Haste on Tanks

cidbahamut · 09-23-2009, 10:18 PM

I'm not entirely clear on why Haste on Tanks is so crucial. I keep seeing it touted as an absolute necessity but the reasons behind it are cloudy.

So far I've come up with:
* They hit faster, deal more damage, build more hate
* Reduce recast timers for spell spamage to increase hate and survivability(shadows)

Was there anything else to it?

Thanks for letting me abuse this FAQ forum. Let me know if I need to stop.

Armando · 09-23-2009, 10:23 PM

Pretty much.

It's not just that Haste on the tank make him better at holding hate, it's also that hasting the DDs (which is something you want to do) and NOT the tank makes his life even harder.

TheGrandMom · 09-23-2009, 10:26 PM

Those are some very crucial reasons to cast Haste on tanks. For plds, its also to help get cures off quicker. It's very important to keep haste up on the tank. As a rdm, its a very easy thing to do once you get refresh. Every time you cast refresh on the pld just make sure to haste him too. If you have a nin then every time you cast refresh on yourself make sure to cast on the nin. You'll keep the cycle going with no problem and they'll never pester you for haste again!

cidbahamut · 09-23-2009, 10:34 PM

Alright cool. Just wanted to make sure I understood why it was important. No good to do it without knowing the reason, else you're just a mimic and can't step up your game.

Malacite · 09-23-2009, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGrandMom

For plds, its also to help get cures off more often.

FTFY. "Quicker" is a tad misleading, as Haste doesn't speed up the casting of cures but reduces the recast timers. I know nitpicking here but just thought it prudent :3

Vevau · 09-24-2009, 05:19 AM

Both your initial thoughts are right especially when you notice haste is the most important single star for most melee jobs in most circumstances behind only accuracy.

Faster hits becomes more damage, lower recasts becomes more casts and therefore hate/shadows/damage.

TGM hit the nail on the head with that cycle. It gets more fun when you use Composure and/or remit the tank party of an alliance but once you get used to it your parties will love you.

Oh any DDs who want haste when you are busy or short on Mpoline should be told where to go, if they 'need' it doing just DD they are too weak to be worthwhile.

Evion · 09-24-2009, 05:25 AM

What Armando said is exactly what I would have said.

Elwynn · 09-24-2009, 05:55 AM

Also if the tank is /NIN, it improves recast time for Utsusemi.

Omgwtfbbqkitten · 09-24-2009, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elwynn

Also if the tank is /NIN, it improves recast time for Utsusemi.

It should be noted, however, if they're not tanking, they can take a number and wait their turn.

ShepardG · 09-24-2009, 10:56 AM

I'm pretty sure that hasting tanks alows fast hasting attacks damage used into spell castery.

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Omgwtfbbqkitten · 09-24-2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShepardG

I'm pretty sure that hasting tanks alows fast hasting attacks damage used into spell castery.

swords for left!

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ShepardG · 09-24-2009, 11:06 AM

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09-23-2009, 10:18 PM	#1
cidbahamut Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 269 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 41 Thanked 30x in 26 Posts	Haste on Tanks I'm not entirely clear on why Haste on Tanks is so crucial. I keep seeing it touted as an absolute necessity but the reasons behind it are cloudy. So far I've come up with: * They hit faster, deal more damage, build more hate * Reduce recast timers for spell spamage to increase hate and survivability(shadows) Was there anything else to it? Thanks for letting me abuse this FAQ forum. Let me know if I need to stop. __________________ Server: Midgardsormr Occupation: Reckless Red Mage Name: Drjones

09-23-2009, 10:23 PM	#2
Armando 2300 AD is pretty screwed up Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 5,110 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 707 Thanked 1,631x in 906 Posts My Mood:	Re: Haste on Tanks Pretty much. It's not just that Haste on the tank make him better at holding hate, it's also that hasting the DDs (which is something you want to do) and NOT the tank makes his life even harder. __________________

09-23-2009, 10:34 PM	#4
cidbahamut Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 269 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 41 Thanked 30x in 26 Posts	Re: Haste on Tanks Alright cool. Just wanted to make sure I understood why it was important. No good to do it without knowing the reason, else you're just a mimic and can't step up your game. __________________ Server: Midgardsormr Occupation: Reckless Red Mage Name: Drjones

09-24-2009, 05:19 AM	#6
Vevau Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 34 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 29 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Haste on Tanks Both your initial thoughts are right especially when you notice haste is the most important single star for most melee jobs in most circumstances behind only accuracy. Faster hits becomes more damage, lower recasts becomes more casts and therefore hate/shadows/damage. TGM hit the nail on the head with that cycle. It gets more fun when you use Composure and/or remit the tank party of an alliance but once you get used to it your parties will love you. Oh any DDs who want haste when you are busy or short on Mpoline should be told where to go, if they 'need' it doing just DD they are too weak to be worthwhile.

09-24-2009, 05:25 AM	#7
Evion Finally Back From Lunch Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: May 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 767 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 131 Thanked 43x in 34 Posts My Mood:	Re: Haste on Tanks What Armando said is exactly what I would have said. __________________ Current Server: Asura Current Home Nation: Bastok (Rank 10) Race/Sex: Elvaan/Male Main Job: 75 DRK / 37 SAM,RDM,NIN,WAR,WHM Main Craft: 73 Cloth (Read this at a normal pace...) Tihs Msseage Connat Be Raed By Nromal Huamn Biegns. Pelsae Ntoify Yuor Firedns Taht If Tehy Can Raed Tihs, Taht Tehy Aenr't Namrol...Cnovrresly, Atmpetnig To Raed Tihs Msasege At Nmaorl Pcae And Bineg Albe To, Cna't be Namrol Etiehr...If Yor'ue Albe To Raed Tihs, Tehn Mybae Yur'oe Not Nrmaol.

09-24-2009, 10:56 AM	#10
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09-24-2009, 11:06 AM	#12
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