Darwin award goes too. . . .

[Ivadell]

ok let me set this up. One of our LS members is a 100 Bone crafter, and does all the LS Scorp harnesses. He usually signs them for us. Well our LS guy caught wind that the RMT has one of his signed harnesses. Hilarity insues. . . .





working the details out. . .



can it be. . .



oh my those mithra sure are tricky. ><



now I know this seems alittle extreme, but trust me i think i speak for everyone on the Sylph server when i say that these guys are jerks and deserve more than just being robbed.

[Rico]

That was low. I don't care who's playing. You honsetly don't do crap like that... :mad: Dude robbed a persons Scrop harness how can be mean when he polietly asked for scrop harness +1. This thread states not that gil sellers are mean. It's more like people can be assholes. The idiot is only scouping down to the gil sellers level.

[kazuri]

Yea, no offense but that was low. Although they're breaking the rules and may deserve it, you still don't do stuff like that. Just because others don't show respect and fair play doesn't mean you should too.

[PsychoMatrix]

You're pathetic. Even if he's a gil seller, that doesn't mean he deserves to get his things stolen.

I'm not even worried about gil sellers anymore. I work around them. But it's people like you that make this game crap. What are you, 10, 12 years old? Do you not know right from wrong? .... And here you are... Pretty much calling him trash....

(PS: If this seemed offensive, that's because it's supposed to be)

[Darkwarrior]

I don't know about other servers, but in Ragnarok RMT steal and camp H/NMs and they're not really "legit players" and imo they deserve it, this is just a small payback...:spin:

[Ivadell]

Pyscho I really don't think you have a fuckin clue about what you are saying. "You work around them." That must mean you sit in Jeuno randoming other noobs. Every try to work around Phantom Worm while these jerk-offs drag all of Kuftal right on top of you? Or trying to kill certain beastman gods and have them train other l inking mobs over to you, Or maybe you've worked around them stealing Fafnir when it goes yellow for a split second. Or maybe when they try and steal Kirin? Of course who am I kidding everything can be resolved with just alittle bit of respect. I love it how everyone bitches about these guys when they are jacking your shit, but god forbid we the legit players take matters into our own hands. Everyone else then becomes Lord Byron acting proper and respectful. To be honest if i was that guy I would have desynth'd the damn thing right in front of him, slapped him and then warpped. If you guys wanna flame this thread go ahead, but please come with something more credible than "I work around them" , cause thats just fuckin lame. pussies.

[Elyon]

Iva's right, Chest & Co. are royal douchebags. I can't believe you feel sympathy for them. Seriously, anyone stupid enough to give away their Scorp like that deserves to have it stolen. It's not like Chest missed his harness anyways, he had another one by 10PM.
Think about it from the crafter's perspective. What would you do if you found one of your harnesses on a gilseller? How's a crafter supposed to make a name for himself if people start to think he's crafting for the RMT?

[Lovy]

Once I had an issue: one guy had stolen my mob, he said "sry, lol". It was the only monster in that area I needed, but that guy was just killing everything. And I had to go back to city. If it was possible to duel in FFXI, I'd do it immediately, was very angry.
Next time I saw him just not far from Windurst gates, he was lvling his new job. I was acting as BLM/RDM and had lots of Orange Juice. So I ran in front of him and was killing everything I saw in one cast of spell. He couldn't pick up any mob, so he was in despair and picked one tough Crawler. He was dying on my eyes, I was standing and watching. I could heal him, but didn't; so he died. Of course he didn't loose much at his low lv, but anyway I felt no good myself. Felt like if I lowered myself down to his lv. This feeling means a lot. Even if somebody's not very good, it doesn't mean you should be the same, otherwise everyone will be pure shi@.

After being tricked that guy can do the same to somebody to revenge and so on. I've seen how this works.

[Rakhir]

Of course they deserve some of it. Its like kicking the neighborhood bully in the nuts after they take your lunch money. Its not going to cripple them for life, but they know you don't like getting picked on. They've done so much crap to our server that we need pay back in some form or another.

[Jeryhn]

To the OP: You, sir, are a dumbass.

What makes you think these people won't follow you everywhere you go and MPK the hell out of you (or your party) now, each and every chance they get?

[Seldzar]

Because they have to spend their time gil farming.

[Macht]

I agree that if you can't get the GMs to handle your situation to improve the game then we as the players should try to "take matters into our own hands". However there are 1,001 different ways you can do that some of them are well thought out and promote positive responses. Some are out of blind rage or straight out stupidity that only promotes negative results and in turn causes more negative results.

There is so many usable methods in the game to make an opposing stand to an action without making a violent act to the ones doing something wrong.

Anyone ever thought of starting a LS to setup actions against the players that can be proven as doing something wrong? You don't have to kill them, you don't have to steal actual items from them, all you have to is simply make the area less profitable for them or assist to remove the chances for these players to steal a monster.

Not that hard if a group has already beaten you to the claim in a fair match for the HNM, then be willing to sacrifice some time making sure that the party which got the HNM can focus just on it so that they can't loose claim on it for even a second.

Even if they do lose claim ever attempt to claim to just give back to them to help reduce the possibility of some gilseller group causing problems?

How about the LS setup focusing on what's obviously already known areas of problems with mass trains and working to counter them?

You can't hope for change without some sacrifice, if you yourself is unwilling to put the effort then why expect others to put the same effort?

Sadly a good majority of players like to complain but are unwilling to make a sacrifice. Instead they see methods of revenge as being justifiable actions when it isn't.

[Darkwarrior]

Macht I play the game to have fun(right:sweat: ) not spend my game time following a gil seller group all day, might aswell quit:dead:

[pagodaman02]

ROFLROFLROFLROFL Good job. Impressive swindling.

[Macht]

Originally posted by Darkwarrior
Macht I play the game to have fun(right:sweat: ) not spend my game time following a gil seller group all day, might aswell quit:dead:

There's my point in action. Yes the game is to have fun, but you are interacting with others as well. How the hell you expect a legit crafter to get business if the crooked ones, regardless of reasoning behind it, are stealing gear from others.

There is just so much that's negative being promoted in that action, that you are harming positive development and not improving the rate of fun that everyone could have. If I see you complaining about gil sellers and not willing to sacrifice a little time then someone should slap you.

If there really is so many people opposed to gilsellers you should easily be able to get people to be willing to sacrifice at least 1 time out their sessions each week to stop gilsellers. Do you see that happen? I sure don't, simply because no one's willing to make such a sacrifice. So if you aren't willing then you shouldn't be complaining.

EDIT:

The whole logic concept of "Beggers can't be Choosers" comes to mind.