03-20-2003, 03:02 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 46 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 221 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 221 Donate | i aint er whatever, but i aint, im gonna buy it anyway as soon as its out in english and, when i lpay it i have to pay the $10 a month which is far too much altho worth it for this.
and what do u think u importers are doing its not exactly legit | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-20-2003, 07:17 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Waka Laka~:Mod: Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 514 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,977 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,977 Donate | That still doesnt excuse that you pirated an $80 piece of software. This kind of non-legit activity hurts the industry that I work in. I am a software developer and am directly affected by software piracy. This is the reason I freaked out when you said you downloaded it. I appologize, but for every peice of software pirated, other software prices must go up to cover loss. Yes, you may not see a large increase, but have you noticed that 10yrs ago software was less then $30 for a fun game? Now adays software is upwards to $65 and slowly rising mainly because of software piracy. Yes alot of the price increase is also to cover production costs and to make profit for the destributer, but most is because of non-profitablity per piracy.
The other thing is that Square just started to break even, last month I believe, and start moving in the direction of profit by subscribers. Since the launch back in November, Square has been loosing money on this product. In the gaming industry, it is known that any and all Massively Multiplayer software packages are a lossy investment because of software, development and server costs. Also, $10 is a minimum payment for a MMORPG, as most MMORPGs are at $12 a month. At this ammount Square needed 200,000 subscribers before it would make profit on this product. At $12 a month, they would have needed much less, but they decided to alleviate some of the client costs to generate more sales. Risky but it payed off for them in the end as they are now in profit. We, the import community, are part of that profit and they are well aware of this. There is no way they would not be aware of our presence and the monitary gain that we represent to them. If they wanted to make sure there was no way an importer could play, they could easily have banned our range of IP addresses for the US, UK, AU, or where ever we are connecting from. Unfortunatly this would also mean that they would have not been within thier profit margin for probably two to three more months and maybe would have had to cancel the FFXI project. They understand this and I am glad that they are still moving forward with non-regional releases of this software. They could easily keep the game in japan and make enough profit to be worthwhile. While importing this software is not legit by the fact that they desire the software to be used in japan only, we are not directly harming Square as they are making profit from us.  ~No song is good without... Oh, cake, Yum!!~
OSAKA | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-20-2003, 08:37 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 46 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 221 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 221 Donate | yea i do agree with u its just i dunno importing is soo much effort its not that i dont want to spend the money but i dont wanna buy it twice ynow.
i wish theyd hurry and release it here tho its like a year late | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-20-2003, 04:39 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 460 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 607 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 607 Donate | Re: i aint | Quote: | Originally posted by heners
and what do u think u importers are doing its not exactly legit | I am still trying to figure out exactly what you said there, cuz i am not exactly sure it qualifies as english... but WHAT exactly do you mean its not exactly legal??:confused:
I bought the game legaly, through a store that sells the game, and am paying the monthly fee with my hard earned money, not someone elses stolen credit card.
So i fail to see HOW what i am doing is "not exactly legal"
Care to enlighten the rest of us? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-20-2003, 04:41 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 46 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 221 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 221 Donate | yea i dunno, i mean guess it is strickly legal, sorry for any hurt casued by myself, i have now bought the game myself and look forward to seeing you online.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-20-2003, 05:55 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 438 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 779 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 779 Donate | Osaka, although you have MANY MANY very good points is ALL your arguments, this is just one argument that ur BEING GAY in. Comon, why u wastein ur breath on him if you know 110% that he ISNT gonna use anyway due to needing to pay 10$ a month, and 2 CD-Keys, also, you cant even start to imagine how many things i have pirated, and all i have to say is FU*K microsoft, that guy's wipin his ass with 100$$ bills, and he still wants more?? FU*K him.... And im also for what heners said, im gonna wait for the NA version, but the thing that importing is ILLEGAL, you fu*ked up this time henners, although ur 1st argument was a litle bit better. All im saying is dont waste ur breath on things that arent harming anyone, and also pirating is still a good way of life . (im not flaming anyone, just giving you all my 2 cents)  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-20-2003, 07:21 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Ping0! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 206 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 754 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 754 Donate | well lets see here.. I bought ffxi from a site not from the black market lol  Also im paying the monthly fee with my OWN money not someone elses credit card. That is completely legal there is nothing illegal about importing this game.  Findecano is inactive
He may return if things change .....
but anywho i still got my ffxi friends *pulls out list of 1000000000 people* | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-24-2003, 10:11 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 905 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 565 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 565 Donate | are you like.... 8?  MiyamotoMusashi
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Zilart Missions completed | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-24-2003, 11:57 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 371 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,012 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,012 Donate | Heners, come on man, stop making urself look like an idiot and sotp pissing people off. I am closing this good for nothing thread.
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