03-31-2008, 02:53 PM | #1 (permalink) | | The S.E.E.S. Brigade Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,430 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,594 Thanked 1,393x in 973 Posts Gil: 13,817 Bank: 209,740 Total Gil: 223,557 Donate | Do you consider multiboxing cheating? I was looking up something unrelated and came across a discussion on this on a WoW forum. Basically, is someone (be it using a windower, multiple computers, a mix of consoles, or whatever else) playing multiple accounts at once cheating?
Keep in mind this is not talking about using a bot to control one of the characters, or any other things that could be considered cheating. Purely the act of using two accounts/characters at once in your gameplay. | Quote: | | When I first did the balance tests, the machine actually mocked me. "I see balance isn't your thing. Do you find you trip when you walk?" This is offered as a smile; but it's the smile of a taut twenty-something who has no idea that one day, age will be visiting him or her, too. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 02:59 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Hates you all. Except for you. Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,928 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 442 Thanked 1,553x in 984 Posts Gil: 1,485 Bank: 17,091 Total Gil: 18,576 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? No. Some people are just crybabies. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 03:02 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Personafied FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 4,199 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 141 Thanked 1,101x in 612 Posts Gil: 10,799 Bank: 5 Total Gil: 10,804 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? Its not cheating, but when you're using it to PL your own characters, you cheat yourself of a true solo experience. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 03:03 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Sexy Taru RDM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 494 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 23 Thanked 34x in 29 Posts Gil: 23,682 Bank: 234 Total Gil: 23,916 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? Absolutley not. I think it is a perfectley legit way to play. Ive acctually been accused of cheating when I used to multi box, because some people felt it was unfair I always brought my 75 RDM or my bros 75 WHM (old account bro now has) around with me to solo with, help "my" party with links raises, no down time. I can see why though in certain areas with limited mobs a group that has someone dual boxing can really negate downtime causing a lack of mobs for other groups in the area.
In other terms such as fishing or harvesting etc, again I dont think its a big deal, people have paid for 2 accounts and reserve the right to do what they want with it. It would make no difference if they were playing both or if they had a family member/friend play the other so ya
I dont think it is cheating.  Melee RDM since /04
75 RDM, /DNC, /NIN, /BLU, /BLM, /WHM, /WAR, /PLD
PSN ID: Kurtmooreca | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 03:04 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Hates you all. Except for you. Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,928 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 442 Thanked 1,553x in 984 Posts Gil: 1,485 Bank: 17,091 Total Gil: 18,576 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? Of course, some people may not value a true solo experience, so they wouldn't be cheating themselves out of anything. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 03:07 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Sexy Taru RDM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 494 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 23 Thanked 34x in 29 Posts Gil: 23,682 Bank: 234 Total Gil: 23,916 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? When I solod I only dual boxed for raise, cuz you do die from time to time and having to HP an run back out or spend oodles of money on RR items, it makes it kinda irritating.  Melee RDM since /04
75 RDM, /DNC, /NIN, /BLU, /BLM, /WHM, /WAR, /PLD
PSN ID: Kurtmooreca | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 03:09 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Hates you all. Except for you. Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,928 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 442 Thanked 1,553x in 984 Posts Gil: 1,485 Bank: 17,091 Total Gil: 18,576 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? If I had a 360 I would totally level an awesome galka with Murphie as PL. I've had plenty of solo/group experiences, and don't feel that I'd really be missing out on anything. Plus, I'd be able to work the quicksand caves switches myself! (Small victories, I take them where I can.) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 03:14 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Sexy Taru RDM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 494 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 23 Thanked 34x in 29 Posts Gil: 23,682 Bank: 234 Total Gil: 23,916 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? lol murph, i tried running those switchers on my taru solo long time ago, no luck not fat enough need a bigger beer belly.  Melee RDM since /04
75 RDM, /DNC, /NIN, /BLU, /BLM, /WHM, /WAR, /PLD
PSN ID: Kurtmooreca | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 03:18 PM | #9 (permalink) | | The S.E.E.S. Brigade Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,430 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,594 Thanked 1,393x in 973 Posts Gil: 13,817 Bank: 209,740 Total Gil: 223,557 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? Originally Posted by Murphie | | If I had a 360 | Why a 360? Computers that can run FFXI are insanely cheap nowadays.
I mean, I'm still bitter from having to use a 360 controller at fan fest. Do not like controllers with this game. But I mean, I can't imagine spending more than a few hundred dollars for any computer that could run FFXI. | Quote: | | When I first did the balance tests, the machine actually mocked me. "I see balance isn't your thing. Do you find you trip when you walk?" This is offered as a smile; but it's the smile of a taut twenty-something who has no idea that one day, age will be visiting him or her, too. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 03:34 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Al'Taieu Posts: 2,293 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 419 Thanked 375x in 256 Posts Gil: 7,491 Bank: 5,842 Total Gil: 13,332 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? I don't think it's cheating at all. I was enjoying the dual box experience with my second account, made the kills much quicker. But it's not really something I'd consider practical for an actual xp party unless you get really good at it. It's easy for me to make an /assist Aksannyi macro but with parties the dynamic is totally different, you might have to pull or tank.
I know people who dual box for farming. They use their thf main to do the killing and sit their other character at the zoneline naked to take all the drops, inventory fills and they go into town and NPC everything, rinse, repeat.
If you get good at it it's great in case you don't have a lot of friends to kill stuff with, sometimes having your dual-boxed character around it can be a huge help with mobs you couldn't otherwise solo.
I'm not a fan of the dual boxed PL, especially when the person doing the PLing isn't really doing anything, though I can see people's reluctance to level without PLs nowadays and it's become much easier for someone to just dual box it than to try to find a willing friend.
Like anything in FFXI, it has its good points and its bad points, but no, I don't consider it cheating. Unless they're RMT dual boxing.  Aksannyi <3 Cerealkiller, THF who stole my heart. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 04:03 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,834 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 22x in 19 Posts Gil: 14,257 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 14,257 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? I don't really care if people D.B. I mean its been going on for as long I as I can remember. The thing that drives me nuts is to hear a D.B cry how hard they have it or how awesome they are. 
Nin75, Bst75. Drk61, War61, Rdm40, All other jobs are 37. All 3 starting city missions completed. All Zilart missions completed. All CoP missions completed. TouA completed. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 04:28 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Hates you all. Except for you. Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,928 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 442 Thanked 1,553x in 984 Posts Gil: 1,485 Bank: 17,091 Total Gil: 18,576 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? Originally Posted by Feba | Why a 360? Computers that can run FFXI are insanely cheap nowadays.
I mean, I'm still bitter from having to use a 360 controller at fan fest. Do not like controllers with this game. But I mean, I can't imagine spending more than a few hundred dollars for any computer that could run FFXI. | Because I don't need another computer, especially not one specifically for playing FFXI. And a 360 would give me access to a lot of other games as well. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 04:43 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Personafied FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 4,199 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 141 Thanked 1,101x in 612 Posts Gil: 10,799 Bank: 5 Total Gil: 10,804 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? Originally Posted by Murphie | | Of course, some people may not value a true solo experience, so they wouldn't be cheating themselves out of anything. | Yeah but I see "Beastmasters" do it all the time, I'd say about 7 out 10 so-called BSTs do it today. You don't learn any kind of hate control with pets when you dual-box and thats essential to the job.
Additionally, for other jobs that can solo, awareness is key, when you have a PL bot following you around, that's Attention Span -20. Might not hurt you when dual boxing, but eventually when you try for real, the training wheels are gone. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 04:48 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Hates you all. Except for you. Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,928 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 442 Thanked 1,553x in 984 Posts Gil: 1,485 Bank: 17,091 Total Gil: 18,576 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? If it's a person's first time at the rodeo, sure. But for most players who 2 box, they have been around the block a few times.
Woo, mixed metaphors. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Murphie For This Useful Post: | | | 03-31-2008, 06:42 PM | #15 (permalink) | | The S.E.E.S. Brigade Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,430 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,594 Thanked 1,393x in 973 Posts Gil: 13,817 Bank: 209,740 Total Gil: 223,557 Donate | Re: Do you consider multiboxing cheating? Originally Posted by Murphie | | a 360 would give me access to a lot of other games as well. | Well, I suppose that's a reasonable enough explanation. | Quote: | | When I first did the balance tests, the machine actually mocked me. "I see balance isn't your thing. Do you find you trip when you walk?" This is offered as a smile; but it's the smile of a taut twenty-something who has no idea that one day, age will be visiting him or her, too. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:29 PM. | | |