How bad has the gil selling got on your server?? - Final Fantasy XI :: Dreams in Vana'diel :: Community

mrmong · 05-25-2005, 12:38 PM

Well recently ive decided to level nin from 37-75, taking a look at the armor i need, jujitsu gi, fuma kyhan, hairpin etc.....price have gone waaaaaaaay up since i first started this game (few months after NA PC release). I am from ramuh server, i think ramuh has a reputation of being a little slower when it comes to server trends, but currently Hairpin is 900k-1M, fuma is 700k, jujitsu gi is 400k, these prices are ridiculous!

So i try my luck with camping these NMs, what do i see? DRG!!!! every where there is either DRG or a THF with a mage or someother PT member, always the same - no linkshell, always anon, always seeming to be mid level 60ish (at least it looks from their gear) lol i even remember camping amemit out of boredom with a bst friend of mine and seeing a pt of 5 DRG and one rdm taking out lizards.

I rarely ever camp the regular NM's, im in a HNMLS and normally only do the 3 big ones, but i even started to see some "gil sellers" (im not really sure if they are but my LS mates say they are) at behemoth................its really getting out of hand.
Im just curious, seeing how ramuh is "slow", to see how bad it is on the other servers, and if they are even dealt with on other servers.

Gman · 05-25-2005, 01:25 PM

It's pretty bad on every server.

I cant say that most of the major ground NM's are camped yet. I think for the most part (at least on my server) the gil farmers are satisfied with just farming smaller NM, and mobs with nice drops.

Things that are camped non-stop by gil-farmers on my server:

-Mee Degee Punisher (Ochuidos Kote)
-Amemet (Amemet skin)
-Stroper Chyme (Archers Ring)
-Most NM in Davoi (Jujitsu Gi, etc)
-Gobbues in Zi'tah (cuttings and moss)
-Ooze in Beadeaux (Dodge earring)
-Ghelsba outpost and every mine for chopping and mining
(probably more I cant think of atm)

Some have moved on to other harder NM such as Aquarius, and I've heard they camp Serket, roc, and Simurgh too, but I've never seen them there.

Rumors have been rampant that they are trying to get sky, but I cant see them being smart or coordinated enough to get through the Zilaart missions by themselves, let alone beat the sky NM's.

I've noticed more and more groups of high level gil farmers (70+) lately, which means they are probably using purchased accounts for farming the higher tier NM. Although it's bad, I dont think it's as bad as it was 6 months ago.

divisortheory · 05-25-2005, 02:30 PM

Don't worry, they'll get to Sky. It's only a matter of time. Two of the most notorious Gil selling groups on my server have recently obtained Sky. One of them got a Byakko's Haidate today in fact. Really, it's only a matter of time.

Illusion91 · 05-25-2005, 03:01 PM

Its really is getting out of hand...these A holes will be the reason i leave.....i cant live with it everytime i log on

DakAttack · 05-25-2005, 03:23 PM

Seraph's gil sellers have lessend in their amount. Kiss sticks to the Valk Emperor now, and I know there's a few other groups as well. Seraph is still screwed by its own players who blame the problems on gil sellers then proceed to undercut and overcharge. The gil sellers don't make as much as they used to anymore and certain don't cause as many problems as gil sellers on other servers. It's all in the players' minds.

Shiro_Hayate · 05-25-2005, 05:53 PM

I never understood, even with gil sellers, how the hell prices got so inflated and shit. I'm also wondering why Final Fantasy Xi is the only game where gil-selling got so screwed over. I've finally canceled my Final Fantasy XI account, gave everything to link shell and so did my gf. I don't think gil selling with ever get fixed, so Im going to play American games where money selling usually does not exist. It seems like any translated overseas game that becomes huge here (caugh, Lineage 2) gets infested with Chinese gil-sellers (majority of the ones I've met are Chinese, I'm gonna say they're all Chinese =P). Good luck with everyone who stays, just remember..it's a game. Don't get pissed off like I was when I saw prices go fucking high and I was trying to get my gf things.

Alucath · 05-25-2005, 06:31 PM

Uhm, I have a friend who plays EQ2, and I play WoW occassionally. Gil selling's a big problem, just probably not as big as it is in FFXI. Go to IGE and you'll see- they farm for every game out there.

Shiro_Hayate · 05-25-2005, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by Alucath
Uhm, I have a friend who plays EQ2, and I play WoW occassionally. Gil selling's a big problem, just probably not as big as it is in FFXI. Go to IGE and you'll see- they farm for every game out there.

It's not a big problem for me in WoW. I played EQ2 but Sony screwed up the economy so I quit. And besides, we can trust Blizzard to ban anyone who they think is a hacker (even if they are not). And as of now, World of Warcraft prices have not sky rocketed, and thanks to the instances, soul bounds, and pvp systems any gil seller that enters the game will get killed and that company would lose profit. This applies at least to PvP servers. Besides, the best items in game are Honor System orienated now. Problem with Final Fantasy XI was that they wanted to make the economy completely controlled and run by players. It was a great idea, everything started out cheap...but look at what we have now.

Unless Blizzard gets stupid and makes everything that's good not "Bind on Pick Up" then the whole game will be screwed. There might be an inflation coming, but there is not a massive influx of Chinese farmers shoving their asses in. And even if they do come in and ruin the game, if they're on my PvP server, I'm gonna have the pleasure of shoving my axe up their ass. If we could do that in Final Fantasy XI, things might be different, I'm sure some people here would dedicate their linkshell to camping gil-sellers and making their lives hell: I sure as hell would.

Pounce · 05-25-2005, 07:03 PM

One theory I've heard is that FFXI and Lineage2 suffer more from RMT due to the fact that the demand for "uber items" is greater than most other MMORPGs.

MMORPGs I've played extensively include UO, Eve Online, FFXI, and WoW. While RMTs are definitely present in all those games, the only game where I've seen them so blatantly obvious and disruptive is FFXI.

Rychiar · 05-26-2005, 05:55 AM

Yeah play Lineage 2...a game which is revolved around having to buy adena just to get anywhere in the game. You think FFXI is bad.... Its not anywhere close as bad as L2

Vinen · 05-26-2005, 06:09 AM

FFXI is flawed in that... many of its best items are droppable (tradeable).

Gman · 05-26-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by divisortheory
Don't worry, they'll get to Sky. It's only a matter of time. Two of the most notorious Gil selling groups on my server have recently obtained Sky. One of them got a Byakko's Haidate today in fact. Really, it's only a matter of time.

Sounds like they are playing more for fun than profit then. Byakko is no pushover, and takes a good alliance with knowledge and skill to beat him. Does that sound like your average gil-farmer? Most of them are dumb as a brick wall... look what they do for a living

The Amemet team on my server have some NICE items now. The THF has scorpion harness, the WHM has vermillion. Why would they get such expensive items if their only goal is just to profit as much as possible? They must actually ~enjoy~ playing to an extent.

kuu · 05-26-2005, 07:41 AM

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FFXI is flawed in that... many of its best items are droppable (tradeable).

What are you talking about? many of the best things are rare/ex. I don't see any osodes on sale, even though they are tradable. I don't see a lot of the good things being over priced.

Over priced is usually the middle area where surprise surprise, the biggest userbase are.

Things used to be somewhat overpriced, but now the economy has somewhat adjusted to it by simply moving aways from npc gil. Farming 100k isn't very hard these days.

Making new gil is still an underlying problem I believe since money supply is decreasing. But anyone can make decent AH gil these days.

Gman · 05-26-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by kuu
What are you talking about? many of the best things are rare/ex. I don't see any osodes on sale, even though they are tradable. I don't see a lot of the good things being over priced.

I agree to an extent. How much would you pay for a Joyeuse if it was able to be put up at AH? I know I would dish out at least 1 million for it. Same with a Moldavite earring, or Unger Boomerang. Some of the truly best items in the game are rare/ex. Unfortunately some aren't.

CarbonFibre · 05-26-2005, 09:27 AM

I saw a group of people who appeared to be gil sellers at Serket camp last night on Midgard. They seemed to have spent a lot on gear (at least some of them), and all were /anon and without a linkpearl except one. I remember them from when I was partying in Boyahda Tree. They were a party of 6, mostly /anon but the ones that weren't were rank 1, all without linkshells. They were exping off of Goobues in the high 60s and seemed to not be too great at the game. At Serket camp, they all had titles of Roc Star, so it's clear they've gotten claims before. Also, I heard they tried to MPK the linkshell that got Serket Tuesday night.