Summoning...Potential Ability, or Job? - Final Fantasy XI :: Dreams in Vana'diel :: Community

Tsuko · 01-12-2003, 07:35 AM

I have heard many people beg to differ on the topic of summoning. A majority of people seem to find Summoning a possible ability for all/some mages, whereas others find it to be an actual job.
Everyone is welcome to post their opinions or speculations, for this is a topic that'll plague us until the release of the Final Fantasy XI expansion...

Chipmunk777 · 01-12-2003, 07:38 AM

i've heard from several people that the ability to summon will be available to the mages. But, i think it would be cooler to have a job specifically for summoning

The AF would look cool (with that horn and the green robe

).

:spin: :spin: :spin:

Hefferin · 01-12-2003, 07:50 AM

i think it would be good for mages but a separate class would stop mages from becoming too good

dbeeo · 01-12-2003, 07:56 AM

i think it should be separate class... just look at previous ff series...

vissione · 01-12-2003, 08:06 AM

Previous FF series don't mean much in FFXI.

A Summoner class would make the classes unbalanced, unless serious penalties would be inflicted to those that change to that class. I'm talking like 2 hour refresh between summoning which practically makes you useless when you can't summon. How would a summoner level up? They would depend way too much on leeching off other people in parties and it would take forever.

Summons are things you must quest for... and a summoner seeking a new summon would face the most challenging feats just to get a new summon. Not only that, but to have a summon at your will means you'll have to defeat it.

Would a party actually go with a summoner just so he can get a new summon? I see a very tough life for summoners... especially since you'll only be able to fight, for example, ifrit once. Once you defeat him he'll become yours to summon, but you won't be able to face him again(if you're the summoner), and the other members of the party would have to change to summoner class to summon him... man this is getting confusing.

I still say that guardians will be implemented... and not a summoner class. I just have that feeling. :sweat:

Chipmunk777 · 01-12-2003, 08:09 AM

you make a good point, vissione. But, a summoner could summon a creature, and have it to control, ala FFX, or it could summon it, and it would follow you around for a certain amount of time (like a BST's pet, only you don't give it commands)

That would probably be the only way a summoner job could work.

mechabomber · 01-12-2003, 09:52 AM

it'll probably end up being a gaurdian system like in ffviii where you get certain status boosts and abilities from your gaurdian force. having a summoner class is probably not a good idea because everyone is gonna become one no matter what the penalty is. a gaurdian system would allow everyone to summon their GF every x amount of hours and it'd be kinda cool if you could raise your GF with you like in viii too. you could choose a GF when you make a character and then have it level up with you and if you wanted to change it you would have to do a certain quest or something. this way everyone gets to summon and the entire population won't have the same sub job.

cloudedlink · 01-12-2003, 11:02 AM

havent u guys read the news? summoner is a NEW job, nothing to do with blm and whm

Chipmunk777 · 01-12-2003, 11:11 AM

that hasn't been confirmed yet...

IleDeusMorpheus · 01-12-2003, 11:16 AM

Whoa, whoa, whoa there, cloudedlink. If you're referring to that translation of the article on Girade no Genei from RPGFan, then be advised that that was a stupid translation error. Summoner isn't yet confirmed, it could still be the guardian system. Believe me, with my fervent interest in the addition of a Dragoon class, I'll be among the first to know ... I hope ...

As far as summons go ... I don't see why they have do be all that overpowered. Consider FF5. Where I am right now in the game (Pyramid in world 3), I can do a whole heck of a lot more damage with Fire3 than with Ifrit. Like, 1000's compared to 200. The only really damaging summon is Titan, but he's waaaay to MP-intensive to be used much. I think summoner is quite viable as a class, provided that their summons are not much more powerful than black magic. I think the best system for summoning might be a hybrid between FF5 and 6 ... MP-intensive summons once per battle, but you can have more than one choice for a summon.

Anyway, I think it could work.:sweat:

Sirus · 01-12-2003, 11:22 AM

If they did make a summoning class, they would probably make it like the white mages, where they depend mostly on party members. They may be able to use daggers or swords or staffs or something. I am also waiting to see if they add a dragoon class, spears and lances rock.

IleDeusMorpheus · 01-12-2003, 11:23 AM

Sigh ... I just don't wanna get my hopes up. I've heard stuff like that on the new job classes many times before, and so far every time it's turned out false. I don't mean to say I don't trust you or your source ... and it definitely doesn't burst my bubble. The point is that I don't want a bubble to burst ... :confused: that sounded wierd ... :sweat:

And don't forget Geomancer!

cloudedlink · 01-12-2003, 11:24 AM

Where did you hear geomancer? Thats just like saying oracles, squires, mimes, and dancers are gonna be on the expansion.

Ohh I know what your thinking when I said dancer, and No, poles wont summon out of the ground.

yea no offence taken:spin: :spin:

IleDeusMorpheus · 01-12-2003, 11:28 AM

When the original screenshots from Girade no Genei were released, there was a photo of six people in AF armor that everybody thought showed the new classes. Geomancer was supposedly one of them.

And who says oracles, mimics, dancers, calculators, vikings, warlocks, sorcerers, shamans, etc. can't be added in the future? :sweat:

dbeeo · 01-12-2003, 11:36 AM

hope that all FFT and previos FF series' job will come out in the expansion.