What useable items do you carry?

[Spinnthrift]

Dude - you played a Thf to 71 and didn't learn the value of always having sneak oils/powders and stuff?

Jeeeeeeeeez.

Glad you're not on my server.

[Murphie]

Like I said, why would they be dead unless theyre crap at their job? Ppl hardly ever die, and its not an attitude. If I die because of some huge link or mpk attempt that wipes the whole party I dont see how the items could have saved me. I didnt mean oils/powders sorry. Antidotes, Potions, eye drops etc, dont need them.

1.) Be more clear next time.

2.) It doesn't hurt to be prepared.

3.) Sometimes using a -na spell on you isn't as important as getting another tick or two of MP back. Although I always remove statuses as soon as they land, there are always extenuating circumstances, and getting mad because someone suggests that you cover your bases is a bit ridiculous.

[Aeolus]

I thought sneak/oils were just always carried. I dont ask mages to "Babysit" me through zones.

[Murphie]

I thought sneak/oils were just always carried. I dont ask mages to "Babysit" me through zones.

Your initial comment said nothing about them being a default inventory item. In fact, from my experience, they aren't for many players. So, how on earth was I to come to the conclusion that you meant meds other than those?

[Aeolus]

Its not much to ask tho seens as the mages usually have full MP at the end of the fight anyway for them to cure my status ailments to save me alot of money. And in a PT session you can get poisened over a 100times, I dont have the inv space to cover this and other problems that items "could" cure when the mages can do it for me. Just my opinion tho, not saying Im right.

And yes I did lv to 71thf spin and Im glad your not on my server either

[Aeni]

Dude - you played a Thf to 71 and didn't learn the value of always having sneak oils/powders and stuff?

Jeeeeeeeeez.

Glad you're not on my server.

Reading comprehension ftw. You missed at least one statement he made concerning that.

I had the annoying pleasure once of partying with a DRG that never had anything. I mean litterally ... nothing. He even wanted to buy some snoll gelatos off me because he didn't have food. Umm... wtf?

[Aeolus]

I always have food/sneak/invisi on me. Usually got invisi from nin sub but carry powders when I dont. Forgive me for forgetting some people do not carry these all the time, I didnt realise people were still that naive. This Stuff hes talking about, yea I learnt in a normal PT setup you dont need them. At least Ive never needed/had a complaint about them.

[Aeni]

I always have food/sneak/invisi on me. Usually got invisi from nin sub but carry powders when I dont. Forgive me for forgetting some people do not carry these all the time, I didnt realise people were still that naive. This Stuff hes talking about, yea I learnt in a normal PT setup you dont need them. At least Ive never needed/had a complaint about them.

I knew that, that's why I didn't "jump" to any assumptions. Besides, I think in a post long ago, there was similar discussions with regard to this. Also I get this vibe you're not like that DRG... I'm sure you know better.

[Tirrock]

So, when you die of poison, do you blame the WHM for being new and not having poisona? I suppose that's alright... Do you blame the WHM if a goblin aggroed them and they died, followed by you dying of poison? Or if they pull hate and die? Again, followed by your death from poison.

Newbies are everywhere. People that don't really want to play WHM and are only leveling it as a sub are rampant. Not carrying a 300 gil antidote is the difference between "a close one" and "omfg this whm sux and i died".

Anyway... This is stuff in my safe/inventory. I don't carry it all at once.

In consumables I carry around these lately:
- Stack of echo drops. I've had the same stack for months.
- Stack of prism powder. I've never needed them much for SMN, but they're very handy for MNK or exploring ifrits/mount zhayolm.
- Stack of silent oil. Old HNM habit.
- 8 tool bags of shihei.
- 30 some shinobi-tabi.
- Varous amounts of holy bolts and demon arrows, made to sell on AH.
- Light Crystals for on the spot fishing rod repair.
- Materials to make insect balls. Only 8000 more moat carp to go...
- Hysteroanima. For promy ENMs.
- Terroanima. Ditto.

Reusables:
- Olduum Ring. Rarely used...
- Tavnazian Ring.
- Homing Ring.
- Warp Cudgel. And enough materials in my safe to make another 70...
- Ducal Guard Ring. Used on level 1 to 35 jobs.
- Treat Staff II
- Trick Staff II
- Signet Staff. Stupid sanction and signet having the same icon...
- Nyiri Brand reraise earring.
- Hi-Ether tank.

Food:
- Ginger Cookie. WHM and SMN food. I don't exp lately (too much lag) so these get me by just fine for smaller things like assault or random mini-NM or WS NM killing.
- Sis Kebabi. MNK food. Awesome when I'm fighting VTs or when I'm in a group with a bard using madrigal.
- Sole Sushi. For when I'm not in above mentioned parties.
- Meat Chiefkabob. I need to mule these again...they're not overly useful for my MNK any more (compared to sis kebabi).
- Melon Pie, for peacock charm BCNM.

Occasionally I tote around materials for juice. I carry antidotes when I'll be fighting stuff that uses poison. Or near aggresive monsters that use it. I think that carrying around hi-potions into an exp party might be a bit excessive. Although, truth be told, I feel bad for main healers when I'm on my MNK and I use berserk (or heaven forbid...a party with a bard).

Edit:

Reading comprehension ftw. You missed at least one statement he made concerning that.

To be completely fair, his post was made within a minute of their second post.

[Aeolus]

I said if a link/mpk attempt happened I wouldnt care if I died and I most certainly never said I would blame a new whm for not having poisona. If the whm doesnt have it by lv30+ I will blame them tho cause they have had plenty of time to learn about it by then. If a goblin aggroes them and they die I would say yea its theyre fault as they were not watching, if however it aggros in the heat of a battle you can usually pull it back with 2 mages anyway. Im not dieing and they dont need the items as they have the spells.

[Aeni]

To be completely fair, his post was made within a minute of their second post.

Idk. 5 seconds is eternity on the internet. Also, I knew that's not what Tipsy meant. I guess I know some posters here better than some of the LS members in the game.

[Murphie]

Idk. 5 seconds is eternity on the internet. Also, I knew that's not what Tipsy meant. I guess I know some posters here better than some of the LS members in the game.

That's kind of a hard line to take in regard to replies. But hey, whatev.

I would have taken Aeolus's post entirely different had it not been so aggressive and vague. We're not mind readers here. You have to use your words to get the point across.

[Aeolus]

Yea I shouldnt have sworn. I was just angry, not at u guys. Not that thats an excuse

[Spinnthrift]

Reading comprehension ftw. You missed at least one statement he made concerning that.

I had the annoying pleasure once of partying with a DRG that never had anything. I mean litterally ... nothing. He even wanted to buy some snoll gelatos off me because he didn't have food. Umm... wtf?

And I shall quote...

"What the hecks the point in me making a party with 3 melee and 3 mages if the mages cant do their f**king jobs. Exp is good, I dont need to bring anything except emp band unless I get a bunch of retard mages. HNM camping/Missions are dif, I do take stuff for those. Never died yet cause I didnt take items."

Ok.. hmm... let me reread this again...

'What the heck is the point in me making a party with 3 melee and 3 mages if the mages can't do their jobs.'

Hmm - sometimes mages get silenced too, sometimes bad things happen to good mages, you can't plan everything.. blah blah blah.. if you're not prepared for eventualities - you are a liability to the party. I miss anything?

Next sentence.

'Exp is good, I dont need to bring anything except emp band unless I get a bunch of retard mages.'

Again - the word food springs to mind here. Maybe reading literally.. but shoot... sounds pretty straight forward to me. Maybe it's those lack of retard mages, or maybe it's just the fact that I do bring what I classify as the essentials to party's nonstop. Or maybe - it's the fact that I appreciate that even the best mages can't do everything... maybe it's just because I barely use my Emp Ring, and find being well equipped more worthwhile to a party than a free 1k exp.

Penultimate sentence.

'HNM camping/Missions are dif, I do take stuff for those.'

Oh really?

Last sentence

'Never died yet cause I didnt take items.'

Good for you.

Hmm... I realise I posted after others said the same thing... but... that was the message that I replied to. No, I think you'll find my reading comprehension just fine Aeni. I read, I analysed, I thought to myself - goddamn.. that's a drain on my party's resources... and trust me.. if the Drg was in my party, funny - they would get kicked before the fourth mob was up*.

- Saeriel.

*reason why the fourth mob.. it takes three same type mobs to choose which food is best suited to exp depending on the mob/level difference/etc... not that non melee would ever know this, by sheer abscence of having to worry about such details.

[Aeolus]

If a mage gets silenced they should have an anditote no?, and Im not telling ppl how to play their jobs but really, come on. It is the role of the mage.