09-26-2007, 09:48 AM | #16 (permalink) | | RADIO GOO GOO Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,551 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,632 Thanked 1,421x in 998 Posts Gil: 21,060 Bank: 250,659 Total Gil: 271,720 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* it's got nothing to do with defending FFXI. There are plenty of things about FFXI and SE I find retarded. But this is the way billing is handled, and it's the OP's own fault for not taking more care with their money. | Originally Posted by someone who just spent ten minutes with feba | | wtf? I am horribly disoriented and scared. I can't tell what's real anymore | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-26-2007, 09:51 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,105 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 17 Thanked 65x in 50 Posts Gil: 841,234 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 841,234 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* oh good god -.- *sigh*
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Conclusion, it is said in many places that SE does this, its not unethical or ethical, but some online companies do it, and some don't.  Gaming at its best, the good old 8-bit days | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Kailea for above post: | | | 09-26-2007, 10:17 AM | #18 (permalink) | | Mew? :3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 34 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 598 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 598 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* On a positive note, I am eligible for this anniversary ring I am hearing about =D | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-26-2007, 10:22 AM | #19 (permalink) | | RADIO GOO GOO Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,551 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,632 Thanked 1,421x in 998 Posts Gil: 21,060 Bank: 250,659 Total Gil: 271,720 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* congrats. be sure you take advantage of it as much as you can. | Originally Posted by someone who just spent ten minutes with feba | | wtf? I am horribly disoriented and scared. I can't tell what's real anymore | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-26-2007, 10:34 AM | #20 (permalink) | | <3 Duo/Trio Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 155 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 9 Thanked 21x in 17 Posts Gil: 4,420 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,420 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* SE does a much better job with their billing for participants of the "Welcome Back to Vana'diel" campaigns.
The following is on the first page after you select Proceed to Type A: | Quote: | * The monthly fee is $12.95(USD) for the first character, and $1.00(USD) for each additional.
* Billing for Content IDs that incur fees will begin from the month following purchase. However, Content IDs with free trial periods will not incur fees for 30 days following the date of purchase. If Content IDs are kept after the free trial period, fees for the first month (i.e. from the first day that fees are incurred to the last day of that month) will be calculated on a day basis, and will be added to the following month's bill.
* After the first month of reactivation, the first character will incur a monthly charge of $12.95(USD), and all additional characters will incur a monthly charge of $1.00(USD) each. | The following is on the first page after you select Proceed to Type B: | Quote: | | Fees will be incurred once the character reactivation process has been completed. The fee is $12.95 (USD) for the first character, and $1.00 (USD) for each additional character beyond the first. Payments will be due the month following reactivation. | There really isn't something in POL that says this as you try to reactivate? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-12-2007, 05:50 PM | #21 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 57 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 293 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 293 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* So let me get this straight, if i deactivate my account for a couple of months and come back, they charge me for the time off i took? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-12-2007, 05:53 PM | #22 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,533 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 21 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 33,096 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 33,096 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* Originally Posted by favian | | So let me get this straight, if i deactivate my account for a couple of months and come back, they charge me for the time off i took? | no. but if you come back in the middle or end of a month, they will still charge you for the full month so ALWAYS REACTIVATE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-12-2007, 06:03 PM | #23 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 4,258 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 141 Thanked 1,119x in 624 Posts Gil: 11,037 Bank: 6 Total Gil: 11,042 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* I really don't care how much someone complains, you're not getting your $12.95 a month unless you're playing 24/7, so there is no point in bitching about paying the perceived "month" value of that $12.95. You're not playing all month, if you really expect $12.95 to equal a month of play, quit your job and life and get to it
If MMO companies did it on a pay-per-play basis, the system would fail and no MMORPG could thrive since people would abuse it.
You get charged a block rate per month and if you miss the first of the month, you'll get dinged twice at the start of the next one. At least you know its coming.
People also need to learn what "ethical" means. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Omgwtfbbqkitten for above post: | | | 10-12-2007, 10:27 PM | #24 (permalink) | | Play toy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington, England Posts: 957 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 84 Thanked 104x in 46 Posts Gil: 9,779 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,779 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten | | I really don't care how much someone complains, you're not getting your $12.95 a month unless you're playing 24/7, so there is no point in bitching about paying the perceived "month" value of that $12.95. | So, you think it's perfectly acceptable for a new player to come along, subscribe on the 28th of September, only to be charged a full month for two days then be charged for October as well? We're not talking RtV participants here, just some new customer who picked up the game and read the manual from cover to cover. Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten | | People also need to learn what "ethical" means. | You could argue what is construed as ethical in this instance till you're blue in the face but ultimately you just need to take a look at any other leading MMoG company's billing policy to see S-E's is either archaic, lazy, or downright misleading and money-grabbing. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Grizzlebeard for above post: | | | 10-13-2007, 02:54 AM | #25 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,533 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 21 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 33,096 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 33,096 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard | | So, you think it's perfectly acceptable for a new player to come along, subscribe on the 28th of September, only to be charged a full month for two days then be charged for October as well? We're not talking RtV participants here, just some new customer who picked up the game and read the manual from cover to cover. | actually, they do prorate new player subscriptions. notice i said reactivate not subscribe  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 07:38 PM | #26 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,607 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,607 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* Originally Posted by Illuen | Any time I am spending money, I make damn sure to know how much I am spending, and make sure to read the fine print. Caveat emptor. | Ditto and SE very open about their billing I talked to one of their reps and they told me if I was going to reactivate it be best to wait till beginning of month because way the billing works they told me when I could reactivate even what time during that day I should wait till | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-31-2008, 08:55 PM | #27 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 56 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 6 Thanked 4x in 4 Posts Gil: 3,968 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,968 Donate | Re: SquareEnix doesn't prorate subscriptions? *sigh* Originally Posted by LyonheartLakshmi | | Newton's 1st Law of Message Boards: For every rant, there will be an equal and opposite reactionary rant. | But nothing is as good as a game of Forums and Flamewars.
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