05-17-2005, 01:31 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cheshire, U.K. Posts: 760 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 110 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 28,899 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 28,899 Donate | Which Weapon Is Best For My LvL 21 WHM? Hi.
I bought myself a Holly Pole a while ago because of the ''DMG : 20'' on it, so I assume that this particular weapon would give enemies 20% damage.
But yesterday, a friend ingame kindly bought me some new LvL 20 equipment, one of them being the Misery Staff. But now I feel a bit confused because this staff has a less dmg% than the Holly Staff I bought originally.
but what confuses me more, is that the Holly Staff I bought, is lvl 16 with more dmg than the Misery Staff at lvl 20 my friend bought for me.
So because of this, I'm thinking that my choice of weapon may be better than the one I was given, and I'm not sure why lower lvl weapons have more dmg than higher lvl weapons.
can someone help me out and tell me which of these two choices of weapon is the better one for my LvL 21 WHM, and why this is please?
Thanks  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 01:34 PM | #2 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,535 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 22 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 49,741 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 49,741 Donate | you should seriously stop meleeing and use your spare time to rest for mp. dmg for weapons are irrelevant. you should be using items with stat bonuses. +MP and +MIND stuff. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 01:54 PM | #3 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 137x in 107 Posts Gil: 31,927 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 31,927 Donate | Get a Yew Wand, level 18 +3mnd and int. And a mahogani shield I think is around your level?
As a Whm, concentrate on healing. It's ok if you sure you have enough MP to give your PT chances to chain exp, you can melee to get your skill up. But never concentrate on damage at this level. It's pointless. For a new player I reccomend you don't melee at all too. It takes some time to learn about exp chains and MP management. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
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- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 03:37 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cheshire, U.K. Posts: 760 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 110 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 28,899 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 28,899 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by neighbortaru you should seriously stop meleeing and use your spare time to rest for mp. dmg for weapons are irrelevant. you should be using items with stat bonuses. +MP and +MIND stuff. | I do! Those bonuses are on other items though.
For e.g. earrings, waist belt, and tunic.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 03:40 PM | #5 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,535 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 22 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 49,741 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 49,741 Donate | get it for your weapon too. Wands, as Jei posted, are really great. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 04:05 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cheshire, U.K. Posts: 760 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 110 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 28,899 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 28,899 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Jei Get a Yew Wand, level 18 +3mnd and int. And a mahogani shield I think is around your level?
As a Whm, concentrate on healing. It's ok if you sure you have enough MP to give your PT chances to chain exp, you can melee to get your skill up. But never concentrate on damage at this level. It's pointless. For a new player I reccomend you don't melee at all too. It takes some time to learn about exp chains and MP management. | I've been doing a bit of soloing for a short time now, as I've taken quite an interest in farming, to collect stacks of items to sell at the AH. (been trying to raise myself quite a bit of gil for items and hopegully become quite rich. Infact I have to say that my ingame character is already wealthier than I am in real life too, but I still don't feel I have enough to buy my character some of the things she still needs) Also been farming items for a guild I'm in too, so that helps. So just for the moment, this is mostly for solo purposes. PTing will come in a bit later on.
Meleeing - whenever anyone mentions that word, I feel confused about what it means. I know it's a fighting position with weapons, but you suggested/reccomended that I get myself a Wand and a Shield.
Aren't staves 'AND' Wands both melee weapons then?
Also, maybe if I use a Staff for solo purposes, and a Wand for PTing. Would that be okay?  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 04:20 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 911 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,770 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,770 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Snowball Also, maybe if I use a Staff for solo purposes, and a Wand for PTing. Would that be okay? | Yeah, you've got the right idea. 'Meleeing' as they are talking about is the act of engaging the monster with your weapon, and actually attacking it. In a couple of levels, meleeing as a whm will get to be dangerous. For example, in Yuhtunga Jungle its best for the WHM to stay out of range of Mandy's AoE sleep attacks. If you are meleeing when the sleep attack goes off, there will be nobody to 'cure' and wake the rest of the party up. Just an example.  Typho - Elvaan - San d'Oria - Rank 10 - Titan
THF - 75 | RNG - 55 | NIN - 38 | WAR - 27 | WHM - 20 | SAM - 16 | MNK - 14 | BLM - 10 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 06:38 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cheshire, U.K. Posts: 760 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 110 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 28,899 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 28,899 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by ibroyles Yeah, you've got the right idea. 'Meleeing' as they are talking about is the act of engaging the monster with your weapon, and actually attacking it. In a couple of levels, meleeing as a whm will get to be dangerous. For example, in Yuhtunga Jungle its best for the WHM to stay out of range of Mandy's AoE sleep attacks. | Mandy? Is that another NM??:confused: | Quote: | | If you are meleeing when the sleep attack goes off, there will be nobody to 'cure' and wake the rest of the party up. Just an example. | This wouldn't be a party though. In a party, being a WHM, I'm always the one to heal everyone else, when I'm standing at the back with 2-3 others healers too.
But my choice of weapon is just for solo purposes only, I think. you know..... for farming stuff.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 06:43 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: my house Posts: 73 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 149 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 149 Donate | Mandy is just short for Mandoraga, its not a NM.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 06:47 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cheshire, U.K. Posts: 760 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 110 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 28,899 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 28,899 Donate | So, overall..... in a pt, is it best to use a Wand and Shield (for MND and other stats. Also need a build up of MP too, but they weren't noted on the Wand and Shield mentioned by Jei when I checked them out at allakhazam.com. Guess I'll get my MP from other equipment instead hey?) then?
Then for solo/farming I could use a Staff.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 06:47 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Resident Forum Whore Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 1,313 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11x in 9 Posts Gil: 2,772 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,772 Donate | If you want a high damage weapon for soloing, get a hammer of some sort. Less delay than a staff | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 07:04 PM | #12 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 137x in 107 Posts Gil: 31,927 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 31,927 Donate | hmm at your level it's a bit hard to consider what weapon to use for farming. It will be a painful thing to do regardless.
Later one you'll get Hexastrike, a 6 hit 1hand mace WS which is totally awesome and for that you should keep your mace skill trained (wand is considered a mace too.) So it might be best if you use hammer maybe... Mace are really weak at low level tho so prepare to spend lots of time if you really are planning to go farm.
I would go for fishing skill if I'm a whm. Teleporting to different locations gathering fish for sell while waiting for PT... Icemage once told us he can make 90k/hour just fishing. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
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- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-17-2005, 07:04 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 162 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 636 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 636 Donate | WHM solo = Hammer type weapon. Much faster and do more damage. Plus Hexa-strike at club skill 220 is a godly weapon skill.  Trys - 67 BRD/WHM - Ragnarok (Active) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-18-2005, 05:49 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 25 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 116 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 116 Donate | | Quote: | | Guess I'll get my MP from other equipment instead hey? | Pies. That's always been my mp solution as a mage type, especially since I'm Mithra.  WAR: 33 MNK: 17 WHM: 14 BLM: 24 RDM: 17 THF: 16 RNG: 6 BST: 12 DRK: 19 NIN: 19 PLD: 29 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-18-2005, 11:59 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Resident Forum Whore Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 1,313 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11x in 9 Posts Gil: 2,772 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,772 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by McMeanass Pies. That's always been my mp solution as a mage type, especially since I'm Mithra. | Mithras MP isnt bad >.> now if you said "Thats always been my mp solution as a mage type, since im a Galka"... that would make more sense. Mithra's mp is about the same as Hume | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:54 AM. | | |