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Old 04-22-2008, 08:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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gardening question! concerning pots
Ok.. two questions really, first, why can't i find a quick link on the forum page to gardening?? It's important too right? Shouldn't there be some sort of separate page like cooking and jobs have?
It's either that or i'm blind >.>

Anyway, to the real question - my moogle said when i first started gardening, at least i think he said, that i couldn't have more than 10 pots in my house or else i would suffer from bad harvesting results. IS THIS TRUE??
I really want at least 14 for what i'm doing. Has anyone had any experience with bad harvesting results with more than 10 pots in their mog house? Or am i crazy?? (and blind >.>)
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: gardening question! concerning pots
For gardening information I'd recommend using wiki.ffxiclopedia.org should have good information. I do not believe there is a dedicated Gardening forum here, but you can try a search and see if you can find any helpful links.

As for the pots, you can only grow ten plants in your MH at a time. I've never attempted to try to plant more than that, I'm not even sure its possible. If you want to grow more than ten at a time you'll have to make a mule and use the second mog house to get the last 4.



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Old 04-22-2008, 09:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: gardening question! concerning pots
I only did gardening briefly but I do recall there being a limit on how many pots you can have. As far as bad harvesting results, I believe it is all luck and knowing when/what to do and use.
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Re: gardening question! concerning pots
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Ok.. two questions really, first, why can't i find a quick link on the forum page to gardening?? It's important too right? Shouldn't there be some sort of separate page like cooking and jobs have?
It's either that or i'm blind >.>
We just discuss gardening in the same section as HELM, pretty much.

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Anyway, to the real question - my moogle said when i first started gardening, at least i think he said, that i couldn't have more than 10 pots in my house or else i would suffer from bad harvesting results. IS THIS TRUE??
I really want at least 14 for what i'm doing. Has anyone had any experience with bad harvesting results with more than 10 pots in their mog house? Or am i crazy?? (and blind >.>)
That's just the flavorful, staying-in-character explanation of the 10 pot limit. I suppose your moogle could have said, "You can't have more than 10 pots due to game design constraints." But that doesn't sound nearly as colorful.



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hat's just the flavorful, staying-in-character explanation of the 10 pot limit. I suppose your moogle could have said, "You can't have more than 10 pots due to game design constraints." But that doesn't sound nearly as colorful.
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"I will downsize your face with a shovel if you try to put an eleventh pot in here!"



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Maybe the Moogle doesn't want to be an accessory to your drug growing/harvesting/selling operation.



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Hey, those rocks of Ice Ore are for medicinal purposes.



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Re: gardening question! concerning pots
some plants take 30 days to harvest..
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: gardening question! concerning pots
If I had one word of advice to a new Gardener it would be this:

DON'T

Truly random results - TRULY

There are any number of guides out there that will tell you such and such pot, with so and so seed and such and such crystal yeilds X or Y or Z

What they neglect to mention is that it could yeild any of the items listed and - after an exhaustive analysis I can tell you that NOTHING has any bearing on what you get, Not day of the week, not lunar cycle not nothing not never.

Your results will be as random on the first plant as they will be on the last. Yes you may get Black Rocks - and you may get forty boxes of Tarutaru Rice - You COULD get a deathshroom or 5 EARTH crystals or some other completely useless item. In an attempt to destroy RMT, SE has taken any profit potential pretty much out of Gardening (hell, HELM in toto!) and thrown it to the winds.

Gardening is a good way to spend more gil and time acquiring things you could just buy easily enough at a guild or AH for less hassle. Save your sanity, your hair (from pulling it out) and everything else...

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Re: gardening question! concerning pots
I did my analyze, out of all seeds only 2 items might be worth gardening..
the rest are just junk or good item with 10 crap might grow instead..

altho, I'm going to give it a try after narrowing the best result possible from seeds given 2 results only (50% chance) that works in my server..if things worked well, I'll invest in wooden pots and further..

but 30 days to harvest (tree)? for what 100k ?aha...ahaha...AHAHAHAHHHAHAH



btw ffxiclopedia have some wrong recipes compare to somepage and pikko pot (the poor soul ), dunno I didnt test anything so I might be wrong..just saying.
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It's amazing how my experience and records prove you wrong. I used to do gardening for Fire crystals (and may get back into that soon), and kept detailed information about when and even where things were grown. I found that certain pots did better for certain results, certain days gave better or worse results, and even which city it was in affected it (Sandy was better for crystals, Windy was better for leaves, Bastok was average for both). It's not too much data, maybe a couple hundred growths, but there is most defiantly factors which effect the results.
Now, granted you aren't guaranteed results on a per-growth basis, but it's much like synthing: sometimes you can HQ, sometimes you can skill up, sometimes you can succeed, sometimes you fail. There are factors which influence all those things.



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Originally Posted by The Mauva Syndicate View Post
Gardening is a good way to spend more gil and time acquiring things you could just buy easily enough at a guild or AH for less hassle. Save your sanity, your hair (from pulling it out) and everything else...
As someone who used to grow fire crystals for Gil, I'll have to say you're a bit off on this. It's random, but one can improve the odds of getting the desirable results.

Nice thing about Gardening is that it's not terribly time consuming. Haven't done it in a while, but I think one still can make Gil at it, but must research and experiment a bit. Can use cheap seeds or those which can farm from Saplings.



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Your results will be as random on the first plant as they will be on the last. Yes you may get Black Rocks - and you may get forty boxes of Tarutaru Rice - You COULD get a deathshroom or 5 EARTH crystals or some other completely useless item. In an attempt to destroy RMT, SE has taken any profit potential pretty much out of Gardening (hell, HELM in toto!) and thrown it to the winds.
I can't help but disagree with this.

Sure I don't post much but I think there are a lot of posts in several threads that have been down this road before. I am happily making 80-100k per 5-6 days @ 2-3 minutes per day, and that's just selling to NPCs and not taking into account any stacks of crystals I get as an aside from my target crop (which are an inveitable yield it would appear). There's a few extra k either made from AHing them or saved from using them in crafting.

I must confess that when I started out I was sure to plant on a certain day and harvest on a certain day and the timing can be a pain in the ass - not least if you're in a cracking EXP party or something that you don't want to mule for. Now I do both whenever the relevant time comes around and I haven't noticed a sizeable drop in profits, although I'm sure that there is some loss involved.

You might be saying that 80-100k per 5-6 days isn't much. Agreed, however for less than 30 minutes work total per week and an investment of 15k~ per week over 3 mules it's easy gil - and all in the comfort of your own mog house!

As for pots - I use Earthen Pots from the Catalyst Shop in Windurst - cheap and effective, but then again I'm not aiming for 30 day/Ore/super-special yields, rather easy, effortless gil.

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