Would this be a good graphic card ?!?!

[Da3 LyNx]

That's still way out of my price range, oh well guess I'll get one when the price drops.

[Toke]

I'm not a rabid fanboy and there's nothing wrong with the card. Just because it's not nVidia doesn't mean it sucks. Your so called "driver" and "compatibility" issues don't mean anything with FFXI. Will he be playing some crappy game made special for nVidia? No. He's gonna play FFXI. I don't think people play anything but FPS and MMORPGs on their PCs and ATi's cards work with every single one. Unreal Tournament works... that's pretty new. Warcraft 3 works. Lets see.. Battlefield 1942 works. Hey it's got DirectX 9 support.. wee.. he can even play DirectX 9 games.

Will he be playing some crappy game made special for nvidia? No, he will be playing a very good game (FFXI) and yes, it was made special for Nvidia users. Don't know if you know or not, but Square and Nvidia did work together on some graphics for FFXI, in which Geforce4 Ti4600 users will get more effects in graphics and what not.

I don't think people play anything but FPS and MMORPGs on their PCs and ATi's cards work with every single one.

They do, but do they give the best quality and effects in all PC games? No. Games that use Cg, will only play best on Nvidia cards. Can your ATI play the demo of "Gun Metal" in all its visual glory's? No. Gun Metal was made using Cg, which ATI do not support.

Cg, soon to be the standard set in game making compiling techniques.. the latest standard, Cg will allow game makers to make the quickest shit happen in terms of game coding, and it will allow Nvidia to become the standard in terms of graphics boards. Soon enough game makers (of which 85% have already signed the nvidia contract to make the games of the future within Cg) will use Cg as the set in stone standard of game making. And you can bet your bottom dollar, Nvidia is not about to let Cg be compatable with ATI.

Which leads me to the end, ATI is hanging in there now, because they managed to get their heads out there, and will continue to shoot boards out that only top Nvidia, for the sure purpose of trying to claim their spot in the market. But when Cg becomes standard (which isn't long), ATI wont have a market left to sell too, and every ATI owner will be bitching because they can't play the good games on their cards.

This is why Linux will never win the home operating system battles, because microsoft was the first to create the standard and always will be, linux would have been better off just remaning within the server level, and continue upon that level. As far as ATI vs. Nvidia, I give it 2 years, and a standard will be in place. Until then both will fight and top one another until then.

For more about what Cg is:http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=cg

Download "Gun Metal Demo" the first game to use Cg. (Looks very nice on Nvidia cards only): http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=game_gunmetal

[Tifa XI]

I bought a Geforce 4 Ti4200 64mb 4x AGP for $149.

I can overclock it to just as fast as the Ti4600 and I'm getting the Geforce FX in Feburary anyway.^_^

[Staccato]

Originally posted by Tifa XI
I bought a Geforce 4 Ti4200 64mb 4x AGP for $149.

I can overclock it to just as fast as the Ti4600 and I'm getting the Geforce FX in Feburary anyway.^_^

Ooo, nice... where do I learn how to do that?

[ted]

http://www.3dchipset.com/utilities/n...cking/coolbits

Tifa, how'd you manage to get the memory clock to 650MHz?

[Staccato]

Thanks Ted!

[One step closer in my journey toward l33t-dom ]

[ted]

I suggest you search for a review of your card, check how much it can be overclocked. About 5 MHz below what the reviewer could get the core clock to and 10MHz below what they could get the memory clock to usually works.

[Elite]

Your gonna burn your card out if you try to put it to 650mhz, unless you got some coolers and a good ti 4200 card. Still though it's overkill for the card no matter what.

[ted]

You don't need much cooling for overclocking the memory, but I'd put heatsinks on the memory chips just in case. The real problem is if the Ti4200's memory can actually reach 650MHz and still function properly, and I doubt the standard Samsung modules can.