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Old 05-10-2005, 02:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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How the hell you expect a legit crafter to get business if the crooked ones, regardless of reasoning behind it, are stealing gear from others.
Gil sellers are not others, they're gil sellers:spin:

And sacrifice? SE > ban > no gil sellers
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Old 05-10-2005, 02:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Gil sellers are not others, they're gil sellers:spin:

And sacrifice? SE > ban > no gil sellers
They do work at it but like I said gil seller or not that PC still stole from another PC when you get down to it. Two wrongs do not make a right, it just breeds more wrong actions.

Promoting something like this and you'll certainly have other PC attempting to do this also. Eventually one of the PCs that steal from another PC is going to be stealing from one that is playing legit. All this because someone thought it to be right justice to steal from another PC weather they are a gilseller or not.

I personally am glad now I'm not on either of your servers, I would hate to have one of you steal from me because you think I'm a gil seller. It's bad enough I already had one person acusing me of that on the game because I've spent so much time in Maze of Shakrami in my 50s trying to fund myself before finding better methods.
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I think all on this thread that post in favor of the gillseller need to finish leveling to 75, and then go out and try to compete for the same items these guys are monopolizing. i.e. Alk bracelets, Pallas bracelets, Phantom Worm, God triggers, Amemet, Aquarius, etc. . . no one under lvl 70 minimum has a friggin clue about this. So shut- up and go get MPK'd by these guys, call a GM and watch as the GM say's their is nothing they can do, then go to a random game forum and cry because it's so unfair. This is war.
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We had a thread when GSDragoon did somewhat the same thing (promised to help with some AF, got gil and warped). We all know what happened after that...
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This is war.
Even in war there are rules, some you may have to break. If you do have to get your hands dirty you generally want to keep it unknown, not parade it out everywere you can that changes the whole aspect of what you did.

This ends up more like someone wanting attention. Wanting to hear a "alright that's what the little ****** needed". That is endorsement of a negative action and should not be done, not matter what justicifications you can try and rationalize.

Also if you are blind which I don't think you are last I knew stuff that non-75s could hunt were also effected by gilsellers, so it doesn't require lv. 75 to see this occuring. I know it pretty well when I was trying to hunt Argus, still I didn't once think of resorting to an action like this.

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We had a thread when GSDragoon did somewhat the same thing (promised to help with some AF, got gil and warped). We all know what happened after that...
Unfortunate as that is, but when you say "We all know what happened after that... " I do not. Still it sounds like the result was a negative action, and negative isn't gil seller exclusive but as long as you keep promoting negative action that's all you can really expect to see.
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I thought it was hillarious.



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How did the gil seller get a Scorpion Harness signed by your LS mate?



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I'm gonna have to agree with the thread poster here. When gil sellers come to King behemoth and steal and mpk you by claiming him when it goes yellow you pretty much lose all caring for them. Also I noticed as well every one who posted "pro" gilseller is like lv10~55 lol. Probably because this level range makes up 70%+ of the gil buyers on all servers. GG



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Fuck gil-buyers, fuck gil-sellers.



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I know it pretty well when I was trying to hunt Argus
ok but how many mobs down where Argus is can be used to MPK someone. Ok I see that you are a ranger, when the day comes for you to get you a nice pair of Crimson Gauntlets, but your LS is having a really hard time because Gil Sellers are monopolizing the trigger NM's, refer back to this post.
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Not just in the 70s. I was attempted to be MPKed by Logitech (banned now, thank you Valentines Day Massacre) WHen I was leveling with my set in the 50's.....seriously, if my set paryt could take amemet, we would have, because for some reason, the damn mob kept coming unclaimed when their BLM cast sleepga II (would have taken a simple flash) But no, I kept on my merry little way leveling, and guess what the GM did....SQUAT....If you support gilselling, you're supporting the type of lives these people have. They're not going to try and improve themselves by sitting around playing a game to make money. If they don't like their lives, they should go and get REAL jobs. People have called me Ignorant, people have called me racist, but seriously, do you know the types of lives the people have over there? My neighbor moved here from china. She said it's a horrid place. The only way her family could survive was by an illegal trade (not saying anything.) The government has TOTAL control over you, and can kill you if they SUSPECT you of wrongdoing. This goes out to those who think they know what life is like in china. LEARN BEFORE YOU CAST THE STONE AT ME. Seriously, didn't any of you guys see the discovery channel special about the children who ran away from home, and crossed the border to Korea? It's horrible over there. And if you support that, I think you're the one who's ignorant. Don't say anything to me about what you think about the chinese, because I will tell you, it's a lot different than what it appear to be.




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All I'm saying is that gil sellers aren't the only stupid ones, we got stupid players too. Yesterday a LS was fighting king behe and they got it down to a very low % so I heard. And some Taru Thief took the claim and called help -.- so they had to wait for it to regain its health and fight it again. Also heard gill sellers tried to steal it =3. I'm not to found about gill sellers. But I wouldn't scoup down to there level.



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It seems whenever someone posts a success, people show up who just want to bash their accomplishments no matter if it's right or not. They do it because it makes them feel better about themselves because they can say "look at how much better I am than that guy". Then several people jump on the bandwagon and the guy ends up looking like a jerk. Not to mention this is especially the case when the person posting is outside the close-knit network of freinds that act cute and nice and then slit the throats of the outside forum members.

I for one say good job, Ivadell. It may not get rid of them, but it will send a messege that we don't like what's going on.



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I for one say good job, Ivadell. It may not get rid of them, but it will send a messege that we don't like what's going on.
What makes you think that they don't know this already? And what makes you think that they even care?

I'm struggling to understand what actions like this actually achieve apart from a personal sense of peace brought about by vindicating some form of vengeance.
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thats the problem with this game, too many pasifistic pussies.

GMs wont do shit about Gil sellers, we have to take matters into our own hands.

If u have a chance to screw over a gil seller/s DO IT! These Chinese/Japanese pricks need to be stopped.

These people who posted in support of them, write there name down, find them in game, givem hell. Theres no room for whiney little pacifistic nerds who aint had pussy since pussy had them.

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