11-21-2003, 03:06 PM | #76 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 833 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 18 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,445 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,445 Donate | all i have to use right now is my laptop, best comp in house
1.8ghz p4m | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-23-2003, 05:46 AM | #77 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 13 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 171 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 171 Donate | Ok here is a picture of the playonline registry. i want to make the game run the reslution in 1600*1200 cause thats what my monirot can support. which vaules do i change and what background resolution should have?
i have a GF 4 Ti4800SE btw  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-24-2003, 01:26 AM | #78 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 43 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 43 Donate | ...so 003 and 004 control resolution, which ones control the AA and AF?? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-25-2003, 08:44 PM | #79 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 60 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 287 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 287 Donate | im quite comp nubish....can somebody help me what i can do to make my game look smoother/better??? i have a p4 2.6ghz...1024ddr ram....ati9800 128mb...thanks | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-26-2003, 02:09 PM | #80 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 833 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 18 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,445 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,445 Donate | go to your start menu
Programs>Playonline>Final Fantasy XI>FFXI config
then read in your manual and max out everything. It will look great  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-26-2003, 03:57 PM | #81 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 68 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 186 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 186 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Rychiar Stay away from nvidia... Heh, nah thats just my opinion | the main reason i prefer nvidia over radeon is the drivers. even though some of the radeon cards may have more bulk power or whatever you may call it, the drivers for nvidia make up for that i spades. a while ago i saw a benchmark for both a radeon and an nvidia card, both in comparible price ranges, similar specs(it was a while ago, don't remember exact cards), and the nvidia card performed in leaps and bounds around the similar radeon card, simply because of the drivers.
...but still, it's all a question of preferance really, just depends on what you're going for  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-26-2003, 05:53 PM | #82 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 66 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 21 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 21 Donate | | Quote: | | the main reason i prefer nvidia over radeon is the drivers. even though some of the radeon cards may have more bulk power or whatever you may call it, the drivers for nvidia make up for that i spades. a while ago i saw a benchmark for both a radeon and an nvidia card, both in comparible price ranges, similar specs(it was a while ago, don't remember exact cards), and the nvidia card performed in leaps and bounds around the similar radeon card, simply because of the drivers. | Be very wary of some of the benchmarks. Futuremark recently discovered that Nvidia had purposely tinkered with their drivers to get a better benchmark score for 3DMark2003. It turns out that the cards would play about the same as the same priced Radeon cards. Futuremark told Nvidia that they could not publish their results until they came clean, which they finally did.
Truth is, ATI has gotten much better about drivers, and Nvidia is feeling the heat. Buy which ever card you prefer, but don't trust all the benchmarks. The vendors lie, and Nvidia got caugh. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-27-2003, 08:05 PM | #83 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 508 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 341 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 341 Donate | | Quote: | | Truth is, ATI has gotten much better about drivers, and Nvidia is feeling the heat. Buy which ever card you prefer, but don't trust all the benchmarks. The vendors lie, and Nvidia got caugh. | This is true - however, don't think for a second that ATI is perfect. They were also caught cheating on the 3DMark2003 benchmark by Futuremark. This happened when the benchmark was first released. ATI fired the employee who wrote the drivers and then re-issued the drivers. Of course, that only happened after they were discovered to have cheated on the benchmark.
In summary, just about every graphics board manufaturer is going to lie to get ahead these days. Especially with competition so very close (in sales).
Angler | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-28-2003, 06:12 PM | #84 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 352 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14x in 13 Posts Gil: 2,550 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,550 Donate | I remember that scam with 3DMark 2003. Anyway, I think it's funny discussing drivers, as the newest NVIDIA drivers make FFXI unplayable via lovely fields of gray textures instead of rendering the game world.
I was once an NVIDIA fan, but after seeing the huge improvements ATI has done with their drivers (and NVIDIA getting sloppy with theirs), I'm now a happy ATI fan ^_^.
FFXI with a 9700 Pro rawks at 2048x2048 back buffer if you've got the CPU and RAM bandwidth to help. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-29-2003, 08:53 AM | #85 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 140 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 391 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 391 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Angler
This is true - however, don't think for a second that ATI is perfect. They were also caught cheating on the 3DMark2003 benchmark by Futuremark. This happened when the benchmark was first released. ATI fired the employee who wrote the drivers and then re-issued the drivers. Of course, that only happened after they were discovered to have cheated on the benchmark. | And Nvidia sued FutureMark (or threatened to) saying that they had better shit their mouth or Nvidia would litigation-kill them.
There's a BIG difference between:
ATI: "Oops, our drivers do cheat a bit, 8%, that was put in by an unethical programmer who has been sacked, here is an updated version of our drivers that fixes it."
and
Nvidia: "Getting 25% better FPS in a benchmark (which everyone uses to test how good cards are) when we can detect the benchmark and skew it's results isn't cheating, it's optimization, and if you call it cheating again, we'll come after you with a nerf bat of doom."
And that's why Nvidia won't get another dime of my money, ever. Didn't Nvidia get caught cheating on the FF11 Benchmark2 as well? I remember about 2 weeks after the Bench was released, Nvidia released some new drivers that increased the score on the benchmark by like 40%. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-03-2003, 01:34 PM | #86 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 26 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 121 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 121 Donate | let me give my 2 cents.
Application Specific Tweaking is not a bad thing, but for APPLICATION BENCHMARKING it is cheating. BUT
for the FFXI Benchmark2 it is not cheating. Things like 3dmark are designed to test cards raw ability to render. Games are not designed that way they are designed to be played. If a company makes drivers that give 25% boost in certain games that is great, you don't need to worry about your card giving poor performence then. Get my drift? Let's take Doom III in to consideration they have seperate rendering loops for nivida and ati cards, is the application cheating in this case? I think not. J.Carmack (graphic engine programmer for Id software) is crazy enough to make seperate rendering loops for these cards because he wants them to perform better, along with optimized ("tweaked") drivers todays card will be able to run games like doom3 and others (HL2 but not sure about that engine).
The final breakdown, on benchmarking apps like 3dmark (NOT FFXI Benchmark 2), application tweaking is bad. For games it is a good thing, in fact i encourage it. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-04-2003, 12:40 AM | #87 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 25 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 25 Donate | Changed the setting in registry to 1600x1600 and i can see a world of difference on my setup.
Thanks! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-04-2003, 10:37 AM | #88 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 20 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 24 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by taintedvision let me give my 2 cents.
Application Specific Tweaking is not a bad thing, but for APPLICATION BENCHMARKING it is cheating. BUT
for the FFXI Benchmark2 it is not cheating. Things like 3dmark are designed to test cards raw ability to render. Games are not designed that way they are designed to be played. If a company makes drivers that give 25% boost in certain games that is great, you don't need to worry about your card giving poor performence then. Get my drift? Let's take Doom III in to consideration they have seperate rendering loops for nivida and ati cards, is the application cheating in this case? I think not. J.Carmack (graphic engine programmer for Id software) is crazy enough to make seperate rendering loops for these cards because he wants them to perform better, along with optimized ("tweaked") drivers todays card will be able to run games like doom3 and others (HL2 but not sure about that engine).
The final breakdown, on benchmarking apps like 3dmark (NOT FFXI Benchmark 2), application tweaking is bad. For games it is a good thing, in fact i encourage it. | This guy deserves a cookie.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-07-2003, 01:38 AM | #89 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 10 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 127 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 127 Donate | Umm...do you think that a GeForce4 MX typed graphic card(I think it's either a 4200 or a 4400), can handle it...i'm not good at hardware ^^  -Kakashi Hatake-
Mission right now:
"Finish Come Come Paradise." ^^
Actual In-Game Missions/Quests:
[Current Completion Pct: 0.0% - 100%]
Duel me at the a server...if you can find me... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-07-2003, 09:47 PM | #90 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 87 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,438 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,438 Donate | I think Geforce4Mx would not be able to handle the third highest resolution (1024x1024x) unless if you have a P4 3.4ghz with 1gig of ram, etc. And even then I'm not sure. But you are welcome to try. =0) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:28 PM. | | |