07-24-2006, 06:41 PM | #31 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 491 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 6,979 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,979 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update | Quote: | | I don't think it's too bad for pld :/ I read that Phalanx II can be cast on a party member. So that atleast helps with tanking. | Big problem, though. RDM can only fully merit 2 of the new spells, and I don't see many fully meritting Phalanx2 (especially if it's only superficiously better than phalanx1 solo).
Especially with everybody melee burning, using 1/2 of your new stuff on something that isn't going to be used much (thanks to /nin) doesn't make much sense.
Some rdms might go with one full merit spell, and then phalanx2 at lvl 1 and maybe another at lvl 2, and still others might just have all 6 at lvl 1, but the point is that this isn't going to be a regular thing plds can depend on if they invite a rdm. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-24-2006, 08:07 PM | #32 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,186 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 1,230 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,230 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update THF won big-time, I believe. They got some really neat job trait/abilities as well as high level daggers doing more damage. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-24-2006, 08:56 PM | #33 (permalink) | | ROOOBOTS! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In my house Posts: 170 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4x in 4 Posts Gil: 7,440 Bank: 10,194 Total Gil: 17,634 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update Oooooh, I can't wait to try out the daggers now =D I wonder how much damage thieves will we be able to do now. It will be insane damage if that Assassin's Charge ability works with weapon skills | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-24-2006, 09:03 PM | #34 (permalink) | | RNG for life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 319 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 38 Thanked 19x in 13 Posts Gil: 13,765 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 13,765 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update This isn't job wise, but the people who lost are all the xbox 360 owners who aren't level 75 since they can't get ANY of the Achievements. (I'm included in these people.) Only good things Xbox owners got was they can now play in 1024x768, and Final Fantasy XI is in their currently playing list instead of PlayOnline Viewer. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-24-2006, 11:23 PM | #35 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 225 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 506 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 506 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update Wow, tier 2 enfeebles, I'm drooling.
I can't wait to try them out, so gutted that I gave away all my gear and gil when I quit 7 months ago now. I can't even attempt to merit. Valheru:
75RDM/69WAR/37BLM/37WHM/37THF/37NIN/37DRK
Rank 9, San d'Oria | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-24-2006, 11:36 PM | #36 (permalink) | | Fence Sitter Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,342 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 53 Thanked 90x in 68 Posts Gil: 3,672 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,672 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update | Originally Posted by Dymlos | | This isn't job wise, but the people who lost are all the xbox 360 owners who aren't level 75 since they can't get ANY of the Achievements. (I'm included in these people.) Only good things Xbox owners got was they can now play in 1024x768, and Final Fantasy XI is in their currently playing list instead of PlayOnline Viewer. | Problem was that there are so many people with multiple 75s that they needed to do something. X-box users haven't had the 2/3 + years in game, with capped merits and begging for more goodies. I'm personally happy (my main jobs are whm and rdm, so I made out like a bandit), though my ls are now telling me to go solo Genbu and they will stand and watch... Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you." | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 12:14 AM | #37 (permalink) | | red means NO Super Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 3,042 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 75 Thanked 205x in 120 Posts Gil: 36,291 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 36,291 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update pup gets:
2 ws
twice as much attachments, together with tier2 attachments
a new automaton animator (sorry for misleading info, fix'd)
and the AF
how did PUP lose?... <.< quick quick lets turn this into a lolpup thread and further bash the job like we did to drg, we're all very proud of that Last edited by Balfree : 07-25-2006 at 01:29 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 12:23 AM | #38 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts Gil: 2,254 Bank: 28,893 Total Gil: 31,147 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update I'm not sure if any of the jobs really "lost" anyway. They all got something new, and time will tell if the new abilities are of any worth.
Of course, there are those jobs that need a bit of a boost, but that's more because the community has been narrowing it's focus a lot lately, and a lot of jobs get left out in the cold. So, I dunno. All of the new abilities look cool to me. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 12:56 AM | #39 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 98 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 697 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 697 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update The bard ability that lets them cast a song at 1.5x casting time and get double effect is a bit misleading. It doubles the duration of the song and that is all. So it is not a mini-soul voice.
What new automation set did pup get? 
| 75 DRG | 75 MNK | 75 BRD | 37 WAR | 37 NIN | 38 WHM | 37 THF | 60 RNG |
| 65 SAM | 61 BST | 37 BLM | 46 RDM | 14 BLU | 10 PUP | 10 COR | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 12:59 AM | #40 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts Gil: 2,254 Bank: 28,893 Total Gil: 31,147 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update Longer song duration is still really nice. Any amount of time that a BRD can have added to their songs is good news for me. :D | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 01:13 AM | #41 (permalink) | | Forker of eyes Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 194 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 4,616 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,616 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update One thing that seems to have gone unnoticed is the change to Raise and Reraise. | Quote: | | The amount of experience points recovered by using the white magic spells "Raise" and "Reraise" has been increased from 25% to 50% | I think this is great and hopefully will convince some of you to accept a raise from the lowly rdm in your party rather than sitting on the floor for half and hour bitching for a Raise 2/3. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 01:18 AM | #42 (permalink) | | Fence Sitter Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,342 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 53 Thanked 90x in 68 Posts Gil: 3,672 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,672 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update Yup - Dynamis wipes just got more palattable (though people will still whine...) Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you." | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 01:22 AM | #43 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts Gil: 2,254 Bank: 28,893 Total Gil: 31,147 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update I don't know much about the WHM merit abilities. Do they help to make WHM a bit more desireable for meripo and whatnot? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 01:29 AM | #44 (permalink) | | Fence Sitter Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,342 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 53 Thanked 90x in 68 Posts Gil: 3,672 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,672 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update All I know is that level 1 pro V only adds 5 more defense, and we will be having another maint to fix it as it is broken, and wearing off too early.... Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you." | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-25-2006, 01:31 AM | #45 (permalink) | | red means NO Super Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 3,042 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 75 Thanked 205x in 120 Posts Gil: 36,291 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 36,291 Donate | Re: Big winner and big loser in the update | Originally Posted by Taolynn | | What new automation set did pup get? | sorry i meant the new animator, Turbo animator, that apparently reduces the Maton's recasts | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:16 AM. | | |