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Old 07-19-2005, 11:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: New drops 100%?
Considering that they specifically said it in the details, I think it's s afe assumption.

"Blah blah blah will drop from the NMs which PREVIOUSLY DROPPED the above items."



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Re: New drops 100%?
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:08 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: New drops 100%?
Originally Posted by Aeolus
This will just make the origanals more expensive and then gilsellers will do bcnm/enms all day.
Why? You forget these people still need seals for BCs and ENMs can only be done once a week.

I still don't understand what you're trying to convey ...



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Re: New drops 100%?
I doubt gilsellers can do BCNMs all day or ENMs because the have a limit.

ENMs are like once per <# day>
BCNMs have a limit factor of Beastmen Seals (which is still easy to farm, but still. . . )

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Re: New drops 100%?
Not to mention, BCNM and ENM take skill, and gilsellers don't have it. A level 50 can't lose to Lizzy no matter how stupid he is (even if he turns his back completely, he will eventually lose claim and have her stolen before she kills him), but expecting the gilsellers to win BCNM/ENM... I'd like to see them try. I could use a good laugh after all this time waiting for the update to download. (Estimated 5 hours left... then again, it said 9 hours half an hour ago, so who knows.)

Then again, this applies to real players too. So it's possible that the sellable versions will become rarer. But if both the gilsellers, and regular players camping for profit, are eliminated from the NM areas... people might actually be able to camp NMs to get items to *use*. Unbelievable.

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Re: New drops 100%?
come on, they cant have EVERYTHING perfect. Making it this way, i feel, is the best shot at knocking out multiple birds with a less amount of Stone Throwing. If no one is happy, what do you suggest they did instead? And dont worry about taking 7 months to think about it, since it is likely SE thought long and hard about this as well. We got through their other changes, namely AOEs and Blink, Fuidama Nerf, Penta Nerf, and everything else, including changing location of Astrals, so its likely that we'll survive this as well



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Re: New drops 100%?
I think the replaced the Speed Belt too with the Swift Belt....*ponders*



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Re: New drops 100%?
They should just make all NM drops EX/RARE then you'd never have to worry about farming!



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Re: New drops 100%?
i'll try hunting the VK emp and see what it drops. expecting new items kinda



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Re: New drops 100%?
Aw man... i like to try Hoo Mjuu every once in awhile.. guess thats out now...



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Re: New drops 100%?
Alright people. This information is listed on 2 different threads in this forum. So quit screaming "SE YOU SUCK!!!" before you actually know what you're talking about and save us all an argument based on dubious info when the clarification can be found by simply doing a search in the forums. The existing NM's Leaping Lizzy, Valkurm Emperor, and Argus will now drop Rare/EX versions of the previously know Leaping Boots, Emperors Hairpin, and Peacock charm. New drops from the existing NM's are as follow. All are Rare/Ex, so unsellable.

Originally Posted by grunion
Empress Hairpin rare/ex
HP-15 DEX+3 AGI+3 Evasion+10
Lv.24 All Jobs[/b]

Peacock Amulet Rare/ex
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Bounding Boots rare/ex
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Now, the existing items IE: Leaping Boots, Emperors Hairpin, and Peacock charm will most likely be gotten from BCNM or ENM scraps, but that, LIKE ALL OF YOUR USELESS ARGUING, is based on speculation. So, I hope this clears up the endless debate somewhat.




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Re: New drops 100%?
I will be interested to see what the drop rate on the new items is.
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Re: New drops 100%?
i am 1/1 on VE for empress pin
and i also am 1/1 on LL for Bounding boots, and accoding to people there previous LL also dropped Bounding boots.
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Re: New drops 100%?
So far, 4 people I know have gotten the Peacock Amulet... drop rate seems to be farely high, or maybe even 100%. Someone is 1/3 on Bounding Boots and 0/7 on Empress Hairpin, hmm...
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Re: New drops 100%?
Tough noogies for them. At least we can finally say Au revoir to these mobs when we get our drops. I think they should do something about that fudgin Signa in Giddeus tho *sigh*. I mean, camping mobs to sell the drops. . . Arguably, thats pretty low. I mean its bad enough this game already feels like work



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