[Taskmage]

Somepage lists the mods like this:

• Outside of Nation Controlled Area: Intelligence +1
• Mind +1
• Enfeebling Magic Skill +7
• Elemental Magic Skill +7

while in game the formatting is more like this:

In areas outside own nation's control:
INT+1 MND+1 Enfeebling Magic Skill +7
Elemental Magic Skill +7

Exactly which mods have the conquest dependency? All of them? Also, I read that none of the "nation's control" dependant items work in ToAU areas. Is that right? That certainly makes these much less appealing considering all the invites at those levels come from Whitegate now.

[Liquidedust]

Originally Posted by Taskmage

Somepage lists the mods like this:

• Outside of Nation Controlled Area: Intelligence +1
• Mind +1
• Enfeebling Magic Skill +7
• Elemental Magic Skill +7

while in game the formatting is more like this:

In areas outside own nation's control:
INT+1 MND+1 Enfeebling Magic Skill +7
Elemental Magic Skill +7

Exactly which mods have the conquest dependency? All of them? Also, I read that none of the "nation's control" dependant items work in ToAU areas. Is that right? That certainly makes these much less appealing considering all the invites at those levels come from Whitegate now.

All of the effects from the Bracelets are "Outside of own nations control".



And yes "nations control" item doesn't work in ToAU areas since they aren't subject to conquest and hencefourth Signet doesn't work there (even if you have it active). Basically in order for a nations control item you must fulfil three things.

1. Have signet on
2. Be in an area that is subject to conquest
3. Match the trigger of "nations control" (outsie, inside etc . . .)

[Kirsteena]

They are good for things like Dynamis - for some reason, all Dynamis areas (even your home city) are counted as outside your Nations control. They also work in sea I believe...

[Taskmage]

Hmm well they're still on my list to get then, but that makes them much lower priority as far as experience parties for the next while are concerned. Kindof a disappointment and kindof a relief really since I have no idea who I'm going to get to help me with these missions.

They look good for Maat, though. They do work in BCNMs, right? Maybe I'll pick them up when I'm 70.

[tdh]

Originally Posted by Liquidedust

And yes "nations control" item doesn't work in ToAU areas since they aren't subject to conquest and hencefourth Signet doesn't work there (even if you have it active). Basically in order for a nations control item you must fulfil three things.

Are we sure about this? Or has this changed? At one point I tried using the same Bracelets, with my Signet on in the Mire and I had the Skill and base stats. This may have changed, but I have tested this with Signet in ToAU areas and still gotten the Skill.

I have these, and honestly I never use them, or notice a difference when I do remember to use them. Might become more useful in Dynamis or HNM Activities.

[Taskmage]

Icemage reported a while back that having Sanction on counted for triggering the effects when in conquest areas, so if it works in expansion areas at all it makes sense that people would notice it with Sanction on.

You never use these? People pay out the butt for +7 to those skills on torques so I figured these would be much loved. What do you use instead? I've been using Devotee's Mitts forever and swapping in my AF gloves for black magic (since I keep forgetting about Sly Gaunts), but I can't imagine +5 mnd or +3 int ever being more useful for me on an offensive spell than +7 skill.

[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by Taskmage

Icemage reported a while back that having Sanction on counted for triggering the effects when in conquest areas, so if it works in expansion areas at all it makes sense that people would notice it with Sanction on.

I really hope this is true, I suppose I could find out one day but I'll probably forget to. It makes sense that they would, While the new areas are not subject to Cnquest, that just means they will never be under your nations control; they should always work.

I did all that work to get rank 8 too and thinking that I won't be able to use them a lot when I EXP my RDM again kind of sucks. And they do work when you're up against Maat, unless you got sent to Balga's Dais I suppose.

Edit: Meh, I'm going to go find out now before I forget.
Yep, it sucks, they don't work.

[Icemage]

Sanction does in fact trigger Conquest gear the same way Signet will.

However, ToAU zones are completely immune to conquest gear. So Republic Gold Medal, Master Caster's Bracelets, Presidential Hairpin, etc. do not work anywhere in ToAU zones, no matter if you have Signet or Sanction on.

It's still fantastic stuff though; conquest gear does work in:

BCNMs
Nation control conditions must still be met - i.e. Master Caster's Bracelets generally won't work for you in Waughroon Shrine/Palborough Mines BCNMs if you're current city affiliation is Bastok.

ENMs
Same as above, you still have to meet the nation conquest conditions. If you're doing ENM at Mine Shaft #2718 and you're Windurstian, your Master Caster's Bracelets will not work if Windurst controls Movalpolos.

Dynamis
All "outside nation's control" gear works in Dynamis so long as you have Signet or Sanction active, regardless of city affiliation.

Tu'lia / sky
Same conditions as BCNM and ENM, outside/inside control conditions must still be met, depending on what city controls the Tu'lia region.

Lumoria / sea
All "outside nation's control" gear works in all areas of Lumoria, including Al'taieu and related zones, as well as all parts of Limbus (Temenos and Apollyon).


Icemage

[Taskmage]

Shattering Stars RDM is always in Waughroon Shrine, right?

Nobody ever ever controls Movalpolos on Lakshmi, but unfortunately for me Windy almost always controls Tu'lia.

[Gobo]

Originally Posted by Taskmage

Shattering Stars RDM is always in Waughroon Shrine, right?

That it is. Now that I think about it, I kinda wish I had my Mst. Casters Braclets when I fought maat. Probably would have made the whole sleeping thing easier.

[Vasilis]

Are these bracelets really all people say they are? I mean does the Enfeebling Magic Skill +7,and Elemental Magic Skill +7 really show that much more diffrence? I am a 68 rdm, and I was wondering.

[Icemage]

Originally Posted by Vasilis

Are these bracelets really all people say they are?

When they're active, they are hands down the best gloves a RDM can wear most of the time.


Icemage