This Is What I Think Is Happening...

[MHouser]

The first and most recent thing I can think of that has slightly delayed Final fantasy 11 (assuming the game is already fully translated and localized) is Sony's Everquest Online Adventures.
I assume that Sony, while fully supporting Final Fantasy 11, didn't want FF11 to steal their thunder. That is, that Sony didn't want FF11 to divert any attention from the new Everquest game. Sony wants that EQ OA to be very successful in order to maintain the good sales of their Network Adapter. Once everquest has a month or so to establish itself then I assume Sony will allow themselves to release the HDD.
I believe that Square has agreed to this strategy. And why not? I'm sure Square is VERY earger to get FF11 out on the market here in North America (you too Canada). But it knew to let Sony have their moment in the spotlight with EQ OA. Once Sony got the release of EQ OA out of their system, this cleared the way for Sony to devote all their marketing powers on Final Fantasy 11's release. It's perfectly fair marketing tactics. And since Final Fantasy 11's availibility here in NA depends on Sony's HDD, Square knew to stand back a bit and let Sony concentrate on Everquest.
But now that Everquest's release is out of the way, the North American world should be hearing something about the HDD's release.
Soon. Soon. We Hope...

[vagtark]

I dont know I think the delayed of FFXI is because Sony is trying to find more game companies to make games for the HDD. Because so far FFXI is the only known game that needs to have the HDD.????I think?????????:spin:

[lostboyz]

f*ck the police
and sony too

[Saken]

Originally posted by vagtark
I dont know I think the delayed of FFXI is because Sony is trying to find more game companies to make games for the HDD. Because so far FFXI is the only known game that needs to have the HDD.????I think?????????:spin:

They're making Star Wars Galaxies for the PS2... I think.

[vagtark]

Well if they are going to have the HDD for Star Wars Galaxies then you know the HDD will come out sometime. :angel:

[Leonstrife]

That is exactly what I was thinking. Although it is annoying for us to have to wait longer for FFXI, it is a smart move on Sony's part. By not releasing the HDD, they are hoping that some not-so-die-hard FF fans will give up on the wait for FFXI and will buy EQOA. The true fans will still remain devoted to FFXI, no matter what the wait is .

I might get EQOA just to help pass the time till FFXI is released.

[vagtark]

Hellllll. If I get EQ(which i wont) with all of my luck FFXI and the HDD will come out:spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:

[MHouser]

SWG has HDD support...
Where did you hear that???

[Leonstrife]

Originally posted by vagtark
Hellllll. If I get EQ(which i wont) with all of my luck FFXI and the HDD will come out:spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:

lol, well, Beta III of EQOA is the first time I've ever touched any form of EQ. I thought it was fun and pretty entertaining. Its nothing compaired to FFXI, but I've had this debate with myself whether or not to get it. I'm thinking the exact way you are thinking though, because I know if I get it, then FFXI will come out a month later, and my purchase of EQOA will have been a waste.

SWG for the PS2?? Thats the first time i've heard that. I thought it was just for PC.

[MHouser]

Why not try and get both...
Never hurts to try...
But I know for sure I am getting them both
Just need word on that damn hdd so I can go and preorder the damn thing...lol

[Leonstrife]

Originally posted by OsamaBin4Dick
Why not try and get both...
Never hurts to try...
But I know for sure I am getting them both
Just need word on that damn hdd so I can go and preorder the damn thing...lol

I know 100% that I will get FFXI. I just don't know about EQOA because once FFXI is released, I will stop playing EQOA all together. Also, I don't want to pay a monthly fee for EQOA. I'm more than willing to do it for FFXI, but for EQOA....not so much.

[vissione]

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You're far off... and why?

a) Sony is separated into divisions which cannot interfere with each other's business. Sony Computer Entertainment can't boss Sony Online Entertainment. They can't demand music from Sony Music, or get a game made into a movie by forcing Sony Pictures into a deal. Each division works independently with their own funding. (A little extra, SCE has about 24 billion dollars to work with PS2. Microsoft isn't divided(which is why it's the largest corporation) and they have around 325billion. Just a note.)

b) Everquest is void of any HDD need, therefore servers no direct competition.

c) If any console maker forced developers into things they do not want to do(that doesn't hamper the image of the company), then they'll go to where ever they're accepted. Sony can't force Square into anything, likewise, Square can't force Sony.

d) Squaresoft can't just spring up and release this game. There's no grounds to lay it on. Things don't work month-to-month. Anyone that thinks Square has the game ready in boxes and are just waiting for a greenlight needs to shut up and face reality. Post E3, we'll have concrete information on Sony's new peripheral. We'll also know what they've got planned for the US territory in regards to the peripheral.

You are :dead: wrong on the whole EQOA vs FFXI crap that everyone thinks has such a major impact in their releases.

If you're gonna theorize on something, you need to take things into a TOTALLY different perspective. Think something logical that can apply to a non-monopolistic business environment where companies are not forced under the will of others. Of all console makers, Sony is the one with less rules, less royalties, and overall, best rewards for developing on their system. If you're gonna think about this... think that EQOA is being rushed to be released before FFXI, in order to gain some momentum among console MMORPG players. Why does it have to be about forcing a company into releasing their game months later... that makes no sense.

[Leonstrife]

I'll admit that I thought that Sony was the one holding FFXI back. Despite the fact that you seemed pissed off in your post (don't know why), you did make some valid points. I guess most people here want to think that it is Sony's fault because it has taken Square forever to give us any information at all, so we want to put the blame on something. The longer we wait, the more theories and rumors will pop up. Plus, I think a lot of us are console players, and we are use to getting the FF games only 6 months after it has been released in jap. FFXI is different, it takes time to set up a game like this....I guess everyone wasn't expecting it to be 8+ months later.

Now that I think about it over again after reading your post, I'm not sure what to think. Your reasoning is logical, but whatever, anything can be true. I'll just wait for some concrete information.

[Drago]

I agree and posted somewhere else that EQoA was "rushed" (not a lower quality, just a faster timetable) to beat FFXI. That I can see. The Beta's ended faster than scheduled, and I think this may have been due to the amount of work they had to do on the game, and they did not want to also maintain the servers for the 3000 of so people in it.

FFXI's release date depends on the infamous Hard Drive, and we have heard nothing official about it any where. This couldbe due to many things. Licensing in the US, development issues, contracts or anything.

I am hoping that FFXI gets released without the neccesity for the HD at first due to the game they ship us being in great shape from being in Japan for the past 6 months or so (One can always hope)

And yes, Star Wars Galaxies is coming out for PS2 (at least strongly planned..lol) I pre-ordered and paid for a copy for my brother for Christmas.

The issues with the hard drives should not be in the mix. Did you try to find an adapter in the past 3 months???....NONE.
Go-Net released a third party version for the PS2, and I saw a stack of them at the store this weekend.

Finally, this is all data for Square based on the PS2 version. None of these "hold-ups" hold any water for the PC version, except for the fact that it is a duel system (PS2 & PC) release. If Square was not waiting for Sony and the PS2 (at least the latter), they would release it on the PC faster.

[Jei]

I read SWG sites a while, they do mentioned about Ps2 but they said they haven't even made any plans about it at all. SWG Ps2 version is totally left out, no work put into it at all.

damn EQ