[Ellipses]

As others have said, there's a difference between train farming vs. other farmers and train farming vs. people trying to exp. I personally still find it annoying even vs. other farmers, but not so much so that I'm going to, like, react in any way.

The only thing that gets a reaction is when someone gets all huffy about another farmer picking mobs off "their" train.

[Taskmage]

Originally Posted by Aelathir

I can't think of many occasions where being nice has blown up in my face.

I've acquired a pet n00b or two, gotten strung around by inconsiderate people wanting teles, stayed against better judgement in really lame parties, gotten screwed out of small loans, etc. That's for being nice. For being simply considerate I've never gotten significant negative backlash.

[Murphie]

Yeah, I don't make a big deal of it in game, but I do make a mental note of the behavior. And I'm right there with Ellipses with the whole "Don't pick off my train" idiocy.

[Lambeaus]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to piss people off, nor do I want to steal mobs from people grinding.

I've had the experience of trying to find a mob, and having a hell of a time. I started in the 360 beta, and the whole population was farming in the extreme low level areas. It was BAD.

Still, I was only linking crawlers, and there was way more mobs to kill. At the moment the only reason is I was short on gil. However I've taken up fishing and and going for carp to roast and sell. Much quicker money maker.

If I see people in the area, I definitely won't be doing it. I know there weren't people around that night.

[Taskmage]

It's fun, too. I probably still have some old screenshots laying around of me vs an unreasonably large phalanx of bees or crawlers or what have you that made me feel like a badass at the time.

If you're patient, fishing is probably better money. The drop rate on those silk threads is terrible. Unless something's screwed up about your server economy, don't roast the carp though. A wise man once said "Roasting carp makes baby lu shang cry." Putting it through that crystal should take most of the value out of the item.

[Avoklex]

I hate to play devil's advocate, but there is not many places he can go to farm, unless he has some unsaid high level job we don't see. So, if he is farming those things, which is a necessity when your making your first go through for any job to level 75, hell even your 2nd or 3rd job.

It may suck, but if needs the money, which silk threads are notoriuos for doing (giving money that is), then he has every right to train them to make better use of his time, as opposed to killing them individually.

I agree though, doing something like that in the Dunes is kinda rude since it is a well known XP spot across any server. But, at least on my server, there is not many people who XP in Bubu. If it became a heavily XP'd type area like the dunes, then it would cause some problem in my eyes, kinda like the Dunes training.

I do, however, see the points of view from other people, and at the same respect them immensely. I am just offering my point of view here, so please don't hate me, too much ^^

[Lambeaus]

what is meant by 'Dunes Training'?

[Taskmage]

Originally Posted by Lambeaus

also, how do they put the thumbnail on the topic page????

Just noticed this. I think the forum will do that only in this forum if you have an image attached to the post. Linking from off-site doesn't count.

Double Post Edited:

Originally Posted by Lambeaus

what is meant by 'Dunes Training'?

Doing what you were doing with crawlers, only using lizards in the dunes, which people exp off of.

[Omni]

Originally Posted by Aelathir

I can't think of many occasions where being nice has blown up in my face.

Then I'll want to live where you live and play where you play. Send me a PM.

I've been so considerate and nice as a bst early on and almost every time its came back to bite me in my little taru ass.

I've tanked so many mobs for people just because they needed certain things or couldnt find anyone else to do it or I'm the only one that can do it or etc etc. when it comes time for a small favor on my side (small as in, I need a few ringers to just heal me while i essentially solo something) , all I get are excuses or no replies.

That's where I get being nice isnt what its cracked up to be. However, dont get me wrong. I dont go out of my way to be an asshole, nor do I refuse kindness when someone shows it to me. I'm mainly speaking of your random adventurer encounters you have throughout the game. However, nowadays in the game, I'm the last one take that first step.

[Lambeaus]

LOL! This was meant to be a picture thread! I had no idea, as I've never really experienced people stealing mobs I was XPing on.

Believe me, I'm not a bad person!!!

Glad I heard this tho, I'll know next time

[Murphie]

Originally Posted by Omni-Ragnarok

Then I'll want to live where you live and play where you play. Send me a PM.

I've been so considerate and nice as a bst early on and almost every time its came back to bite me in my little taru ass.

I've tanked so many mobs for people just because they needed certain things or couldnt find anyone else to do it or I'm the only one that can do it or etc etc. when it comes time for a small favor on my side, all I get are excuses or no replies.

That's where I get being nice isnt what its cracked up to be. However, dont get me wrong. I dont go out of my way to be an asshole, nor do I refuse kindness when someone shows it to me. I'm mainly speaking of your random adventurer encounters you have throughout the game. However, nowadays in the game, I'm the last one take that first step.

I play on the Bahamut server. It's awesome.

I'm just nice and/or considerate to people without any expectation of something in return. Not that I'm claiming you expect it, but I've just found that not expecting anything like that goes a long way towards keeping me from feeling like a doormat.

Plus, I'm lucky in that my LS practially falls over itself to help with stuff (we all do, so it's cyclical), which may have a lot to do with my feelings on the subject.

[Avoklex]

Omni, I feel your pain bro. I see that happen all the time to people I know in game. They are the most helpful people I could think of, and when they need help, it's like Emiril steps in and BAM!. Where the fark did people go off too? So many afk starts popping up in chats it is sickening.

That is a nice LS to have Aelathir, wish more deserving people could be a part of something like that.

[Omni]

World shift? I'd be the first one to go.

You know, when I do something for someone, I really dont expect anything back in return. Well, that's a lie, I expect just a smidge of appreciation. That's all.

It's just sad when you ask your LS for help, which again, isnt really help at all when you do most of the work, and out of 10-15 people in the LS, it all of a sudden turns dead quiet.

Anyhow, sorry. Off topic/Hijack now.

If I can remember when I get home. I have a few SS of me training dhamels in bubu and killing them all with cyclone :D that was by far the cheapest and easiest level in leathercraft for me

[Avoklex]

Oh snap, I never even though of that. I am almost to the point of that stage of Leathercraft, thanks for the option, hehe.

[Murphie]

Well, to be fair, although my LS is pretty helpful (and I really did just kind of luck into that), I still don't have any friends to do things with. Once upon a time, I had a few close in game friends that I knew had my back when I needed things done, and I always had theirs in return. I've never partied with any of my LS for exp, and we don't really chat much. So, I'm lonely, but hey! I have no trouble getting things accomplished.

I'm not sure which I prefer, really. :/

Anyway, enough off-topicness from me.