[Galkarion]

Any reason you need to come trolling? Cause ya know....I haven't seen you post anything about getting FFXI working on Linux. But please, if you know a better way do post it. I'm posting from my experience, what I had to do to get it working. Doesn't matter what your opinion is about how I did it, unless you can do it better. If you can't do it better, then try to be supportive/helpful instead of pompous.

[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by Galkarion

I haven't seen you post anything about getting FFXI working on Linux

Not possible at this time, and I have said that several times.

Oh, and your 'revelation' that 'suddenly' it worked on VMware:
VMware Fusion 2 Beta 1

And yes, I can do better. I could partition that drive, install windows on it and FFXI in that and been playing the whole time without that layer of virtualization.

Oh, and for future reference, trolling does not mean being told you're wrong.

[Galkarion]

Well you're correct about VMWare Fusion 2 Beta (don't use a Mac, so I could care less). But FFXI is running in Linux, whether it's in a virtual machine or not. How am I wrong about that?

[Feba]

Originally Posted by Galkarion

But FFXI is running in Linux,

No, it isn't. FFXI is running in Windows XP, same as it always has. There's a virtual machine that's capable of running FFXI within XP. Yay. But you're still not running it in linux.

Three reasons:
1- This (legally) requires a Windows License (and I believe a VMware license for long term use)
2- Due to being in a virtual machine, this is going to be much slower than if it was actually running on linux (be it native or Wine)
3- Linux is running the virtual machine, and not ffxi specifically (as would be the case if it were native or using wine)

This might be nice for you, but it's not FFXI running on linux. This is like saying "I found a way to use Linux and still run <favorite program here>", and then revealing that you set your computer up to dual boot.

EDIT: Better analogy. This is like saying "I found a way to run <> in linux!", and then showing us how you have two computers.

[Galkarion]

Well I'm happy with it anyway and have posted how to do it for those who want to as well.

[Sabaron]

Agree with Mhurron. If you're running a licensed copy of XP in a virtualized hardware environment hosted in Linux, you're not running FFXI in Linux. What you are doing is:

Running FFXI in Windows XP and
Running Windows XP in Linux (through some form of abstraction software).

I would still need to own/steal an XP license to run the software, so you haven't "defeated" Micro$oft by doing this.

Call me when you can run it without any software licensed through Microsoft and I won't /yawn.

[Galkarion]

Originally Posted by Sabaron

Agree with Mhurron. If you're running a licensed copy of XP in a virtualized hardware environment hosted in Linux, you're not running FFXI in Linux. What you are doing is:

Running FFXI in Windows XP and
Running Windows XP in Linux (through some form of abstraction software).

I would still need to own/steal an XP license to run the software, so you haven't "defeated" Micro by doing this.

Call me when you can run it without any software licensed through Microsoft and I won't /yawn.

You're right. I would much rather get it working with WINE, Cedega, or CrossOver Games, guess I was just overly excited that it worked. I guess I'll focus on getting it to run with the native solutions. Oh well.

[Feba]

Originally Posted by Sabaron

I would still need to own/steal an XP license to run the software, so you haven't "defeated" Micro by doing this.

It's not even a matter of not supporting MS, really, it's a matter of being able to run FFXI in a decent OS; which this does not. Last time I tried running a virtual PC, on my setup, it took minutes to start up. Compare that to running as a native or wine application, which has no OS boot time, and only needs to start the program itself.

Anyway, wine got to 1.0 release candidates lately, and they're working on bugs, so if you really want to help get ffxi running on linux go over to winehq.org and start reading.

[Kitalrez]

Wine will work with OS-X Leopard, right? Because I really don't want to run bootcamp if I don't have to, and that's my next OS upgrade.

[Feba]

There are apparently problems with OS X's X11, but there is Darwine, which is a project that ports Wine to OS X, although it's not nearly as active. I've heard some of compiling Wine on OS X, but you'd have to look into that yourself, and it's probably not too smooth a process.

FFXI will not run in Wine yet, anyway, so you're going to have to keep running Windows.

[Galkarion]

Here's a YouTube video I made of the VMWare playability. Damn UI is so laggy.

YouTube - FFXI in Ubuntu 8.04 (VMWare Workstation 6.5)

YouTube - FFXI in Ubuntu 8.04 (VMWare Workstation 6.5)

No luck with WINE or CrossOver Games yet =\

[TheGrandMom]

Looks like how my computer is currently running FFXI, in fact, add in some graphical glitches and thats my PC. I have grid lines underneath my character or anyone near me and jagged background blotches, etc. Dynamis/HNM'ing/etc is absolutely insane. I threw up after Dynamis once because it was so bad. LOL But with 3 computers down at the same time, I have to wait my turn before I can buy parts for mine.