02-19-2004, 12:58 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 25 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 103 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 103 Donate | Best Way to Time a Skillchain? I'm just curious about how people time their weaponskill activation on skillchains--how many use macros vs. clocks vs. just counting to themselves. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-19-2004, 01:09 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 49 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 261 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 261 Donate | I dont exactly skill chain much now :sweat:
But my macros consist of something like
"/p Using Shining Blade in 3 seconds!"
/wait 3
/ws "Shining Blade" <t>
and I'd hit that as soon as I saw the person in the chain before me ready his skill.
For magic bursts, I just start casting as soon as I see the ready WS message.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-19-2004, 02:58 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 105 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 875 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 875 Donate | You execute your WS after the last WS's graphic funishes.
It will get you a SC everytime.
However if you are the log watches, just start counting when you see the yellow text "xxxxx readies xxxxx"
1001
1002
1003
and then execute yours WS.
personally I have moved away form the /wait macros because it is a bit too limiting. You have 2-5 seconds to link, and depending on the situation you might not want to wait a bit longer, or a not as long. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-19-2004, 04:14 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 16 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 26 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 26 Donate | I also just count to three in my head, and it works every time. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-19-2004, 04:22 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 683 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,871 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,871 Donate | I don't count...its just a skill I've developed. Once you do it a few times, it'll come to you naturally.  DRK75/WAR75/BLU75/RNG75/NIN72 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-19-2004, 04:45 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 204 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 469 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 469 Donate | All of my WS macros are set up like this
/party (insert name of weapon skill here)!
/wait 1
/ja "Boost" <me>
/wait 1
/ws "(Insert name here)" <t>
I usually start it 1-2 seconds after it reads "Johndoe readies ______". Skill Chains are very easy to do. Annoys me when I go to raise a sub in Valkurm and they still don't have it down   Currently Playing:
City of Heroes | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-20-2004, 12:09 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 1,525 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,671 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,671 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Tidane I don't count...its just a skill I've developed. Once you do it a few times, it'll come to you naturally. | yup 75MNK, 62BRD , 37WAR , 37THF, 37WHM Full AF "Paragon of Monk Excellence" Genkei 5 Completed Rank 10 San, Rank 8 Windy, Rank1 Bastok Zilart and CoP Missions Complete 93 Merrits, slacking need to work on that..
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Faith Torque, Black Belt , 3/5 Tu'lia Set, 4/5 AF2, 1/5 AF+1 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-20-2004, 09:42 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 316 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 316 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Teriana I dont exactly skill chain much now :sweat:
But my macros consist of something like
"/p Using Shining Blade in 3 seconds!"
/wait 3
/ws "Shining Blade" <t>
and I'd hit that as soon as I saw the person in the chain before me ready his skill.
For magic bursts, I just start casting as soon as I see the ready WS message. | thats what i do and imo the best way that way the next person will know when to do their WS(which is esential if you got someone whose not very good with SC's)
EDIT: oh and sometimes if i just haven't set up a macro for a particular WS(if i don't use it often) i just wing it  which is pretty easy. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-20-2004, 02:21 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 208 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 208 Donate | practice makes perfect
i dont count or anything - it just comes to you once you do it right a few times | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-20-2004, 04:21 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 126 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 282 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 282 Donate | as a thief/monk i would hit this macro as soon as I see the person before me "ready"
/ja "Sneak Attack" <me>
/wait 2
/ja "Boost" <me>
/wait 1
/ws "Fast Blade" <t>
timing is difficult, gotta make sure u dont hit them before u do the weaponskill.  ƒNƒWƒƒƒ^
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ŒÀŠE‚P?`‚Q?I | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-20-2004, 05:29 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 1,525 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,671 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,671 Donate | once you get higher lvl you'll stop using the
/p Preparing WS in 3
/wait 3
/ws "here" <t>
cause you'll notice it'll fail a lot...
failed renkei hurts you more and more as you advance so i would highly recomend
/p (WS) <call>
/ws "here" <t>
and that you learn the timings
then even if the macro does fail and you have time to notice it you can generally respam the macro and still have time to chain 75MNK, 62BRD , 37WAR , 37THF, 37WHM Full AF "Paragon of Monk Excellence" Genkei 5 Completed Rank 10 San, Rank 8 Windy, Rank1 Bastok Zilart and CoP Missions Complete 93 Merrits, slacking need to work on that..
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Faith Torque, Black Belt , 3/5 Tu'lia Set, 4/5 AF2, 1/5 AF+1 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-20-2004, 10:32 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 137 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 353 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 353 Donate | Oh if it was only that simple to execute a skill chain #.# No real reason to do a skill chain when no one is "ready" to perform them. What oh what would make a perfect skill chain with the most amount of damage...
Everyone in the PT macros their TPs. WAR has done shield/armor/full Break. RDM has done enfeebles. BRD has done Madrigals. Second tank is ready to allow the THF to sneak/trick. Everyone is ready to Skill Chain. Everyone does ATT up skills. WAR being the second tank does War Cry and Provoke to get the mob to aggo him/her. THF gets behind the main tank. Skill Chain starts. The weakest WS to start, ending with the highest damaging player WS and MB.
Only in a Static PT have I've been able to make the most out of a skill chain.
Another thing I've noticed while experimenting with WS. While using 1 handed weapons, I've noticed when I execute the WS just a split second before my auto swing, the amount of damage I do is a lot more(2-3x more) than if I were to execute the WS while I'm auto swinging or in between swings. What happens when I do this just right, I'll auto swing and then immediately do the TP attack, almost looking as if it was one attack. And with Double attack, it's crazy to see 3 swings in 1 second. As for 2 handed weapons, it seems when I execute WS a second before the auto swing, I'll have the same effect. A super fast WS with 1 to 2(if Double attack is involved) auto hits right after. All in 1 second. It's so fast you'll not see the other auto attacks, and the WS animation is still going on. You'll just have to see the log of it to know you performed all those hits. Again the amount of damage done is more for the WS when done just right. It seems the longer you rest before executing a 2 handed weapon skill, the more damage you can do. This has been consistant for the whole time I've played.
I recommend everyone try to experiment with this. If anything, you'll get a laugh at seeing 3-7 hits in 1 second depending on what WS you are doing. But honestly, you'll see more damage done if you can time your auto swing and WS just right. Who doesn't hate seeing a WS do less damage than your normal swing. >.,< | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-20-2004, 10:45 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 25 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 141 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 141 Donate | Hm usually I just wait for the person's ws animation to end then I immediately hit my ws macro. Seems to work for me everytime.  Server: Odin
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Bastok Rank 3 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-21-2004, 10:15 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 783 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,725 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,725 Donate | For starting skillchain, I have a seperate macro which says something like:
[skillchain type in translator] Skillchain Start!! <call10>
then I quickly hit my WS macro, the reason I can't put that in my WS macro is that I already have berserk and boost in it, I also wanna put focus in, but oh well...
For being the 2nd or 3rd in chain, I just stare at the log like no tomorrow, as soon as I see anything related to 'Start skillchain!', I will have my 'cursor' on my WS macro(I use controller, so, I don't press ctrl+1), then wait for the system message that says 'xxxxx readies ABC'... or you can just wait for the WS animation to start, you know how there is light flashes underneath the WS user before using WS, I wait for that moment... and then I hit my macro | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:56 AM. | | |