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Old 10-30-2008, 03:16 PM   #1
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Ballista 1 on 1

Which job do you think would be the job that could win the most on 1 versus 1 Ballista? I know there are alot of different scenarios, so this is where you could post them.
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I would think a MNK/NIN wearing +HP and +Vit armor would be tough. I was fighting a friend that came this way + a BB, he pwned. I came NIN/RDM. Other's that came that got wasted were: SAM/NIN, BLM/WHM, RDM/NIN, and THF/NIN. He took little damage and attacked so fast, it made me think this could be the toughest job to beat 1 on 1 in ballista...

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Old 10-30-2008, 03:51 PM   #2
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

Mnk/Dnc with faith Baghknaks. (I butchered the word)
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Old 10-30-2008, 04:37 PM   #3
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

Depends on the situation?

I mean technically if given enough distance a BLM/SCH can alacrity + sleepga and then it's all over...


Otherwise if it's a fight between melee I'm giving it to a SAM with Kogarasumaru.
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

I've heard things about BLU raping faces.
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

I thought RDM/NIN was the undisputed king? Also does this allow for 2h usage?
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

Yeah, if 2 hours are brought into the mix...


There's no stopping a RDM, period.
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

From what I've seen and done, if you want a good fight where both sides stand a chance of either winning or losing (roughly) equally, you pretty much have to ban both Blue Mage and Red Mage. Both of those jobs currently dominate Ballista PvP so much it's almost criminal. Red Mage does take it from Blue Mage due to omnidirectional, non-facing-dependant, longer range Silence and Sleep, but other than that, they stand on relatively equal footing: the backs of the other 18 jobs.

I do hear solid things about good Monk, Ninja, Samurai, and Dark Knight builds, while Scholar, White Mage, and Bard are surprise contenders from the mage side. Paladins are great in PvP, if only to distract enemies and absorb hits for teammates; however, do be careful of mindful players who realize that Paladin isn't to get Gate Breaches on, but to use as an Aspir battery. If you're gonna bring a pet job, look to Puppetmaster (surprisingly, of all things) to be the leader of the pack. That doll can take a beating and dish one out, and a geared PUP themselves can also present a threat. Beastmaster could use jugs to good effect, but realize that there are few good jugs to use in this situation that will be effective. A Dragoon can count on never calling their wyvern; the thing is just too easy a Gate Breach waiting to happen.

Stay the hell away from Summoner; you're nothing but a free Gate Breach and extra TP to the other team. Every time you spawn. Period.
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

Well, my personal experience has been with PLD/RDM. Given a minute to buff up before the fight (Stoneskin, Phalanx, Blink, etc) personally I don't think any melee can beat the combination. I never do ballista, but recently I started playing with PLD/RDM, and this is what I have tried so far:

THF/NIN - Thf was using Mercurial Kris... He did 0 dmg for the entire fight... Literally killed himself too. Mercurial Kris + Triple Attack on a target with blaze spikes = death. He dropped dead before my tp even reached 50%. Didn't even need to recast Stoneskin either. (I believe my Phalanx was absorbing all his dmg and my stoneskin never took a hit)

SAM/DNC - 0 Dmg for most of the fight, since he was hitting for 0. He used meditate, and used the TP to heal, then used Meikyo Shisui, first weapon skill did 0 dmg, second did around 37 (took stoneskin off) third did 300. That was all the dmg he did before dying.

DRK/WAR - interesting fight... Nonetheless the DRK lost (In addition to Stoneskin/Phalanx/Blink then you have Flash/Reprisal/Shield Bash/Sentinel etc etc.

WAR/NIN - One-handed weapons have no chance where 2-Handed weapons do 0 dmg.

That was all I tried. However, PLD/RDM is bound to have some serious trouble with a BLM, SCH, or a RDM. But, I believe any job would have trouble with those XD Sleepga II + Nukes

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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

RDM/DRK, RDM/BLU, PLD/RDM. All are destroyers of worlds. I personally prefer RDM/DRK myself, though the most epic 1v1 fight I've ever had was vs. a RDM/BLU(he actually would have won in the end, but the match ended with me @ 4 HP and Bio II on. PLD/RDM is pretty buff, but like most every other mage, a RDM can always just Silence them. BLU is hax for damage, but again can just be silenced/para'd.
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

Watching a good NIN and PLD duke it out is also pretty fun >.>
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

Yeah, I did it NIN/RDM versus one of the guys in my LS, PLD/RDM. i was a long fight, but even with fully merited chivalry, his timer wasn't up in time, and I KO'ed him. As long as you can time your stoneskin right will your shadows, he couldn't really get any hits in. The timing of Jin against flash is vital too... It was a good time...
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

RDM vs. RDM is only fun to watch if you make a rule about no Silence, otherwise it's just a slap fight of Silence and Dispel.
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

Did sam/rng with soboro against a rdm/nin. I won due to the fact that he didn't want to keep me at distance and wanted to try to melee me to death.

gekko (silence) ftw and soboro for shadows

If he kept me at distance I would have been a sittig duck i think.
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Re: Ballista 1 on 1

For melee BLU/PLD or BLU/RDM is what I would definitely go for. I've seen BLUs destroy people when watching ballista matches. lolPUP is definitely up there too. Those little dolls can cast tier 4 nukes. If 2 hours are allowed then you won't stop a MNK/DNC unless you are a RDM, WHM (maybe) or PLD before you're dead to the 2 hour + Asuran Fists.

For mages RDM is king with SMN a close second for fairly obvious reasons relating to their 2 hour abilities. However if there was a no 2 hour rule I would definitely support a BLM/SCH or BLM/anything for that matter.

RNG/NIN can also easily come out on top with Bloody Bolts and Sleep Bolts against most classes.

And the person who said WHM would do well in ballista has probably never played as a WHM in PvP before. I barely have any buffs up before I'm voked/sleepbolted/silenced then pummelled/nuked/arrow'd into oblivion for an easy gate breach. Never come as WHM in Ballista, you'll just be a liability. I spend most of my time in it as a corpse .

However I can see WHM/SCH doing relatively well in 1v1 against most melee classes but I can't see WHM/anything standing up to any reasonably competent RDM, BLU or BLM.
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