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Old 01-16-2005, 09:22 AM   #1
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New Rare/EX weapon latent trigger?

I did a search for this, but didn't see an answer given though the question has been asked before...

Has the latent effect trigger for the new Rare/EX weapons dropped in BCNMs been found?
Specifically for me, I got an Expunger yesterday when doing the Operation Desert Swarm uncapped BCNM...seems like one of these weapons drops every round, we got three of the bows, two of the katanas, and one of the greataxes.

The bow is 26 DMG with +9 Ranged ACC, level 72 with lots of jobs (shortbow). Latent effect bumps it to 39DMG. It's valuable to me for skillup anyway, but if anyone knows what triggers the higher damage latent that'd be cool so I know when I can use it instead of my Rapid Bow +1 (38DMG but only +3 Ranged Acc).
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I have the Heart Snatcher, and have been trying to figure it out myself ... but so far no luck. On Allkazham there are no posts assosicated with the item, and every other search I've attempted has come up short.
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Well, from another post...Latent is apparently active during a WS.

However...I also was told in-game that if you do 500 WS with it, the effect becomes a permanent stat not Latent. Haven't seen that mentioned anywhere else, but certainly an interesting possibility.
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I have also heard a rumor it becomes pernament if you kill 300 ep+ mobs.
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With the weapon as the killing blow, or with it equipped? Wondering because I just got my Sapara of Trials yesterday ('bout time) and will be doing quite a bit of killing EP soon. I do usually have the bow equipped now though...so if it eventually loses the latent I guess I'll know :sweat:
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I have not seen or heard any sort of answer to this question, nor any proof to any claims made about it.

Things I've heard:

#1 Latent Damage only applies when doing a Weaponskill.
This would be very easy to test since we know (in general) how to calculate WS damage. Find other weapons with similar Damage ratings and compare WS damages.

#2 Latent Effect only active inside a BCNM.
This was something suggested by a LS member, with no additional research or testing.

#3 Latent Effect becomes Permanent after a certain condition is met.
Number of WS used?
Number of a specific WS used? For example, Perform Rampage 200 times with the Rampager?
Killing X amount of monsters with the weapon
Killing X amount of monsters with the weapon by using a weaponskill
Killing X amount of monsters with the weapon by using a specific weaponskill
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i have the coffinmaker, i'm pretty certain the latent is active during weaponskills.

if theres some other condition i have no idea.
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I was told by my JP friend that you need to do 500 WS on EP+ mobs for the latent to come off. He has 100 GS and 100 Wood so I'm pretty sure he's right.
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100 GS and 100 Wood
Maybe you mean 80 and 80? Because thats impossible :O.
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Most likely crafting mules.
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Maybe you mean 80 and 80? Because thats impossible :O.
Maybe he means 100 great sword and 100 woodworking =)
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He has mules for crafting. Its common for high level crafters. Regardless, playtime doesn't give him some divine insight into this latent trigger. He reads forums the same as anyone else. Be they JP forums or what not.

So far I havn't seen any proof to any of these theories. Numbers will tell the story. If its WS, the Coffinmaker gun should do roughly the same damage on WS as a Hellfire, as well as markedly less on single shots being a 14 point difference in base damage w/out latent, and a 1 point difference latent activated. Minus the +rng atk on hellfire of course.

I'll mess w/ these both tonite and see what numbers I get.
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Why cant you have 100goldsmithing and 100clothcraft?
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Once you take a craft skill past 60 (excluding fishing and the hidden craft skills like chocobo digging), you start using up your advanced points. One player only has 40 of these.
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So you can only have one craft at 100 and if you do all the rest have to stay capped at 60?
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