[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Leveling all jobs
I'm considering leveling all 6 intial jobs to level 10-12 before leaving to the Dunes. I assume that would give me flexibility to farm and change support jobs when I unlock them. I assume that would help me understand how the game works a little better before annoying potential party members. Am I on the wrong path or should I do this?

You might get bored, but it doesn't take long so knock yourself out.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Disable Windows/Home key
There's a link to a tutorial in this old thred but it's broken. How does one disable that?

Don't bother, it's not needed.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Starting at Bastok
I will create a Galka to start in Bastok. How good/bad is the bonus ring? Any tips on spots to get exp or farm nearby? How long does Signet lasts? Any other newbie-friendly money-rewarding activity that I should take?

Who cares about the starting ring. Outside the city is the best place to get EXP. Check the wiki for signet times and for quests in Bastok for making some extra gil.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Any other tip?
In case I forgot about something important.

When in doubt, read the wiki.

[Ellipses]

you might find it more difficult, especially as a Galka, to level all 6 jobs right off the bat like that. You can share gear among many of them (e.g. the bronze harness and leather sets for everything but BLM and WHM), and those early levels are easy. Like you said, it'll give you an idea of gameplay, and you'll have subjobs pre-primed a bit. But you also have the disadvantage of not having a subjob when you're leveling any of them, vs. sticking with one job to 18 and then having a subjob for all the others.

I've no idea about disabling the keys.

The bonus ring is better than nothing. It's all right until the better rings you get at level 10 (INT/MND) or 14 (anything else). Signet lasts your Rank + your nation's place in conquest hours. (So if you're Rank 2 and Bastok is in 3rd, it'd last 5 hours). I don't have anything to add about XP or farming around Bastok that isn't already in 80 billion newbie threads. But you can spam the quest Mom, the Adventurer? for a while to get fame and fire crystals and gil. It's not exactly fast, but it's something.

[Phanex]

I think SE fixed the Home/WIndow key a while back, it no longer works, at least for my 2 PCs. So you shouldn't have to worry about that.

[Aksannyi]

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Leveling all jobs
I'm considering leveling all 6 intial jobs to level 10-12 before leaving to the Dunes. I assume that would give me flexibility to farm and change support jobs when I unlock them. I assume that would help me understand how the game works a little better before annoying potential party members. Am I on the wrong path or should I do this?

This is actually not a bad idea, though I don't know if it's necessary to play all six of them. Maybe the one you plan to level for a while and the subjob you expect to use with it, though you can get a pretty good basic bit of coin just from leveling from 1-10.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Disable Windows/Home key
There's a link to a tutorial in this old thred but it's broken. How does one disable that?

Not really sure about this, I never did it because I never really had any reason to. Are you talking about the one that brings up the Start menu? Doesn't seem to work for me when I'm in fullscreen mode anyway.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Starting at Bastok
I will create a Galka to start in Bastok. How good/bad is the bonus ring? Any tips on spots to get exp or farm nearby? How long does Signet lasts? Any other newbie-friendly money-rewarding activity that I should take?

Bonus ring is decent for the lower levels, but will become obsolete fairly quickly, though it's still nice to have. XP outside the gates, really, that's the easiest place to go.

Signet length formula: Your rank + Your nation's conquest rank.

For example, if you're Rank 2, and Bastok is ranked 1st in conquest, your signet will last 3 hours. If you're rank 10, and Bastok is ranked 2nd in conquest, your signet will last 12 hours. Never changes.

Look into some quests early on, as they will raise fame, which will be very useful when you want to get some other quests unlocked to you. Also, try not to throw anything out, even if you have to run back to town a lot. If something doesn't seem to sell at the AH, you can make a little bit of gil by selling it to an NPC, and there's no waiting involved.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Any other tip?
In case I forgot about something important.

Nothing off the top of my head, honestly, best thing for you to do will be to just get in game and poke around, at which point you might find something else you need answered.

[Durahansolo]

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Well, here I am again with a new batch of questions whose answers I could not find on old thread and to get some opinion. I'm finishing updating the game (still near 340 itens download) and hopefully I'll login and create my character tonight.

Leveling all jobs
I'm considering leveling all 6 intial jobs to level 10-12 before leaving to the Dunes. I assume that would give me flexibility to farm and change support jobs when I unlock them. I assume that would help me understand how the game works a little better before annoying potential party members. Am I on the wrong path or should I do this?

Leveling all jobs to 10 or above is a good idea. During that time if you don't know what job you want to be as your main, you'll most likely find something you like, if not you'll already have the subjob partially leveled so you can unlock the advance jobs at 30. To be able to understand the party mechanics for a job you'd probably have to take it past 10 since 10 is the first level you should be partying at.

If you are planning on farming, take THF to 15 so you will have access to "Treasure Hunter". "Treasure Hunter 1" gives you a slightly better chance to obtain items from mobs. Anybody that tells you that TH1 does nothing, do not pay them any attention and just snicker to yourself as you farm. I had a random THF send me a /tell one day asking for help with one of his Artifact Armor pieces. At the time I was farming bees in Gustaberg as a 74WAR/15THF. I said ok and started heading to his location. When I remembered that I was /THF, I told him I was gonna change sj's and I'd be right there. As I was running to Bastok he mentioned to me "I heard TH1 does nothing for farming or drops." He also refused to listen to reasoning that it actually does work lol.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Starting at Bastok
I will create a Galka to start in Bastok. How good/bad is the bonus ring? Any tips on spots to get exp or farm nearby? How long does Signet lasts? Any other newbie-friendly money-rewarding activity that I should take?

I'm going to assume you mean the "XP Bonus Ring". After you get enough conquest points to get one I recommend either Empress or Emperor bands. Empress is good for people who will probably be soloing or partying with a job every day since you get 6 charges. I find it easier for me to use a Emperor band since I may only party 3-4 days a week, the rest of the week i'm farming or crafting. I think when you do the new NPC Starter quests you get a voucher for your choice of a XP ring, so I recommend doing those.

I think about XP mobs like this, in bastok start in Gustaberg (Outside area of Bastok) and work your way outward toward Valkurm Dunes which you should be in Valkurm @ level 10 for parties. Start with the bees/worms, and work your way up. Depending on the job, some mobs will probably be stronger/weaker, depending on the level of the mob to your level and your stats. Because of that you have to make sure you check mobs before running in "Leeroy Jenkins" style and getting wtfpwnd.

The length signet lasts is based on your rank, and where your nation is in conquest. Looks like Aks listed the formula above .

Farming is always pretty good on gil especially in Bastok. Bastok is the home for the Alchemy, Goldsmithing, and Smithing guilds, so crystals that are fire or water should sell pretty good there, as well as any beehive chips or honey that you get from killing bees. Also whatever nation is in first place will have a higher demand on earth and wind crystals. That is because the nation that is in first has a quiver/toolbag npc. The wind crystals will be used for crafting bolt heads, lumber, and ninja tools, and the earth crystals will be used for bolts and arrows.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Any other tip?
In case I forgot about something important.

If you plan to take up every job to 10 or higher, make sure you take every job you play seriously and don't do any of that "thesis mysub" (aka This is my sub.) which is one of the biggest excuses people run into when asked "Why is your subjob gimped" or "Why are you wearing level 1 armor and you're level 15." Anyways have fun and welcome aboard.

[The Mauva Syndicate]

Good idea, I did the same thing when I first started about this time last year. Leveling the first 6 jobs to 10 also will give you enough of a taste to know where your interests lie.

Plus its not so far in that if you decide you just can't spend the next however many days of your life staring at the back of that enormous head, you can start a new character pretty easily without losing TOO much time investment. And the Galka combat sound is like a walrus sneezing....

The Starting Ring makes a difference - when your total for a score is 4 or 5 at lvl1 and you raise it by one thats a huge difference, at lvl 1 so they are useful, and there are almost no lvl1 rings anyway, so it gives you something.

Do the intro NPC's quests - he will take you through your first 10 levels or so, get you a few gilz and items and I think you even get some Rank out of the whole series. There should be a stickied thread on here somewhere for the whole series of quests the tutorial NPC's give you.

[Susurrus]

Originally Posted by Durahansolo

I had a random THF send me a /tell one day asking for help with one of his Artifact Armor pieces, so I was farming as 74WAR/15THF and he had the nerve to tell me that "I heard TH1 does nothing." and then had the nerve to try to talk to me like he was the best THF in the world. I just laughed to myself when he didnt want to hear me tell him the truth about TH1.

If you were farming together, he was kinda right. Being a THF main he has at least if not higher TH than you, and they don't stack. So your TH1 would be worthless.

[Duncan Idaho]

But that would be only if they were attacking the same mob. I thought I read in a SE interview somewhere that the Treasure Hunter acted like a status effect when the player with Treasure Hunter gets hate from the mob. If I remember correctly then TH1 would help unless the thief came by and put their TH2 on the mob, overwriting the TH1 much like a higher tier spell would do.

[Durahansolo]

Originally Posted by Durahansolo

If you are planning on farming, take THF to 15 so you will have access to "Treasure Hunter". "Treasure Hunter 1" gives you a slightly better chance to obtain items from mobs. Anybody that tells you that TH1 does nothing, do not pay them any attention and just snicker to yourself as you farm. I had a random THF send me a /tell one day asking for help with one of his Artifact Armor pieces. At the time I was farming bees in Gustaberg as a 74WAR/15THF. I said ok and started heading to his location. When I remembered that I was /THF, I told him I was gonna change sj's and I'd be right there. As I was running to Bastok he mentioned to me "I heard TH1 does nothing for farming or drops." He also refused to listen to reasoning that it actually does work lol.

Yeah that was kinda misworded so I fixed it lol. Its hard to type fast and look over your shoulders for the Supervisor at work at the same time.

Originally Posted by Susurrus

If you were farming together, he was kinda right. Being a THF main he has at least if not higher TH than you, and they don't stack. So your TH1 would be worthless.

No we weren't farming together, I didn't know him at all lol, and I don't team farm with other people. I was farming on my own before he sent me the tell for help with his AF gear. I was about to go running to where he was at to fight the mob, but then i realized I was /THF and I said lemme change my SJ right quick. As I was running to Bastok to change to /NIN or /SAM, he made the remark that "I heard TH1 does nothing for farming or drops."

[Haroldo]

And finally last night I managed to login, create my character, familiarize with the controls and explore Port Bastok a little. I set background resolution too low and the game just looked hideous, I could barely tell the names of the NPCs.
Earlier today I managed to fight a little to get some exp and crystals.

Originally Posted by Mhurron

When in doubt, read the wiki.

Thanks. I'm checking it right now for starter quests.

Originally Posted by Ellipses

The bonus ring is better than nothing. It's all right until the better rings you get at level 10 (INT/MND) or 14 (anything else). Signet lasts your Rank + your nation's place in conquest hours. (So if you're Rank 2 and Bastok is in 3rd, it'd last 5 hours). I don't have anything to add about XP or farming around Bastok that isn't already in 80 billion newbie threads. But you can spam the quest Mom, the Adventurer? for a while to get fame and fire crystals and gil. It's not exactly fast, but it's something.

Thanks, I thought It would wear off munch sooner. And I had no idea that I could repeat some quests. I'm checking the wiki for this one.

Originally Posted by Phanex

I think SE fixed the Home/WIndow key a while back, it no longer works, at least for my 2 PCs. So you shouldn't have to worry about that.

Oh, great to know. I've read about this in some old thread and was afraid of getting party mates angry If I accidentally pressed it and disconected. thumbsup:

Originally Posted by Aksannyi

Look into some quests early on, as they will raise fame, which will be very useful when you want to get some other quests unlocked to you. Also, try not to throw anything out, even if you have to run back to town a lot. If something doesn't seem to sell at the AH, you can make a little bit of gil by selling it to an NPC, and there's no waiting involved.

Yeah, I think all do all the quests I'm able to do now before going back to fighting mobs.

Originally Posted by Durahansolo

If you are planning on farming, take THF to 15 so you will have access to "Treasure Hunter". "Treasure Hunter 1" gives you a slightly better chance to obtain items from mobs. Anybody that tells you that TH1 does nothing, do not pay them any attention and just snicker to yourself as you farm.

I'll definitely do that, but later on when I have support job unlocked. Until then, I'll leave it around 10 and just focus on Red Mage. It seems like a very good trait, besides I get Sneak Attack at the same level

Originally Posted by Durahansolo

I think about XP mobs like this, in bastok start in Gustaberg (Outside area of Bastok) and work your way outward toward Valkurm Dunes which you should be in Valkurm @ level 10 for parties. Start with the bees/worms, and work your way up. Depending on the job, some mobs will probably be stronger/weaker, depending on the level of the mob to your level and your stats. Because of that you have to make sure you check mobs before running in "Leeroy Jenkins" style and getting wtfpwnd.

That what I'm doing right now. I roamed the area for 5 minutes afraid of engaging anything and checking mobs. Not that I'd have anything to lose but It would definitely hurt my pride getting knocked on my first fight.

Originally Posted by The Mauva Syndicate

Plus its not so far in that if you decide you just can't spend the next however many days of your life staring at the back of that enormous head, you can start a new character pretty easily without losing TOO much time investment. And the Galka combat sound is like a walrus sneezing....

Hahahahaha. I see what you mean but the only thing I could change in a Galka would be removing the tail. And making them shorter. And with larger beards. Damn, I wish this game had Dwarves


well, thank you for all the help. I'll take my time to play the game a while and learn the ropes.

[pixiehawk]

Leveling the 6 start jobs is always good. I would level the Melee jobs first, then work on the Mage jobs. That will allow you to save gil for the spells you'll have to learn. Also realize that as a galka being a mage will be a little harder to start- I am not saying it's not possible, just a little harder. Be sure to save everything, sell anything stackable in a stack of twelve.

Not sure about the home key ; ;

Free gear is free gear, the ring will help out. I'm not even sure what the Bastok ring does (I'm from Windy) but at level 1 every bit helps. As for what to farm- Once you have couple levels under your belt the saplings are good- grain seeds (at least on my server) sell great and they are right outside in Gustaburg- my mule farms them for my garden, but as I said they sell good. Be sure to get sanction, and crystals are always good too.

When you hit 10+ be sure to camp Leaping Lizzie for her boots- they are great, and can be worn for quite a while. Just remember she's stingy- I killed her over 20 times before I got my boots and I've heard of people who have doubled or tripled that.

Last thing. There are now tutorial NPC's in all the starter cities that give you help when you start out. They give you quests to do that reward you with stuff that will help a new player out. Here is the thread all about them http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/new...haracters.html

[Azazell]

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Leveling all jobs
I'm considering leveling all 6 intial jobs to level 10-12 before leaving to the Dunes. I assume that would give me flexibility to farm and change support jobs when I unlock them. I assume that would help me understand how the game works a little better before annoying potential party members. Am I on the wrong path or should I do this?

I would suggest 18, since you will need them at least as a subjob for a subjob (18/37/75). It depends also on which jobs you wanna level to 75, as you need to have the subs for them at 37. Leveling a job 20+ also gives you a nice insight on a job and it's role in party dynamics.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Disable Windows/Home key
There's a link to a tutorial in this old thred but it's broken. How does one disable that?

Really no idea... why would you do that anyway ? You have a legalized windowed version to tab to i-net to check info when you need pressing the windows key will not pop the windows menu (i could be mistaking, but i am pretty sure i am not )

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Starting at Bastok
I will create a Galka to start in Bastok. How good/bad is the bonus ring? Any tips on spots to get exp or farm nearby? How long does Signet lasts? Any other newbie-friendly money-rewarding activity that I should take?

The bonus ring is ok untill about lvl14 when there are better option. It has a high newbie-factor btw XD. EXP you can get from anything in the neighbourhood, rule of the thumb is: the farther away, the harder the monsters. just check a mob before attacking and you know how hard it is gonna be. Worms are nice for xp and farm ores, which you need for quests or for smithing
Signet duration varies with your nation rank. The higher your rank, the longer it lasts.

Originally Posted by Haroldo

Any other tip?
In case I forgot about something important.

Don't forget to have fun. The first time leveling to 75 is such a nice experience ! Don't miss it. Also try to understand (first hand) how other jobs work. It will surely help you to make nice parties and prevents a lot of misunderstandings

Have fun !

[Ellipses]

Originally Posted by Azazell

Really no idea... why would you do that anyway ? You have a legalized windowed version to tab to i-net to check info when you need pressing the windows key will not pop the windows menu (i could be mistaking, but i am pretty sure i am not )

He was looking at old threads. Way back when, pressing the Windows key would bring up the Start menu, which (without windower, the official one not being available at the time) would crash the game.

[Nuriko]

Another thing that's worth doing is visiting all the guilds and joining them. You get a crystal out of it, and you can be sure that you can level that craft if you come across something that stacks better after synthing. Do the same when you visit the other towns.

[Omecle]

Some really good advice in this thread. I have something different to add though.

You should just go in and play; it'll be the best way to learn. Don't worry if you make mistakes or stuff up. Also, don't get bogged down with leveling a lot of jobs. I've had friends in the past who focused too much on getting a few or more jobs to level 37 instead of actually getting a job further than that. While you can still have fun at those levels, you really don't experience the best stuff this game has to offer. Needless to say, those friends ended up getting far too burnt out and left.

However, leveling the basic jobs to level 10 would be a cool way to see what your play style is, but it shouldn't be the deciding factor as a lot of jobs don't get the fun attributes, abilities and spells until a bit later on.