High Prices for no reason!

[Ziero]

This is one of the easiest quests in game

20k is not a lot of many at ANY level, especially someone who's played before

Invites were 10k about 2 years ago on my server and still are

And all players will try to raise the price on something they're selling, but if buyers don't pay it prices drop. Supply and demand, it's a simple concept that rules FFXI's economy. Only thing gil selling really does is put cash in the hands of people that don't know how to use it, and that's why prices go up.

[Taskmage]

Perhaps Tenshodo invite wasn't the best example. -_- Even so, 20k isn't that much even for a starting character. I dunno what prices are like on Phoenix, but a stack of Wild Onions or Beehive Chips will get you that and those're both farmable at level 7.

[Zamphire]

Thankyou.
Good to see that when people know that RMT is actually there own fault they ignore anyone who says so.
This has nothing to do with my Job or the fact that a 64 THF should be able to afford it easily.. But what about a Brand new character struggling to buy BLM spells and WHM spells and armour.. ?
And not just Tenshodo invite /sigh

We all started somewhere. Yes, prices where cheaper back in my day, but that also ment money was harder to come by, so it balances it'self out. And if you're really a new character, almost every blm/whm spell up to 30 can be bought at a NPC.

[Jugil]

If this turns into a RMT thread just close it.

Seems to me you're doing it yourself:

Good to see that when people know that RMT is actually there own fault they ignore anyone who says so.

There is more behind inflation than RMT; it just seems that's the most convenient scapegoat.

Inflation happens, it's only natural. Sure, there have been times that it has gone out of control (padded cap fish bots a while back comes to mind), but eventually it all stabilizes, and the inflation trickles down.

[Ziero]

Thankyou.
Good to see that when people know that RMT is actually there own fault they ignore anyone who says so.
This has nothing to do with my Job or the fact that a 64 THF should be able to afford it easily.. But what about a Brand new character struggling to buy BLM spells and WHM spells and armour.. ?
And not just Tenshodo invite /sigh

Smart players get around that or use the system to their advantage. Most 'high priced' Blm/whm spells can be farmed with friends or simply quested. Most low lvl spells are sold from NPCs which can not be affected by RMT in any way.

The point you're trying to make is that RMT is caused by players, we know that. Gil *buyers* are just as bad as gil sellers, if not worse. But prices on certain things will always remain high, that's how things are supposed to be.

[Vandle]

Can't deal with high prices here in-game? Wait until you get into the real world. And I'm serious.

/huh?
How old do you think we are...?

And all players will try to raise the price on something they're selling, but if buyers don't pay it prices drop.

I put it back up for 19k just so it sells.
And the only reason i had money for it is because i sold "Drain" for 150k Which used to cost 20k! And its a quest!

So meh, Same with Aspir. But whatever nothing can be done like Ziero said people with money who dont know how to use it will allways buy things no matter the price.

Double Post Edited:
Yes i know most if not all spells are ontained cheaper at NPC's thats where i have gotten allmost all of them from, I also got a 75THF friend to kill come Wights and Bogy's for Tractor and Escape. This is'nt really a 'Me' thread just a all rounder.

[Mog]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. We get invites via the Delivery Box?

There's a quest for it? Odd. When I reached around rank 3, I got a tenshodo invite in my mail. Didn't request it or anything. Somebody must've been feeling very nice toward me.

[LadyKiKi]

/huh?
How old do you think we are...?

I don't care how old you are. You'll face it sooner or later about high prices. Don't forget that.

[Taskmage]

There's a quest for it? Odd. When I reached around rank 3, I got a tenshodo invite in my mail. Didn't request it or anything. Somebody must've been feeling very nice toward me.

hahaha XD That would be cool if they did it that way. I was just fishing in Windy one day, rank 1 newb, and somebody came up behind me, traded me the invite without a word, ran off and logged. I read the description and was like D:

[Cometgreen]

Sure, prices have risen. But the price for just about everything has risen. For the most part, prices all rise proportionally.

[Queen Uma]

There's a quest for it? Odd. When I reached around rank 3, I got a tenshodo invite in my mail. Didn't request it or anything. Somebody must've been feeling very nice toward me.

The world works in mysterious ways for the one known as Mog

[Rai]

I have played since before the PS2 release. Tensudo invites use to be 1-2k on Leviathan they were that cheap, so cheep people would give them to friends instead of wasting the time trying to sell them. Mage's Ballad use to be 2k, back when there were enough people wanting to do intermediate team work quest, now it is 200k.

[Telera]

But prices on certain things will always remain high, that's how things are supposed to be.

Not if FFXI had a economy system like SW: Galaxies. I never talked to anyone about it specifically while there and only played a few months before the 'improvement' (read: nerfing) that was the NGE, but materials were all self farmed. IIRC, you couldn't sell them on the big Galactic equivalent of an AH. Best equip (pre NGE) were crafted by high lvl crafters, which was a *job* not a side thing to do. Farming was one of the ways you had to level up to be able to find the better stuff you needed. It was one of your skill trees. (And no, the chocobo digging levelling doesn't even cut it close to being the same system on that level really.) The difference b/w HQ and NQ was never an issue and in high lvl pts on Dantooine, not once did I see anyone even mention "Hey I got this and you don't, let's boot youz, n00b lolololol.' It just wasn't as central.

Things you sold on the equivalent of the AH either had set prices or people just never ever bothered to overprice them (because every vendor for everything I ever looked at had the exact same price over the entire galaxy), the price gouging of 'necessary' items or equip (the eqivalent of Erase, Utsusemi, etc. here) didn't happen and money was easily obtainable from quests or selling things you no longer needed to NPCs to pretty much ensure that the RMTs had no real place in things. I'm not sure if the gouging never happening was the result of caps that were in place, or people were more interested in other things since money was easy to come by.

Anyone who's played it knows there was a high degree of customiziation as well. Many more weapon, armor, and everyday clothing options. I never saw any two people who really looked alike. And when you add the Image Designer class in, who could literally add scars and tattoos to your face... well, there you have it. Plus any crafted clothing, and probably other things (as I never looked too closely) could be done in a wide array of colors. Around Halloween, a major clothing crafter put out alot of orange and black ball gown type dresses. I myself bought a light blue on midnight blue type for my eventual ingame wedding. So it wasn't that people took no pride in their equipment, or the money used on it. And I see tons more 'cookie cutters' on FFXI than I ever did there. Every fifth melee looks alike the closer you get to endgame in XI. Though that's largely the fault of the PS2 (and I play on it, so no I'm not really bashing).
All around, the system was more stable. People had more time to focus on their characters, their levelling, and just generally enjoying the vast worlds rather than 'omg, I have to farm for a whole week just to be able to afford this so I can finally level again!' And that I think is the one thing I really miss about Galaxies. I could bugger off for a week and just fly around to Dathomir and Naboo and mess around and come back to Dantooine, make the money I needed in a few hours of quests, reequip and be set for a while. Then I could focus on living my character's life, which was more the focus of SW:Galaxies. You do good to find *one* role player here. Whereas on there, from the minute I put it in my profile, I had dozens of /tells about it a day asking me to join such and such guild.

And I'm sure people will retaliate w/ 'If you liked it so much, go back!'. Well, I have two responses to cut that off here. 1. They killed the game. They really did. I can't even play it and look at it the same. 2. XI has its perks too. It's fantasy as opposed to Sci-fi (and I need my dose of both ^^) and has its truly enjoyable moments. I just think there are some flaws that are just made into the system and there's nothing anyone can really do about it. S-E chose a player-driven economy, and when you do that, this is what happens. RMT play a part, but so do your everyday players trying to make money for the things they need.

[LadyKiKi]

People are just lazy. The opening post reflects that. Hence price hikes. Think about some specialist jobs in real life that people charge huge amounts of money for. The people who went out their way to learn and do it are the ones which benefit. Hence, the ones who go out of their way to obtain something in game that's highly desirable but a pain to get, can charge high prices. It's all time and money and what you value more.

Personally just thinking about it, it was a waste of time getting a 75THF farming Stun and Tractor for you. Even if he's a good friend, it just doesn't cut it. But back to the point, it depends on what you value the more.

[Zamphire]

/huh?
How old do you think we are...?



I put it back up for 19k just so it sells.
And the only reason i had money for it is because i sold "Drain" for 150k Which used to cost 20k! And its a quest!

So meh, Same with Aspir. But whatever nothing can be done like Ziero said people with money who dont know how to use it will allways buy things no matter the price.

Double Post Edited:
Yes i know most if not all spells are ontained cheaper at NPC's thats where i have gotten allmost all of them from, I also got a 75THF friend to kill come Wights and Bogy's for Tractor and Escape. This is'nt really a 'Me' thread just a all rounder.

You're complaining about not being able to afford spells and you go and sell a spell? The reason quests spells are so much is you can only get ONE per character, that's it.

And if the purpose of this thread was to stop people from complaining about high prices... you did the complete opposite...