About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users

Zamphire · 08-31-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ziero

It's harder to prove someone is selling gil then it is to prove someone Jumping from point A to point B. Other then saying 'they're always there!' how can you prove who is a gil seller?

What about the ones that are quite obviously useing 3rd party software to camp NMs?

KoukiRyu · 08-31-2006, 08:19 AM

This reminds me of about 3~4 weeks back, a friend and myself randomly decided to camp O.kotes, maybe make some cash and split it, we were in need at the time. ; ; But anyway, we get there, and of course, there are 6 bots, one in each corner of the spawn room, 1 in the middle little island, and one on the small bridge spot...now after each PH is killed, the one on the bridge and the one near the entrance would switch positions, like clockwork...so I'm thinking "Hey, I'll just report them and see if I am lucky and anything gets done.." So I report and I get a /tell soon afterwards, I explain to the GM give all the names, and then go on with what I was doing. Mee Degi spawns, RMT grabs him instantly like usual and my friend and I move to the Fumas room to try for those while the respawn happens. About 3 minutes after we move, all the RMT'ers move in and take their same positions ._. About 10 minutes into camping Fumas, my friend disappears right next to me...I look down at the party window and it says "Morion" ; ;! The GM...took my party member, and banned her for 3 days for "speed hacking" she was mnk/war...and the only thing she had done was used a Hermes Quencher...and she got banned for it ._. She also called PoL, they said they could do nothing, nothing happend to the GM for wrongly banning her, and she got no compensation from them in any way...not that SE has ever been reported to compensate anyone...ever... :x

I kinda just wanted to share this, but ask along with it, do you guys think GM's are often in on it with RMT'ers? Because this incident strongly supports that question in my opinion...just curious of some of your thoughs.

Ziero · 08-31-2006, 08:28 AM

That's a whole 'nother problem. Many GMs in this game are highly inept in the field of in game knowledge. If the people enforcing the rules knew more about the in game community and workings within the game things might actually be better. But as it stands the in game GMs are a crap shoot in terms of effectivness.

Aeni · 08-31-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeolus

Its only the RMT that monopolise tho while using the hacks so they cause a much more severe inpact, Id rather they were banded than a "legit" player using cheats. And alot of them do it to beat the RMT neway, still not right but at least they sell stuff at proper prices. On hades at least

Were you in a cave when Excellence was totally monopolizing ground NMs? Maybe you were. Then afterwards, Stanislav admitted to botting. C'mon, get off your high horse. "Legitimate" players are capable of cheating just as much and even moreso than RMT, especially on RARE/EX items.

Aeolus · 09-01-2006, 07:52 AM

Yea and in my later post I said I want them both banned but the RMT first as they are effecting the market for everyone from lv1-75 rather than the HNMLS that are just effecting the end game content atm. Fix whats effecting the most people first is all Im saying.

Neomage · 09-02-2006, 05:35 AM

My god... some of the temp-bans(at first offence mind you) are starting to turn perma... I will be so pissed if I get permad for looking at the Asteral Candesence, walking on the airship rails, and climbing to the top of a stone tree is saruta for screenshots...

Aeolus · 09-02-2006, 05:47 AM

Why would you even get temp banned for walking on airship rails, thats a glitch?

Neomage · 09-02-2006, 06:57 AM

Yeah, it is a glitch, but I always fell off so I used PoS to get me up. Ture, it was against the ToS, and if they suspend me fine... but If I get permad...

Murphie · 09-02-2006, 07:03 AM

Well, it's not like you would have been stuck on the other side of the airship forever. That was a pretty silly risk to take for airship railing walking.

Neomage · 09-02-2006, 07:03 AM

HAHAHA! OMFG... I just talked to a support tech about why my account is still offline(ban 4 in morning at aug 30th, 31st, 1st, 2ed, 3 days right?) and he told me SE has the most random bannings he has ever seen. Apparantly they took everyone with a flagged account, weather for hacking, MPK, or going AFK in a mog house

(Appaerntly GMs can't send you to mordion if your in your MH...), and selected 1400 random accounts. BOOM! No more play for you guys...

Murphie · 09-02-2006, 07:06 AM

Have you been banned?

kenshi · 09-02-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Onionsoilder

HAHAHA! OMFG... I just talked to a support tech about why my account is still offline(ban 4 in morning at aug 30th, 31st, 1st, 2ed, 3 days right?) and he told me SE has the most random bannings he has ever seen. Apparantly they took everyone with a flagged account, weather for hacking, MPK, or going AFK in a mog house

(Appaerntly GMs can't send you to mordion if your in your MH...), and selected 1400 random accounts. BOOM! No more play for you guys...

How did you get a hold of tech support on a saturday. they only open monday through friday according to their website.

Were you able to get unsuspended?

kenshi · 09-02-2006, 09:00 AM

I was temporarily suspended according to my pol message i get when trying to log in. Not sure if banned >< O.o Y_Y

Neomage · 09-02-2006, 09:08 AM

I sent an E-mail to tech support and got it in my mailbox this morning, so I assume it was actually sent sooner and I just picked it up now(I rarely check E-mail) As for banned v.s. suspended, if your suspended you will get a LM-17 error message, banned is LM-11.

kenshi · 09-02-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Onionsoilder

I sent an E-mail to tech support and got it in my mailbox this morning, so I assume it was actually sent sooner and I just picked it up now(I rarely check E-mail) As for banned v.s. suspended, if your suspended you will get a LM-17 error message, banned is LM-11.

Yeah i am still getting the LM-17 message and which email did they send you your pol account or seperate? i nvr use pol so if they only send to that i will be super pissed cause i wont be able to talk to anyone or get any answers till teusday since SE closed monday for Labor Day

08-31-2006, 08:19 AM	#32
KoukiRyu go cry emo kid Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 698 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 109 Thanked 40x in 33 Posts My Mood:	Re: About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users This reminds me of about 3~4 weeks back, a friend and myself randomly decided to camp O.kotes, maybe make some cash and split it, we were in need at the time. ; ; But anyway, we get there, and of course, there are 6 bots, one in each corner of the spawn room, 1 in the middle little island, and one on the small bridge spot...now after each PH is killed, the one on the bridge and the one near the entrance would switch positions, like clockwork...so I'm thinking "Hey, I'll just report them and see if I am lucky and anything gets done.." So I report and I get a /tell soon afterwards, I explain to the GM give all the names, and then go on with what I was doing. Mee Degi spawns, RMT grabs him instantly like usual and my friend and I move to the Fumas room to try for those while the respawn happens. About 3 minutes after we move, all the RMT'ers move in and take their same positions ._. About 10 minutes into camping Fumas, my friend disappears right next to me...I look down at the party window and it says "Morion" ; ;! The GM...took my party member, and banned her for 3 days for "speed hacking" she was mnk/war...and the only thing she had done was used a Hermes Quencher...and she got banned for it ._. She also called PoL, they said they could do nothing, nothing happend to the GM for wrongly banning her, and she got no compensation from them in any way...not that SE has ever been reported to compensate anyone...ever... :x I kinda just wanted to share this, but ask along with it, do you guys think GM's are often in on it with RMT'ers? Because this incident strongly supports that question in my opinion...just curious of some of your thoughs. __________________ Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D

08-31-2006, 08:28 AM	#33
Ziero Interior Decorator Bronze Star Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,761 Style: Light V4/5 Beta Thanks: 152 Thanked 403x in 267 Posts	Re: About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users That's a whole 'nother problem. Many GMs in this game are highly inept in the field of in game knowledge. If the people enforcing the rules knew more about the in game community and workings within the game things might actually be better. But as it stands the in game GMs are a crap shoot in terms of effectivness.

09-01-2006, 07:52 AM	#35
Aeolus Ares's Cuirass Allied Ribbon of Bravery Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,983 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts	Re: About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users Yea and in my later post I said I want them both banned but the RMT first as they are effecting the market for everyone from lv1-75 rather than the HNMLS that are just effecting the end game content atm. Fix whats effecting the most people first is all Im saying. __________________ 75 Mnk Sam \| 70 Drk \| 40 Blm \| 37 Nin Rng Thf War Woodworking 91.9+2 ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27

09-02-2006, 05:47 AM	#37
Aeolus Ares's Cuirass Allied Ribbon of Bravery Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,983 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts	Re: About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users Why would you even get temp banned for walking on airship rails, thats a glitch? __________________ 75 Mnk Sam \| 70 Drk \| 40 Blm \| 37 Nin Rng Thf War Woodworking 91.9+2 ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27

09-02-2006, 07:03 AM	#39
Murphie Murphie Wings of Honor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Murphie Posts: 8,193 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 531 Thanked 1,706x in 1,053 Posts	Re: About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users Well, it's not like you would have been stuck on the other side of the airship forever. That was a pretty silly risk to take for airship railing walking. __________________ Murphie.

09-02-2006, 07:06 AM	#41
Murphie Murphie Wings of Honor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Murphie Posts: 8,193 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 531 Thanked 1,706x in 1,053 Posts	Re: About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users Have you been banned? __________________ Murphie.

09-02-2006, 09:00 AM	#43
kenshi Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 192 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users I was temporarily suspended according to my pol message i get when trying to log in. Not sure if banned >< O.o Y_Y __________________

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