Warrior Nation [WNx] Recruiting!

[Murphie]

Your face goes under New Posts.

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Like I said, everything.

[Ziero]

Didn't know social linkshells had to have a bunch of info all over there site, oh no Zeiro we are doing it wrong.

To the OP good luck with your linkshell.

Doing it wrong is what my LS does best!

[WNxDHare3]

I never said anything bad about other LS's I was merely stating the fact that mine was a Clan LS, which is much more organized than a regular LS, which is true, you may have forums and such for your LS, that is nice and all, but the amount of time and effort that the hierarchy of the clan and section put into getting this game into the clan is unbelievable, there is a pride that comes with this clan and LS included, so we really put time into what we do, like a second job.

Yes, "EVENTS" include many things, I' am glad you pointed that one out, but it is nice to have a place to hold the list of events, you may not think it up 5 seconds ago, but its different to say, "HEY LS LETS DO SOMETHING TOMARROW!!!" And "Hey guys, how about in a few weeks, on this date we camp this NM, or w.e, at 9 o clock, who wants to sign up?"...

You are misinterpreting the idea of a clan, yes there are a number of other games on the site, but it isn't exactly hard to scroll down a bit to find the game you are in, no to mention, all the games are set up and organized in game type, each games forum is organized, and constantly checked..

All in All, I never underestimated any LS, I have been in quite a few social LS's and I love them all, they are all rather fun, but none as involved, organized, and rewarding as joining a Clan LS, you may have your doubts, but it is a mere fact, or opinion, backed by many, that I' am stating. I' am happy for you, that you have nice organized LS's, just don't dog on mine, just because you don't like the idea.

[Icemage]

If I might make an observation, the best linkshells in FFXI don't need to advertise. They attract members by reputation or word of mouth.

Any clan or guild that just lets "anyone" join is doomed to mediocrity in FFXI, as letting undesirable or incompetent people stick around brings down the whole group.


Icemage

[Duncan Idaho]

From the way you describe the "Clan" you are starting, it reminds me of a ls that i knew of on Fairy about a year ago. They were thoroughly organized and required you to participate before you could ask for things in return. They even had a listing on their web page on what missions, items, quest they would do for non members for a price.... Some of the harder missions even required you to bring certain jobs that would contribute to the effort or else.

I saw how this type of ls was good for some what established established players, it really did nothing for new players or people that want to learn how to do their job better. I knew many players going through mid levels for the first time asking for help from this group (while being a member of it) that eventually were kicked out for not contributing an equal or greater amount than what they were asking for.

I guess the point I am getting to is don't over organize it to the point that it is run like a business. That really takes the fun out of the whole game. I have been in many shells that organize to get things done and really enjoyed them. Any MMO would be pointless without friends to play with. So be sure to concentrate on the "Friends" word and the rest should be cake

BTW that ls disbanded after much much drama that was know server wide, so yes word of mouth does carry a lot of weight imo.

[IfritnoItazura]

just don't dog on mine, just because you don't like the idea.

Didn't mean to "dog" on your LS (would be hard to, anyway, since so little solid info is available), but I'll admit to be mildly offended by the way you dismissed (non-clan) linkshells in one sweep.

I am curious about what events did your clan LS organized in the past few months? What about up coming events? (I tried looking around your forum/website, but there seems to be no info beyond a list of "game leaders". Guess the info is members only or something?)

It'd interesting to have a more concrete comparison of how similar you are to a typical LS, and how different.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

I'm still not seeing the problem everyone seems to be having with the topic.

It's a clan, FFXI is one of the games they play. This linkshell is an extention of that clan that plays other games and thier "events" somtimes pertain to playing Unreal or Battlefield 1942 or something else.

I will concede that unlike other MMORPGs, FFXI isn't quite a fit for people who want to casually play games together in a clan environment. FFXI has a pretty steep learning curve and takes a lot more commitment than most MMOs do, even for a pre-WoW MMO.

Still, its thier social experiement to dabble in, if he wants to try - let him. If it works, great. If it doesn't, he'll find out soon enough.

[Ziero]

Just a question

Why are people making a big deal out of what the OP is saying? He's just advertising his LS just like the countless others who've done the same thing here before him. Other then being part of a "Clan" there's nothing new here, it's just another small LS starting out and looking for members.

[WNxDHare3]

To Duncan, there is a wide variety of experience within the clan, we accept anyone, that is not a bad thing btw, we accept new players, and are willing to help them any way we can, but also set up events and gatherings for other players, within the required level. So, we are quite organized, but if you do not want to get into the whole clan thing, we accept that, you join, are active on the forums and such, then you don't have to do the events, bring whatever you want, we will only recommend what to bring. As I said before, once again, I did not "swipe" all LS's, I' am sure there are nice organized LS's I was speaking in general.

To Ifrit, like I have said before, I' am starting up the section within the clan, for those that don't understand, this means I' am still in the recruiting process, we so far have our own thread, and official sign up thread, when we a get a required amount of members, we get our own forum, currently, I' am the head of the "to be section", with a few helpers. As for events, we have only just started, so far it has only been NM's, lvling parties, and some quests. Some other members have started up Ballistas aswell as Promys, so there are more to come. I don't really understand what you want from me, I have given my comparisons, read them over if you would like, simply put? CLAN LS = Awards, Ribbons, Organization, Friends, Fun, etc, ask more about awards and such if you would like, REGULAR LS = Fun, Friends, Not a lot of activity, in comparison/in general.

To OMG, xD... Thx, yes this is quite the experiment, that many have tried/are trying, it has proved effective and fun, if the members are active that is. If it doesn't work, I' am ok with that, I tried, I will just continue playing.

To Ziero, yes thx again, it really is me just advertising my clan/LS, I didn't expect to be attacked for the idea, I have put a lot of time, effort, and work into getting this to work, and don't expect this to work out much differently from a regular LS. Recruiting that is.

[IfritnoItazura]

To Ifrit, like I have said before, I' am starting up the section within the clan, for those that don't understand, this means I' am still in the recruiting process, we so far have our own thread, and official sign up thread, when we a get a required amount of members, we get our own forum, currently, I' am the head of the "to be section", with a few helpers. As for events, we have only just started, so far it has only been NM's, lvling parties, and some quests. Some other members have started up Ballistas aswell as Promys, so there are more to come. I don't really understand what you want from me, I have given my comparisons, read them over if you would like, simply put? CLAN LS = Awards, Ribbons, Organization, Friends, Fun, etc, ask more about awards and such if you would like, REGULAR LS = Fun, Friends, Not a lot of activity, in comparison/in general.

What I wanted was the details, to back up your claim that your clan LS is more organized than a "regular" LS. (And, you've finally provided some details; "more organized" isn't a comparison--it's a claim of superiority, sans proof.)

In other words, you have the "intention" to be more organized and better utilize the forum you have, but the clan LS is not there, yet. Your idea of a "regular" LS is pretty skewed, too.

It's not that I mind you having pride in your clan LS, it's the attitude "We're better than the rest" which bugs me--especially in light that your LS doesn't have much of a history to back up your claims, and well, even I probably have a more organized and active social (or "regular" in your term) LS than you do.

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To potential would be members, this is the most concrete description of his clan LS the OP has provided:

As for events, we have only just started, so far it has only been NM's, lvling parties, and some quests. Some other members have started up Ballistas aswell as Promys, so there are more to come.

(Good to have truth in advertisement, no?)

IMO, that sounds like a perfectly fine "up-and-coming LS", and someone who joins should have an opportunity to help build up and better the LS, but probably shouldn't expect the capcity for attempting some of the more difficult/messy/annoying quests/NMs (e.g. Rostrum Pumps, Soboro Sukehiro, etc.) in the near term.

[WNxDHare3]

I never said we were better then the rest, you seem to have a problem understanding this, I never lied about my advertisement at all, and I dont care about your LS's and they're "organization", please leave this thread for discussion about the linkshell, and actual discussion, please do not post criticism based on opinion, you do not know the facts, and that is intentional, I left contact information in my first post for those interested, so I can further explain.

[Murphie]

Itazura, let it go. Jesus. You're the only one who has a problem with this, which should be an indicator that you're taking it too seriously.

[TheGrandMom]

The OP is starting an ls and if you are interested in joining then please contact him. If you are on Hades , genuinely interested, and have a valid question pertaining to his ls then feel free to ask it.

[WNxDHare3]

Thank you to you both. I certainly hope the recent "discussions" have not scared off any potential members xD