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Old 11-21-2003, 04:06 PM   #76
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Old 11-23-2003, 06:46 AM   #77
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Ok here is a picture of the playonline registry. i want to make the game run the reslution in 1600*1200 cause thats what my monirot can support. which vaules do i change and what background resolution should have?
i have a GF 4 Ti4800SE btw

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...so 003 and 004 control resolution, which ones control the AA and AF??
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Old 11-25-2003, 09:44 PM   #79
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im quite comp nubish....can somebody help me what i can do to make my game look smoother/better??? i have a p4 2.6ghz...1024ddr ram....ati9800 128mb...thanks
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Old 11-26-2003, 03:09 PM   #80
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Programs>Playonline>Final Fantasy XI>FFXI config


then read in your manual and max out everything. It will look great
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Originally posted by Rychiar
Stay away from nvidia... Heh, nah thats just my opinion
the main reason i prefer nvidia over radeon is the drivers. even though some of the radeon cards may have more bulk power or whatever you may call it, the drivers for nvidia make up for that i spades. a while ago i saw a benchmark for both a radeon and an nvidia card, both in comparible price ranges, similar specs(it was a while ago, don't remember exact cards), and the nvidia card performed in leaps and bounds around the similar radeon card, simply because of the drivers.

...but still, it's all a question of preferance really, just depends on what you're going for
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the main reason i prefer nvidia over radeon is the drivers. even though some of the radeon cards may have more bulk power or whatever you may call it, the drivers for nvidia make up for that i spades. a while ago i saw a benchmark for both a radeon and an nvidia card, both in comparible price ranges, similar specs(it was a while ago, don't remember exact cards), and the nvidia card performed in leaps and bounds around the similar radeon card, simply because of the drivers.
Be very wary of some of the benchmarks. Futuremark recently discovered that Nvidia had purposely tinkered with their drivers to get a better benchmark score for 3DMark2003. It turns out that the cards would play about the same as the same priced Radeon cards. Futuremark told Nvidia that they could not publish their results until they came clean, which they finally did.

Truth is, ATI has gotten much better about drivers, and Nvidia is feeling the heat. Buy which ever card you prefer, but don't trust all the benchmarks. The vendors lie, and Nvidia got caugh.
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:05 PM   #83
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Truth is, ATI has gotten much better about drivers, and Nvidia is feeling the heat. Buy which ever card you prefer, but don't trust all the benchmarks. The vendors lie, and Nvidia got caugh.
This is true - however, don't think for a second that ATI is perfect. They were also caught cheating on the 3DMark2003 benchmark by Futuremark. This happened when the benchmark was first released. ATI fired the employee who wrote the drivers and then re-issued the drivers. Of course, that only happened after they were discovered to have cheated on the benchmark.

In summary, just about every graphics board manufaturer is going to lie to get ahead these days. Especially with competition so very close (in sales).
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I remember that scam with 3DMark 2003. Anyway, I think it's funny discussing drivers, as the newest NVIDIA drivers make FFXI unplayable via lovely fields of gray textures instead of rendering the game world.

I was once an NVIDIA fan, but after seeing the huge improvements ATI has done with their drivers (and NVIDIA getting sloppy with theirs), I'm now a happy ATI fan ^_^.
FFXI with a 9700 Pro rawks at 2048x2048 back buffer if you've got the CPU and RAM bandwidth to help.
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This is true - however, don't think for a second that ATI is perfect. They were also caught cheating on the 3DMark2003 benchmark by Futuremark. This happened when the benchmark was first released. ATI fired the employee who wrote the drivers and then re-issued the drivers. Of course, that only happened after they were discovered to have cheated on the benchmark.
And Nvidia sued FutureMark (or threatened to) saying that they had better shit their mouth or Nvidia would litigation-kill them.

There's a BIG difference between:

ATI: "Oops, our drivers do cheat a bit, 8%, that was put in by an unethical programmer who has been sacked, here is an updated version of our drivers that fixes it."

and

Nvidia: "Getting 25% better FPS in a benchmark (which everyone uses to test how good cards are) when we can detect the benchmark and skew it's results isn't cheating, it's optimization, and if you call it cheating again, we'll come after you with a nerf bat of doom."


And that's why Nvidia won't get another dime of my money, ever. Didn't Nvidia get caught cheating on the FF11 Benchmark2 as well? I remember about 2 weeks after the Bench was released, Nvidia released some new drivers that increased the score on the benchmark by like 40%.
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let me give my 2 cents.

Application Specific Tweaking is not a bad thing, but for APPLICATION BENCHMARKING it is cheating. BUT
for the FFXI Benchmark2 it is not cheating. Things like 3dmark are designed to test cards raw ability to render. Games are not designed that way they are designed to be played. If a company makes drivers that give 25% boost in certain games that is great, you don't need to worry about your card giving poor performence then. Get my drift? Let's take Doom III in to consideration they have seperate rendering loops for nivida and ati cards, is the application cheating in this case? I think not. J.Carmack (graphic engine programmer for Id software) is crazy enough to make seperate rendering loops for these cards because he wants them to perform better, along with optimized ("tweaked") drivers todays card will be able to run games like doom3 and others (HL2 but not sure about that engine).

The final breakdown, on benchmarking apps like 3dmark (NOT FFXI Benchmark 2), application tweaking is bad. For games it is a good thing, in fact i encourage it.
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Changed the setting in registry to 1600x1600 and i can see a world of difference on my setup.
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let me give my 2 cents.

Application Specific Tweaking is not a bad thing, but for APPLICATION BENCHMARKING it is cheating. BUT
for the FFXI Benchmark2 it is not cheating. Things like 3dmark are designed to test cards raw ability to render. Games are not designed that way they are designed to be played. If a company makes drivers that give 25% boost in certain games that is great, you don't need to worry about your card giving poor performence then. Get my drift? Let's take Doom III in to consideration they have seperate rendering loops for nivida and ati cards, is the application cheating in this case? I think not. J.Carmack (graphic engine programmer for Id software) is crazy enough to make seperate rendering loops for these cards because he wants them to perform better, along with optimized ("tweaked") drivers todays card will be able to run games like doom3 and others (HL2 but not sure about that engine).

The final breakdown, on benchmarking apps like 3dmark (NOT FFXI Benchmark 2), application tweaking is bad. For games it is a good thing, in fact i encourage it.
This guy deserves a cookie.
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Umm...do you think that a GeForce4 MX typed graphic card(I think it's either a 4200 or a 4400), can handle it...i'm not good at hardware ^^
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I think Geforce4Mx would not be able to handle the third highest resolution (1024x1024x) unless if you have a P4 3.4ghz with 1gig of ram, etc. And even then I'm not sure. But you are welcome to try. =0)
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