05-22-2005, 09:30 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 299 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,434 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,434 Donate | Next expansion? What do you think will be in the next expansion? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-22-2005, 10:33 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Made of Awesome Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Behind you. Posts: 975 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 84 Thanked 43x in 27 Posts Gil: 2,650 Bank: 3,210 Total Gil: 5,860 Donate | Ya, man. Chill, CoP isn't even done yet.
Hell, Zilart still has at least 1 more mission that SE needs to add in.  
Missions: Windurst: ★Rank 10★ | San d'Oria: ★Rank 10★ | Bastok: ★Rank 10★
Zilart: ★The Last Verse★ | Promathia: ★The Last Verse★ | Aht Urhgan: ★Eternal Mercenary★
Assault: ★Captain★ | Goddess: In the Name of the Father | Campaign: Mythril Wings of Service | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-22-2005, 10:34 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 422 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 1,801 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,801 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by mw21 I think they'll keep unlocking the already finished CoP for some time. | Fixed
As for next expansion, I'd love to see a more inter-nation based storyline and just sortof do away with alot of the Zilart/Kuluu stuff. There's 2 more Kingdoms hinted at in the CoP storyline I believe, so it'd be kind of cool to have some kind of interaction with those and the current countries, but instead of it being some ancient evil (ala the kid) or something being reawakened it be more of a different style... like a power hungry leader or something like >_> | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-22-2005, 11:05 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 291 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 720 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 720 Donate | I'd prefer they do something with Bard, and here's what I mean.
Restrict Bard to Male Only, and make the Females get a Dancer Class instead. They should also be able to work together, i.e. a Bard plays a certain song, and the Dancer can dance to the same tune increasing the status effects. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-22-2005, 11:23 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 79 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,351 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,351 Donate | I posted this on Allakazam, and Gamefaqs, but I noticed a trend in FFXI.
First there was FFXI, and ROZ missions were being added as time went on. Between the Feb-Apr updates in 2004, they finished the Zilart storyline. That's 5-7 months before the next expansion came out (Sep 2004: COP.) They said in a past interview that they will release a new EXP pack every 1 to 1 1/2 years. My guess? New expansion pack when XBOX 360 comes out, or sometime after. I guess January-March of next year for new EXP pack. This means I bet COP finishes 5-7 months before the next EXP pack comes out.
Oh here's the bulk of this post. http://rpgfan.com/news/2005/1529.html
Producer talks about visual upgrades for XBOX 360 version (or keep beating around the bush about 360 maybe having a visual upgrade. He also mentions how long the next EXP pack HAS been in development. Speculate away folks, it's been in the works for some time now. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-22-2005, 11:42 PM | #7 (permalink) | | - Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,025 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 8,891 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,891 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Ayakino I'd prefer they do something with Bard, and here's what I mean.
Restrict Bard to Male Only, and make the Females get a Dancer Class instead. They should also be able to work together, i.e. a Bard plays a certain song, and the Dancer can dance to the same tune increasing the status effects. | We wouldn't let this game to be like another RO :sweat:
If anything I'd like more areas that when you enter you get music. Because you poor mages listen to nothing when you fight  .  Blm.75 - Whm.56 - Mnk.58 - Rdm.48 - Nin.37 - War.37 - Drk.37
Merits - 98
Goldsmith - 85.2 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2005, 12:13 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 187 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,095 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,095 Donate | I don't remember where I found this, it was pretty recent. This might be a hoax but it sounds plausible. I will try to find the site where I got his from.
Spoiler | Quote: | *******UNCONFIRMED*******
Flight of the Phoenix - Story
The death of Phoenix brought a new age of unrest of Vana'Diel, but hidden deep within the land's most violent volcano a mysterious egg has hatched. The long dorment rest, Phoenix has risen once more to the pouring tears. But why? Is the land of Vana'Diel threaten to be destructed once again?
Flight of the Phoenix - Info
- Introduces Phoenix as a heavy character. Whether he is summonable or not is not known yet.
- Cid plays a large role in this story.
- More airship fights?
- Comparable to Rise of the Zilart in terms of new contents added.
- First direct sequel expansion pack. Chains of Promanthia missions must be completed to be able to continue onto Flight of the Phoenix.
Flight of the Phoenix - General
- A slew of new equipments.
- Ifrit's Couldren will expand to include three (3) new areas; Molten Core, Unfilled Springs, and Chamber of Collosus.
- New land mass to the situated around the Northeast corner. Name? Unknown
- A huge uncharted part of Al'Teiu, seperate from Chain of Promanthia, will be opened.
- Linkshell House. A giant moghouse for linkshells only?
- Seach comments are now storeable.
- New music will play during battles.
- Autogroup is removed.
Flight of the Phoenix - Jobs
- No new jobs introduced.
- Summoner: Summons will get a new more powerful abilities/spells. There's no info on new summons.
- Black Mage: Flare is now useable as an Ancient Magic.
- Black Mage: New tier elemental magic will be usuable.
- Ninja: New ability - Katanuki? Unknown
- Dragoon: New ability - Lancet? Unknown.
- Beast Master: New ability - Animal Within? Unknown
- Paladin: New trait - One Mind
- Level remains at 75 it seems
Flight of the Phoenix - Battles
- New beastmens?
- New Notorious Monsters will be introduce.
- New gameplay: Larger than life Notorious Monsters so powerful it requires more than an Alliance to defeat. Multi-Alliance? How will drops be handled?
- New Burning Circle Battles will have different ways to achieve success. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2005, 12:44 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 291 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 720 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 720 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Rico We wouldn't let this game to be like another RO :sweat: | I believe Final Fantasy Tactics came out before RO, and the job system was like that. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2005, 12:46 AM | #10 (permalink) | | ONE WAY Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,919 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 89 Thanked 235x in 176 Posts Gil: 32,334 Bank: 17,769 Total Gil: 50,102 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Ayakino I'd prefer they do something with Bard, and here's what I mean.
Restrict Bard to Male Only, and make the Females get a Dancer Class instead. They should also be able to work together, i.e. a Bard plays a certain song, and the Dancer can dance to the same tune increasing the status effects. | Snap! /em busts out the dollar bills | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2005, 01:01 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 25 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 290 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 290 Donate | About the bard thing, how would you deal with the female characters already playing Bard? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2005, 01:25 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 976 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 7 Thanked 51x in 29 Posts Gil: 2,432 Bank: 18,881 Total Gil: 21,313 Donate | | Quote: | | - Black Mage: Flare is now useable as an Ancient Magic. | It is already so. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2005, 04:52 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 205 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 982 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 982 Donate | I doubt they'd make you complete CoP to play the next expansion.
CoP didn't require that you beat the RotZ missions...
They pissed off enough people (and still do) by tossing out an expansion where most of the content is locked behind restrictive missions.
Levels is one thing... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2005, 08:41 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,297 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,616 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,616 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Langolier I doubt they'd make you complete CoP to play the next expansion.
CoP didn't require that you beat the RotZ missions...
They pissed off enough people (and still do) by tossing out an expansion where most of the content is locked behind restrictive missions.
Levels is one thing... | I agree. As good as I hear the stoyline in CoP is, the missions are very dificult, and annoying. Many people will never complete them, and thus will not buy the new expansion, if CoP completion is required. The way I see it, advancing in Zilarrt missions gives you something. Advancing in CoP missions doesnt (except access to a few new areas, but what is the ~real~ advantage in that?) RDM 75 BST 75 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-23-2005, 10:23 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 370 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 80 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 80 Donate | Sounds like nothing more than a hoax. Any mission additions would have to be standalone, or would require that CoP missions be dumbed down significantly; I doubt much more than 1~3% of the FF playing population have completed all the missions. While the missions themselves are not too difficult, the fact that they're a bunch of stupid timesinks kill any motivation to assist others (parts of chapter 8 could be considered as help-able since you could go for the map NPCs, but that ends up doubling the mission time, and leads to unneeded stress).
Those doing the missions on a static may think differently, but most of the JPs playing through the CoP missions do them on pickups -- and it's turned to more of an obligation to finish the missions than anything else. Frustration grows, as if you miss the chance to do the missions within the first week or so (when most of the people get them completed) you're probably going to be stuck, unless you shout for hours. The NA pickup crowd? Pretty much all I hear are the Promyvion shouts, and even those seem to fail often.
So, assuming that 3% complete the missions, and assuming there are 1mil subscribers, that's still only 30,000 players that may find the 'missions' appealing. That's also assuming that all of them will want to go through these missions again, after playing through a myriad of slow quests. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:56 AM. | | |