by davidmmmm9
I apologize to all 8 year olds with learning dissabilities.
I'll help you out.
"You no befor you be a jerk to me may be you should no some thing i have a lerning disibelity ok so dont be a jerk i cant spell that well or do math so dont be a jerk ok."
You know before you be a jerk to me, maybe you should know something. I have a learning disability, ok? So don't be a jerk, I can't spell that well or do math. So don't be a jerk, ok?
And besides writing and math there is....... science, and.... geography?
Good luck on your SAT's
Wow that's kinda harsh. . . maybe we should ask why your japanese hasn't improved that much even with the time you've played the game Davidmmmm9, or why your parties you have formed often tend to be hmm, "lack luster".
Sorry for that but who cares whether the guy's post was riddled with typos - unless you're an english teacher, and he's in your class, you shouldn't give two shyts. . . especially if he really does have a learning disability? I'm sure he's had hard enough of a time dealing with that let alone have to put up with a post like that as well.
Seulgaist
08-25-2003, 07:15 AM
I say we all point and laugh and Davidmmmm9. He has certainly deserved it.
davidmmmm9
08-25-2003, 09:01 AM
who says my japanese hasn't improved and when have you ever been in a party that I made?
Seulgaist
08-25-2003, 09:11 AM
Still doesnt change the fact that you were way outta line with your comments.
davidmmmm9
08-25-2003, 11:30 AM
that's an opinion and I think he's lying.
If it really is a serious learning disability than I am sorry, but I know kids with learning disabilities that are like 10 and write better than that.
Azrael deFenris
08-26-2003, 02:50 AM
Well, wouldn't that fact actually convince you more that he has learning problems?
I mean, if I know a 10 year old w/ a learning disability and that person writes better than this person I am talking to... and they say they have a learning disability... I'd probably belive him. I doubt he would make it that confusing on purpose.
Nodachi
08-26-2003, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by davidmmmm9
who says my japanese hasn't improved and when have you ever been in a party that I made?
I am one who dislikes all the gossip on xi but those two issues have been thrown around the server a bit. And no i havn't been in one of your PT but i remember you always telling me how they wern't going so hot.
JohnDragon
08-26-2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by davidmmmm9
that's an opinion and I think he's lying.
If it really is a serious learning disability than I am sorry, but I know kids with learning disabilities that are like 10 and write better than that. Ok this is the last thing im saying to you you just sayin im lying cus you dont want to be wrong.Your nat a doc or a techer so you wudint no the are all difrint kinds learning disability and whit mine all i am bad at in school ismath and spelling i get As and Bs in all other stuff.
Originally posted by davidmmmm9
that's an opinion and I think he's lying.
If it really is a serious learning disability than I am sorry, but I know kids with learning disabilities that are like 10 and write better than that.
Hahaha probably the funniest/dumbest thing you've said yet. Are you trying to tell me that all learning disabilites are the same?
Swiftblade
09-04-2003, 11:57 PM
Oh man, don't even mention the SATs, I have to do the SATs this year it sucks :(
Oh right the topic, I haven't been reading up on FFXI as much as I should be but it looks to me that Sam/Drk or Drk/Sam would be a powerhouse combo to use, total dps. However it would take like a level 400 paladin or a lot of naked chicks to taunt the sonna bitch off you...k that probably was a newblike comment but who cares because it was funny :)
Also, one of my best friends has a learning disability, well a speech disability is more like it, so don't make fun of people like that it's just not right...
Oh and the fight between Lone Dragon and Seulgaist, Seul you should be just a little nicer in your posts and Lone Dragon, don't try to act like you know more than the importers who have been playing this game a lot longer than you've been following it, they know their shit.
Also I think, even though partying would be a tough thing with all the jerks out there who only accept "elite" combos, that anyone should be able to use any jobs they want. (except beast tamer because I mean, cmon XD)
I just don't want to see this game end up as serious as EverQuest, because getting high levels is cool but believe me, day after day of raiding ToV, raiding and flagging and back flagging and then dying and flagging some more and...oh man I'm getting a headache, IT'S NOT WORTH IT MAN, BE A NEWB HAVE FUN DON'T TURN THIS INTO AN OBLIGATION...
end of sermon
fire904
09-06-2003, 06:55 PM
There is nothing wrong with some constructive criticism. there is no reason to "point and laugh" at davidmmmm9. That post was shocking and it took me a while to read and make out the words. Im not trying to insult anyone here im just offering some advice. For your next post use a spell check mayb that will help. Also how about you all get off davidmmmm9's back. i dont think he has any reason to apoligize. Remeber its just constructive criticism.
Originally posted by fire904
There is nothing wrong with some constructive criticism. there is no reason to "point and laugh" at davidmmmm9. That post was shocking and it took me a while to read and make out the words. Im not trying to insult anyone here im just offering some advice. For your next post use a spell check mayb that will help. Also how about you all get off davidmmmm9's back. i dont think he has any reason to apoligize. Remeber its just constructive criticism.
There is a difference between constructive criticism and making fun...
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