[Selphiie The Enchantress]

3 Bards, 6 Black Mages, and i think 3 Red Mages, not including Starfox, Starfox doesn't usually come to Dynamis as RDM, Mostly SAM/DNC (ftw), i think he just wanted to play with his new Morrigan's robe lol.

[IfritnoItazura]

You use BLMs as crowd controllers? My Dynamis LS uses them as statue nukers when they are alive, and stepping stones when they are dead--about 50/50, I'd say.

[Selphiie The Enchantress]

Yeahhh my Dynamis LS does stuff I even question sometimes lol...but hey it works, and we are really really successful. I know Linkshells that can't even get past the Auction house with 40+ some people, we barely have a full alliance sometimes and we clean the zone of mobs lol. Probably because the LS has the best geared people on the freaking server, I don't think i've seen a Warrior without a Adaberk/Ridill lol. DRGs showing up in Askar/Homan, its crazy.

Our Main Puller is a WHM

Our Backup Puller is a RDM

Our Main Tank is a WAR

Our BACKUP Tank is a PLD

Yeah crazy stuff, but fun none the less, i dont even notice Statues sometimes the BLMs just light them up so fast, they are like freaking machines lol.

But yeah back to my OP, i was just showing that RDM/NIN can work, with the right gear, oh yeah they DEFINITLY won't be parsing up to the higher end DDs and yes Icemage they won't be as effective as they would be if they sat in the back with enfeebling/INT/whatever mage gear (im not gonna pretend to know what back line redmage gear is like lol).

But the point really is they CAN, but at the same time if you choose to, please do it right, meaning, player skill, the right gear,etc.

A prime example was a few weeks ago in my last Greater Colibri merit party the RDM came /nin with an o-hat, and a scorpion harness, and then like MP rings and gear that just didn't fit RDM/NIN, all he did was en-spell and whack at the mob, never had a refresh cycle, (there was me as BRD/RDM and a BLU/NIN and himself), and i don't even remember him using haste at all except for himself. He didn't even have /nin fully leveled, it was 75RDM/30NIN, so all he had was Utsusemi:Ichi, so you know he just subbed /ninja for "Dual wield onry" It was embaressing.

Thats my view on RDM/NIN melee: if you can do it right, if you have the gear, if you can still do your job, then by all means, but if you don't meet any of those Criteria and you think the only melee gear you should wear is the Scorpion harness then you just need to grab that /blm back out and sit wayyyyyyyyyyy in the back where you will remember to haste people

[WishMaster3K]

I have to come back to this thread...