question about genbu&suzaku drops, and seiryu popping

[Berticus]

just a few 4神　questions..

has anyone ever seen genbu drop w.abjuration: leg? (for crimson cuisses, the +movement speed legs) some sites say he does and others have a ? and in all the times i've killed genbu i've never seen it drop. plus something insane like 12% movement haste seems like it wouldn't come off something as easy as genbu.

from your experience, what are the drop rates for venomous claw and shining cloth from genbu & suzaku respectively?

finally, how the hell do you pop steam cleaner? right now we've tried: enter velugannon at an entrance with pots, go into the basement, and let detectors summon 3 times. after many many hours we haven't gotten one pop. is this just a really rare pop? could you keep letting the same detector summon? or can steam cleaner only be popped the first time?　

thx in advance for your help('◇')ゞ
berticus

[Allen]

Up!

Have been fighting Defender at J6-F6/Basement for 4hr and no SC.. orz

[Heimadal]

Hmm got SC on the 1st summon..
Guess we're just lucky then

[2.0]

That abjuration drops off nidhogg and kirin. The crimson feet abjuration drops off genbu but I'm certain you already knew that.\

Correction: Only Kirin

[ill]

Crimson legs only drop off Kirin.

Drop rate on venemous claw for genbu is so-so and shining cloth off suzaku is ultra rare.