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Armando · 03-07-2008, 08:34 AM

StarvingArtist...what the fuck is that? Like, is that fan-made or...? (Hint, I've never played MGS2 or 3 and I've only seen other people play parts of MGS1.)

S h i r o m a d o s h i · 03-07-2008, 08:41 AM

I still don't understand how adding them would mess up a game. Though I am a new player, so I suppose I can't argue.
Thats a special mini game in MGS3, Snake VS Monkey.
" I rather be collecting pants"

LilithAngel · 03-07-2008, 08:41 AM

Nope, that's official footage. Snake Eater has an extra mission where you're after the Monkeys from the Ape Escape series. The codec conversation is rather hilarious (my fave line: "Why don't you make Sam or Gabe do the job?").

Comedy gold there!

Armando · 03-07-2008, 08:43 AM

Wow, that's...wow. I thought it looked real but I can't get over it.

Feba · 03-07-2008, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by S h i r o m a d o s h i

I still don't understand how adding them would mess up a game. Though I am a new player, so I suppose I can't argue.

I don't want to spoil the story, but yes.

S h i r o m a d o s h i · 03-07-2008, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by LilithAngel

Nope, that's official footage. Snake Eater has an extra mission where you're after the Monkeys from the Ape Escape series. The codec conversation is rather hilarious (my fave line: "Why don't you make Sam or Gabe do the job?").

Comedy gold there!

...Yeah..thats Snake VS Monkey...
Did you see the other comedy videos packed into the disk as well?
like the time travel one? It was very funny.

LilithAngel · 03-07-2008, 08:55 AM

No, I didn't. I was over at a friend's place when I saw that. Laughed my ass off when I did, too. I should go back and get it so I can see them.

S h i r o m a d o s h i · 03-07-2008, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by LilithAngel

No, I didn't. I was over at a friend's place when I saw that. Laughed my ass off when I did, too. I should go back and get it so I can see them.

Oh Theres like several videos. Look at them. you can probably find them on Youtube. there is also a trailer on there for MGS4 :D

MrMageo · 03-07-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Feba

Try playing FFXI. It's pretty self-explanatory. FFXI cannot just casually toss in an entirely new race.

Acctually that is not entirely true, and pretty easily done in terms of story line. Its almost as easy as throwing in a new job and backing the story for it as they did with ToA,Wotg jobs mosre recently.

For example, who's to say anther race didnt evolve in a far off corner of vana'diel. Like possibly the far eastern country that Aht Urghan is currently at war with. They dont believe in Altana, and there for dont believe in the 5 crystals representing each race. So backing a story that way for a new race would be fairly simple. Making a new story line for a city that is not involved in and around the shadow lord is pretty simple too. Following mission 6 they can simply say you have been taken on as a mercenary for investigation into Dynamis world to tie it in that way, a contact in the western island of Kazham(to tie it to the ZM's.

Or with the new areas in the past you can simply say it was a small civilization (the city in the opening video for FFXI) that was destroyed by the beastmen during the great crystal war. There many possible ways to tie in a new race if they so desired.

You wash up on the shore of some unknown land, you seek answers in the great, (insert town here), Not knowing where you are or where you came from, you begin the quest to find your past....

Murphie · 03-07-2008, 10:32 AM

Except that in Vanadiel it's not just a matter of Altana being some goddess that the people made up to explain their own history. It's a fantasy world, and so the gods and goddesses are actual entities, not just legends.

Also, even if you ignore the lore, the game mechanics aspect would make a new race a pretty pointless addition.

Ellipses · 03-07-2008, 10:37 AM

Cait Sith could, like, accidentally send someone back in time who punches Altana in the nose until she cries a sixth tear.

MrMageo · 03-07-2008, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Murphie

Also, even if you ignore the lore, the game mechanics aspect would make a new race a pretty pointless addition.

That i dont disagree with, but saying its not possible is an outright lie.

Murphie · 03-07-2008, 10:54 AM

Well, anything is possible in a fantasy world. But probable? Not when previously existing lore is taken into account.

Neomage · 03-07-2008, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Armando

They're called Vieras by the way, not Veiras. I before E, except after C!

Unless it makes an "eh" sound as in Neighbor or Weigh. Unless it's Weird.

Feba · 03-07-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by MrMageo

but saying its not possible is an outright lie.

They could also change the Great Tree in Windurst into a giant star shaped building. But it wouldn't make any goddamn sense, and it would ruin so many different parts of the storyline that they might as well chuck it out the window.

Seriously, if you don't understand WHY this isn't possible, go do some reading on the history of Vana'diel. It's hard to explain new cities and areas. It would be IMPOSSIBLE to explain a new race. That 'city in the opening movie' has a very rich background story of it's own. It's been around for several years. The fact that you can't even identify it or the people in it should be plenty enough for you to consider your knowledge of the history of Vana'diel too poor to think about this.