[Ghik'Que]

Are you tired of inflation?
Do your teeth grind in your sleep at the thought of seeing prices rise everyday while you sit in Lower Jeuno shouting about it?
Do you suffer long bouts of depression induced by the knowledge that your friends are wearing leet gear that you can't afford?
Do you come to every possible internet web forum associated with FFXI online and post complaint after complaint about "inflation"?

WELL HAVE I GOT THE MIRACLE CURE FOR YOU MY FRIENDS!

you can stop whining and complaining about the "inflation" and actually go do something to make more gil.

ex.1 typical whiner in lower jeuno b!7c#ing about the prices-

"ZOMG! all these greedy people keep raising prices. STOP PAYING THEIR PRICES and things will go down!" - this method is known as the "I'll hope things get better while I do nothing about it" process

alternate solution -

Get out of Lower Jeuno, run out to Rolanberry Fields and kill some bees or where ever and whatever. Just do something about it instead of expecting a handout. This is called working for your money method.

ex.2 LS member complaining that he does farm but the price raises just as he has enough money and then he has to go farm some more - this is known as the "I haven't adapted to inflation yet" syndrome.

alternate solution -

Invest your gil in an armor item that's rising steadily with the "inflation". I spent almost two weeks fishing my tail end off and synthing sushi to save 20M for a scorpion harness (post xmas). Instead of hoarding 20M gil in my MH for two weeks I bought 2 flame rings and a sniper's ring when I had the money. Guess what? I made 4M profit off of those rings in that two weeks. This is called the "make your money work for you" method.

*SHOCK!* *SURPRISE!* *WOWZERS*

2 SIMPLE as can be solutions of countless possible solutions, yet everyone wants to sit around and b!7c# and moan about inflation.

Be proactive instead of reactive people. It's part of the game, if you can't adapt to it you LOSE. Simple. It's really not that bad once you get up off your @$$ and do something FOR YOURSELF instead of crying "WOE! is me" about EVERYDAY.

Everytime I see someone complain about inflation I ask 1 question - What's your main craft?

The answer I get? "Huh?! what's that got to do with anything?" or " Anycraft lvl 20 or lower."

Wow... you have to wonder why you don't have money? SE IMPLEMENTED this system for YOU to make gil. Sure you have to WORK for it, but c'mon I spend 40 minutes a day on my mule (80 alchemy) making poison potions netting a profit of 500K/7 stacks (AH Load - 70K/stack on Asura - farming/NPCing ingredients and crystals)

Then there'll be those people who complain "OMG crafting iz so exzpenzive dooood!" and that's yet another lazy excuse not to craft. I lvled Cooking to 70 on less than 500K (prolly the equivalent to 1.5M now) and at lvl 70 I could HQ mithbobs and make a FORTUNE. Especially if I farmed the tabors out in Sauro.

So really, do us all a favor and look for something VALID to scream and cry about. Something that you YOURSELF *can't* change. Maybe THEN you'll find some sympathy.

Or, just quit the game. ^^ No one's got you at gunpoint saying "PLAY BISH!"


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7 = t
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edit - cause I R teh speling champeon

[Balfree]

Well said.

However, it is frustrating sometimes...

I call it "Sorting out the Good Eggs from the Rotten Eggs", people who shout in jeuno about such matters are either on the road to quitting for WoW (Flame on, Bitches!), or on the road to IGE, which makes me stop for 10 seconds and realise that trying to reason with them is ultimatly pointless :- )~

[Timian]

I do agree with alot of this, but the thing is... an SH shouldn't have hit the 20 mill mark, in the first place. Now, it doesn't really bother me directly, since I have my finances well taken care off by now, but it's still kinda unnerving to watch prices rise the way they do.

[InuTrunks]

Yes, because putting MORE gil into the econmey is always a good thing....

They need to UP the AH tax is what I say.

[dragen3]

I don't say anything in the Original Post that puts More money into the economy, he doesn't mention doing repeatable quest or anything of that nature so his suggestions just continue the Money Transfer while removing small amount of gil from economy due to the AH tax.

[DakAttack]

You want money? Grow ore and gouge the prices yourself. Twenty days and a 1.5mil invesment comes out to AT LEAST a 500k profit on Seraph. If you're REALLY luck you could make 20mil I suppose, but growing ore is a real risky investment.

[Ghik'Que]

Originally Posted by InuTrunks

Yes, because putting MORE gil into the econmey is always a good thing....

They need to UP the AH tax is what I say.

/wrong!

The only way to bring more money into the economy is to do quests that give you money and 'NPCing' items.

If SE were to step in (they're NOT going to, they more than likely view this the same way I do - it's a part of the game, a challange, if you would.) what they need to do is find better ways to take more money out of the system

• Upping AH fees
• Raising airship fees
• making bazaar fees universal (stop the rolanberry flea markets)
• institute trade tax (and make it exponential so the clowns buying 20M gil from IGE pays 3M back to SE.) That will REALLY put a hurt on IGE. Granted they can send in smaller amounts, but that also fudges their system, allows for more errors, etc. It just throws a cog in their works)
• Nerf more NPC sell backs (rusty caps and black ink for instance)

They can't/shouldn't focus on just one area, players will just resort to another method (Rolanberry flea market is an ASTUTE example.) But this is only ***IF*** they step in, which I hope they don't. This is ALL part of the game and you just have to learn how to deal with it and adapt to it.

[x1ang]

heh i did that, but after christmas i couldn't afford the saplings anymore >.>

plus the 20~21 day period is pretty annoying

[eriatarka]

*invests all his gil in ores*

BIG MONEY BIG MONEY!

[Ghik'Que]

Yes gardening has HUGE pay offs if you know what you're doing - if not then there are HUGE risks associated with gardening. I netted 3 fire ores (2.1M on Asura = 6.3M profit ^^) from ten pots and it took about a month to go from cuttings (that I farmed) to saplings to ores/a BUTTLOAD of cinnamon.

[eriatarka]

This just proves how easy gil really is, even on asura ASURA FTW ^_^

[InuTrunks]

Ok, if no money is comming in, how do the prices get so high? It dosn't make sense

Please, explain to me, if gil is just getting traded around, how are we not bringing more money into the economy?

[qaitakalnin]

Ghik'Que as far as your "what is your crafting lvl" I got two words for you BITE ME

I have a lvl 58 in clothcraft and i do farm most of my material, but i was at a stage where my clothcrafting of one item actually was paying for my skill ups. But guess what NOT ANY MORE. I am on the Catsith server so prices are what is there.

Before mass screw up of economy:
Silk thread 12-20K (i farmed them)
cotton thread 8-12k (desyntyh aka using my craft)
Velvet Cloth 150-180k
silk cloth 195k

So what i would do is craft up some velvet cloth use that money (and the other moneys i got from the other drops while farming) to buy silk cloth and continue skilling my clothcraft. Not to bad as I main a ranger and still would have enough gil to buy appropriate gear (although no luxury gear) to keep my static happy with me.

After economy went screwy
silk thread75k (still farmin)
cotton thread 44k (still desythning whenever someone actually puts armors up for sale)
velvet cloth 185k
silk cloth 300k..........

So now rather than spend 4-5 hours and be able to fund my craft by doing like you suggest, i have to spend 8-9 hours (crafting other various items) to further my craft, which i have now been ruduced to farming 3 stacks of silk thread, hoping for no breaks and then cutting them up to hopefully gain some skill

I am trying to use my craft to fund my activities, however due to the MASSIVE )(*#y%)(*&#$)(@ that I dont really care why or how, jacked up the prices of things that it is no longer enjoyable for me to craft and a lot of times not profitable either. So your solution of craft more, isnt a solution if people cant craft because the price of crafting far outweighs any profit they may get.

Your alchemy is a bad example sir cause i am sure that you got your alchemy to that lvl *before* the economy went to hell, and rightly, you are bennifiting by that time and effort you put into your craft. I am trying to get to that lvl of crafting, but you know what with the way things are going I may not be able to again cause it simply isnt cost effective for me to do so.

Solution- For SE to implement *some* sort of control, guess what all those "free" capitalistic economies that we have in RL that we like so much, still have a lot of government control to them, which is why you dont walk into walmart one day (dec 20 lets say) pay 2.99 for a half gallon of milk, go next week when you need more and find out oh sorry it is 5.99 for the same half gallon. I think they need to lift the limits on what can be bought at the guilds so that the farmers actually have competition, but what do i know, apparetnly just someone who likes to complain.

[Ghik'Que]

/sigh it's all about finding things that you can HQ and profit from...

if clothcraft was so deadend and unprofitable *at all* prices would be raised to accomodate that or people would quit CC. I can't speak for CC at all, but I am sure there is something or there is a way. Same thing with Cooking (my main's craft) there are so many fluctuations associated with competition and undercutting and AH flooding that what I make on Monday to net some profit, might not be profitable on Tuesday. I switch over to something else then. You honestly can not limit yourself to simply relying on one *and only one* synth to make you a profit. I've never met or heard of someone saying to me that they have a craft 50+ that they couldn't turn a profit with.

As for InuTrunks' question: IGE - They have hundreds of millions (perhaps billions) squirreled away for each server. Before xmas gil was roughly $15/M, but during their xmas sale they cut that in half making it $6/M opening floodgates for idiot kids/teens to dump all their xmas money on. So the money has always BEEN on the server, just never in circulation. The US government does the same thing, it will raise interest/mortgage rates and pulls money back into the system.

[qaitakalnin]

I didnt say i couldnt make a profit, what i said was that I am at a stage where i cannot continue lvling my clothcrafting because the profit i would make off several items would still not cover the amount i would have to spend in the items that i would use to continue to skill up.

Do i just use 1 thing to make a profit on, no, but i also dont have hours and hours to spend just doing crafting as what is most enjoyable to me is not the crafting or the farming but the questing, missions and leveling. Now instead of spending maybe 3-4 hours a week farming and crafting to make gill to cover my skilling in clothcraft and my basic gear, ammo, tools and other misc. expensise i will now have to spend 9-10 hours a week to accomplish the same thing, which given my job and other RL matters means that I will have to cut into the time that i was able to spend doing the things i like in FFXI. Basically this is dangerously close to becoming a second job rather than something that I do for enjoyment. Right now I am staying because of the people i have met, the people that i meet, including the people i meet here.