05-23-2006, 07:06 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,558 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 162 Thanked 102x in 65 Posts Gil: 6,353 Bank: 41,089 Total Gil: 47,442 Donate | In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? Just a questions, like what new items would you like to see, hanges to existing items... I would like to see a BLU actually wearing a Blue Cape(they can't >.>) and mabye a few new items for mags reguarding capes and neck slots... even if they are rediciously expencive. For instance, I wouldn't mind seeing a Wamoura Cape or something, that gave Conserve MP +2. Or a Karakul Scarf that adds Magic Attack and Defence bonus +1.  | Originally Posted by Ellipses | | Really, it's just like pretty much every question about this game that begins with "Why." The answer is "Because." | | Originally Posted by MCLV | | A subjob is like sex, you shouldn't have it untill your 18 but if you don't have it after 21 everyone laughs at you. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:09 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 80 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 514 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 514 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? i'd like to see all nm's become forced spawn and the mobs that drop trigger items be plentiful Teh Jobs - 75- nin (I spend more time at 74 =P ) / 50-pld / 55-thf (currently leveling)/ 48-rdm / 43-war / 43-rng / 35-brd / 37-blm /34-whm / 20-sam / 16-mnk
Teh crafts 81 Alchemy / 59 Woodcraft / 51 Cooking | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:11 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 665 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 12,942 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 12,942 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? So everyone can be exactly like everyone else, and there is no sense of acomplishment for actually achieving those great wonderous items that few people have? {All right!} I want the experience cheapened, too!
Ok, cincism aside, I actually like the fact that luxery items are rare and hard to get. It makes it more enjoyable when I finally earn it. If everyone could easily get those items, then whats the point of being the best; everyone is just a clone of eachother. If that sense of rarity could be maintained, then I'm all for force-pop.
Items I'd like to see: "Enhances Clear Mind." Nuf said. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:15 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 80 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 514 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 514 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? No, so you can take out the competition in the game, the thing that makes us hate each other and accuse one another (be it true or not) of cheating/hacking etc.
I never said make the nm's banal, but take the tedium out of it, you aren't a more special butterfly because you can devote eight hours a day for three weeks of your life camping something.
And loosing a claim after 2hrs to someone else rarely if ever sparks in me the desire to add a person to my friends list. Teh Jobs - 75- nin (I spend more time at 74 =P ) / 50-pld / 55-thf (currently leveling)/ 48-rdm / 43-war / 43-rng / 35-brd / 37-blm /34-whm / 20-sam / 16-mnk
Teh crafts 81 Alchemy / 59 Woodcraft / 51 Cooking | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:16 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 93 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,524 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,524 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? | Originally Posted by sevenpointflaw | So everyone can be exactly like everyone else, and there is no sense of acomplishment for actually achieving those great wonderous items that few people have? {All right!} I want the experience cheapened, too!
Ok, cincism aside, I actually like the fact that luxery items are rare and hard to get. It makes it more enjoyable when I finally earn it. If everyone could easily get those items, then whats the point of being the best; everyone is just a clone of eachother. If that sense of rarity could be maintained, then I'm all for force-pop.
Items I'd like to see: "Enhances Clear Mind." Nuf said. | I don't mind things being hard to get as long as they are considered "luxury items" by people. Problem is, there are too many asshat players that think a lot of these luxury items are "required" to party sometimes or else you're gimp. It's more of the communities fault that people feel forced to get things like Scorpion Harness than the design of the game. 72+2 Bonecrafting (Bone Purification, Filing, Protective Spectacles, Boneworker's Apron)
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5 Goldsmithing | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:20 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 386 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8x in 8 Posts Gil: 1,610 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,610 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? I would like some more high level shields that have good stats and look cool.
I want one that looks like the Ark Angel Paladin's shield and has stats
comparable to Koenig Shield. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:23 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,558 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 162 Thanked 102x in 65 Posts Gil: 6,353 Bank: 41,089 Total Gil: 47,442 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? Hell no, All mobs trigger pop = No thanks. However, I think SE should make the droprate of Peacock Amulet and Moldavite Earring 100%  | Originally Posted by Ellipses | | Really, it's just like pretty much every question about this game that begins with "Why." The answer is "Because." | | Originally Posted by MCLV | | A subjob is like sex, you shouldn't have it untill your 18 but if you don't have it after 21 everyone laughs at you. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:26 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 80 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 514 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 514 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? | Originally Posted by Harrison | | I don't mind things being hard to get as long as they are considered "luxury items" by people. Problem is, there are too many asshat players that think a lot of these luxury items are "required" to party sometimes or else you're gimp. It's more of the communities fault that people feel forced to get things like Scorpion Harness than the design of the game. | it's not that players need the high end stuff, it's just that melee jobs are not in demand.
so to compete with the extra melee jobs you have to differentiate by twinking.
do a search in your level group for each of the roles and you'll see what i mean
leveling ninja i was competing against maybe 1-2 people tops although rarely was there more than me. leveling thief i was competing against 4-8 people at least. leveling bard i was competing against no one.
So the problem isn't that people expect you to have SH+1 and snipers+1, it's that the guy you are competing against has all the toys and you don't even have nq versions of them, who would you choose if you were in my place putting together a pt? Teh Jobs - 75- nin (I spend more time at 74 =P ) / 50-pld / 55-thf (currently leveling)/ 48-rdm / 43-war / 43-rng / 35-brd / 37-blm /34-whm / 20-sam / 16-mnk
Teh crafts 81 Alchemy / 59 Woodcraft / 51 Cooking | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:32 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 203 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,517 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,517 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? Well, technically, it could be considered a game flaw that everyone thinks they need the scorpion harness. Think on it, if the scorpion harness gave only 1/2 the current stats, would so many people want it? What if there was a rare/ex item the same level that gave the same stats? So, yeah, I do partially blame the game on that.
Enhance Clear Mind - Yes, please.
I would love to see them go back and "upgrade" the older zones with some of the ideas from the new expansion pack.
- Sleeping mobs
- TP moves spawn additional mobs
- Hidden/hard to see mobs
Also, upgrade the graphics in the old zones. Like the toothpaste spill called sea water in Selbina.  The last remaining evil white mage on Ramuh. Killing tanks since 2004 Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey
"I can picture in my mind a world without war,
a world without hate.
And I can picture us attacking that world,
because they'd never expect it." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 07:41 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 386 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8x in 8 Posts Gil: 1,610 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,610 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? | Originally Posted by Onionsoilder | | Hell no, All mobs trigger pop = No thanks. | I agree with this. I like that fact that some items seem unattainable... (maybe
just make the land kings force pop long enough for me to get a full set of Koenig). | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 08:01 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 352 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 352 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? I want to see Reverend Kote and Hakama put in. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 08:19 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 367 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,237 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,237 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? I'd like to see the monk-specific belts move to a series of trials for the monk, akin to the Trial Size avatar battles and the Maat fight, that way it rests on your personal merit as a monk, and you could actually quest them at the level you can wear them. I've been thinking like a solo multi-quest instance with a boss at the end would be nice, and would give SquareEnix a testing ground for that sort of thing.
This is a pet peeve of a good number of monks... also seing the O.Kote and Jujitsu Gi going to Rare or Rare/Ex versions, and dropping the normal versions from a BCNM might be nice too.
I've only really got a monks perspective on things. 66MNK | 37WAR | 22SAM | 20THF | 20BST | 18 NIN | 17BLM | 10WHM Cooking 69 / Fishing 48 01 / 10 on Hoo Mjuu the Torrent (Monster Signa: O)
01 / 08 on Mee Deggi the Punisher (Ochiumsha Kote: O) 01 / 04 on Quu Domi the Gallant (Sarutobi Kyahan: O) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 08:23 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Pyro-Medic Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,289 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 177 Thanked 99x in 62 Posts Gil: 15,427 Bank: 32,503 Total Gil: 47,930 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? I would rather have all mobs popable with items. I think it's more fair than to have to wait 21+ hours for Shikigami Weapon. Obviously you people have not camped for YY robe to know how difficult it is to obtain a JSE for SMN that is the only piece of viable equipment for SMN to wear post 70+. Obviously you need skill to kill a monster.
I disagree with the post that everyone would be the same. People act different, behind each character is a different person playing, obviously their skills would be different and not the same. Their subs can be different. Their play styles different. Not everyone is 100% like the other person even with the same equipment. Can you honestly say that you've seen more than 1 Red Mage solo Genbu? What about Charby? Even if you had the same equipment as Avesta could you do that? I doubt it.
So in retrospect, Yes all NM & HNM should be pop able, this allows people that have jobs to compete as well with other people that well, camping something for 8 hours with a bot isn't much skill is it? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 08:35 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Shiva Posts: 52 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,382 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,382 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? I wouldn't say I'd like to see all mobs be forced spawn, but there are some items that are more of a pain in the behind then others to get. I know 75 MNKs still working on the brown belt because of the NM in Ordelles Cave. A friend just got his a month or so back after over a year of camping just the Ordelles NM. As for the YY robe, they should at least introduce a slightly lower stat version. With BRD they introduced a body peice in ToAU that, while not as good, is an alternative for the Sha'ir Manteel. Why not do that for SMN too? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2006, 08:47 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Undeniably Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Where there is pumpkin pies and high fives! Posts: 1,744 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8x in 2 Posts Gil: 25,570 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 25,570 Donate | Re: In future updates, what would you like to see happen to items? Set bonuses added to all JSE, Relic(working with Relic HQ), Conquest Points armor, and several sets of armor like Baron and Raptor lizard armor. Move the main item for weskit's feet to a BCNM/ENM.
Make the curent Set bonuses not suck... they should be amazingly good. Refresh should be 3/tick, not 1/tick. Make all new set bonuses kickass. If a MNK loses +20 attack and such from not wearing O kotes, make an armor set that gives +25 attack set bonus.
Add two types of set bonuses. A weaker one for wearing 2/5 or 3/5 and the full one for wearing 5/5.
Make enspells on weapons proc more.
Make Relic HQ not suck.
Add 30-60~ stats to Artifact Armor. Double Post Edited:
"Increase Critical Attacks" actually working.
Relic weapons having TP Regen.
Assault / Besieged latents armor working as one, in both situations.
More damage on Bahamut Scythe.
The new latent avatar weapons also working on weather and day. Last edited by Blood Red Poet : 05-23-2006 at 08:47 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:56 AM. | | |